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PostSubject: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 10:49 am

elektronik fuel injection versus carberatur. yang mana lebih efisen dan lebih berpotensi...

minta pendapat all sioloonerz.... respek
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 10:58 am

Naa ngam betul pertanyaan ko ni bro..
Sy yg tidak tau ni mau jg tau ekeke..
Sila2..
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 11:01 am

ya mari kita kongsi pendapatt.. untuk kebaikan semua... mari mari... mod power
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 11:08 am

So kereta ko pakai enjin apa bro..
EFI ka carb?
Mesti laju full blast mod suda ni kan..
tengok dari ko pya head lamp pun ganas suda
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 11:11 am

carb no limit, efi ada limit dia tapi banyak brg boleh masuk sebab menggunakan ECU Wink
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 11:14 am

Ooo gitu pla tu..
So ada jg sy dingar tu yang remove cut utk EFI tu cmana tu bro?
Ada ka tu atau apa yg sy dengar ni dusta belaka?
Hehehe baru belajar ba ni bro, distributor dgn pula pun sy tidak kanal lagi malu
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 11:39 am

efi mmg best cuma perlu banyak uang. carb cuma tune....

betulkan klu salah.....
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 11:54 am

sonofthipareth wrote:
So kereta ko pakai enjin apa bro..
EFI ka carb?
Mesti laju full blast mod suda ni kan..
tengok dari ko pya head lamp pun ganas suda

standard efi 4g13 n/a jak bos......
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 2:09 pm

EFI: electronic fuel injection, fuel dan air ratio dikawal oleh ECU, dengan electronic. amount air and fuel adalah lebih tepat banding dengan carbie, jadi ianya lebih jimat.

Keburukan: efi maintainance lebih mahal, lagipun lebih susah nak repair. kalau rosak. mahu adjust kena pakai piggyback, ada kereta yang tak perlu piggyback, tapi tune dia tidak banyak boleh tune, disamping tu kos pun mahal


carburator pula dikawal oleh mekanikal, memang tiada limit, senang jaga dan senang cuci, murah lagi.

keburukannya setting lari ataupun susah mahu tepat, dan makan minyak banding dengan ecu.



Untuk racing:
EFI: dapat adjust curve torque and hp di setiap rpm dengan tepat. misalnya kalau dyno, boleh dapatkan curve/graph yang cantik, tidak messy.

CArb: tak dapat adjust, contohnya rpm 3 mungkin lebih kuat daripada rpm 5. curve torque dan hp tak cantik. tapi yang bagus ni tiada limit, boleh blast. biasanya orang mahu laju pakai webber atau solex.
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 4:41 pm

efi nya barang upgrade apa jak ya....
berbeza ka efi ngan carb nya barang upgrade? respek
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 4:44 pm

efi biasanya upgrade. trottle body diameter lebih besar, trottle body ialah butterfly, injector lebih besar cc, adjustable fuel regulator, pasang piggyback ataupun tukar terus ecu.


efi dan carburator memang jauh beza.
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 4:46 pm

carb : ko tekan minyak sampai dinding, dia suntik pun kaw2 ikut kemahuan ko..

efi : smart and electronic..ko tekan, dia pandai budget utk ko..slow sikit if standart

so, dari segi minyak, memang beza...
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 4:50 pm

means kalau kita pkai efi lebih kuat dari carb la kan.... sifu2 boleh kasi tunjuk gambar barang efi yang di upgrade..... untuk tatapan dan ilmu... thanks u all
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 5:07 pm

tukat la...pergi carb la.....
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 5:15 pm

saya rasa nak masuk carb solex.. tpi saya takut salah step.. tu la nak tanya otai otai sekalian yang main 4g13 15...n/a....
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 5:49 pm

motec12 wrote:
saya rasa nak masuk carb solex.. tpi saya takut salah step.. tu la nak tanya otai otai sekalian yang main 4g13 15...n/a....

4G13 15.....N/A

main injin bro mesti mo tengok badan kereta..

wira,putra,iswara sedan: injin 1.6cc -2.0cc yg d sarannkan.

satria,iswara erobik,proton saga:..1.3cc -2.0cc yg d sarankan.

banyak kuasa kuda yg hilang bila injin tak sesuai ngan badan kereta.

jd fikir-kikir kan lah... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 6:00 pm

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saya rasa nak masuk carb solex.. tpi saya takut salah step.. tu la nak tanya otai otai sekalian yang main 4g13 15...n/a....

4G13 15.....N/A

main injin bro mesti mo tengok badan kereta..

wira,putra,iswara sedan: injin 1.6cc -2.0cc yg d sarannkan.

satria,iswara erobik,proton saga:..1.3cc -2.0cc yg d sarankan.

banyak kuasa kuda yg hilang bila injin tak sesuai ngan badan kereta.

jd fikir-kikir kan lah... Very Happy



Thanks Bro..... tapi saya rasa nak main yang rendah dulu... means 4g13 kawen ngan 4g15... kasi hybrid dia..... boleh ka tu
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 6:05 pm

carb msuk solex pun kuat juga....mnyak pun kuat. tukar piston,larik blok,port&polish,perdana clutch set.....setting ngam.....kaw2x juga tu. try la.....

bro nieto....piggyback tu apa ya?? boleh ex. gambar ka?? tnx
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 6:19 pm

EFI jimat minyak? tidak pasti ohh boss..sy jalan lurus tetap gerakan dlm 160KM tu hari mcm telan 3 bar minyak oh full padel tu the floor..itu blum rev cut lagi tu...ahaks! rm50 full tank melimpah2 kluar tu tank satu hari dari 8 bar pegi 3 bar X_X
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 6:51 pm

hehehe mmg lah..ko tekan hbs smpai 160kmh..tp, ko pnya dvvt ptt save mnyak danix..huhu
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 7:04 pm

motec12 wrote:
bbr 193 wrote:
motec12 wrote:
saya rasa nak masuk carb solex.. tpi saya takut salah step.. tu la nak tanya otai otai sekalian yang main 4g13 15...n/a....

4G13 15.....N/A

main injin bro mesti mo tengok badan kereta..

wira,putra,iswara sedan: injin 1.6cc -2.0cc yg d sarannkan.

satria,iswara erobik,proton saga:..1.3cc -2.0cc yg d sarankan.

banyak kuasa kuda yg hilang bila injin tak sesuai ngan badan kereta.

jd fikir-kikir kan lah... Very Happy



Thanks Bro..... tapi saya rasa nak main yang rendah dulu... means 4g13 kawen ngan 4g15... kasi hybrid dia..... boleh ka tu

bole bah Very Happy tp, ko akn rugi satu hari nanti, sbb bg aku lagi best tukar enjin...tp, kalau mo juga utk rasa kepussan hehe.. blok 4g15 korek² smpi boleh masuk piston 1.6 yg hi compression..kna cek spec kreta 1.6cc pnya enjin yg compression ratio dia tggi..carb pakai weber..solex ssh mo dpt..kalau weber byk bdk² 4g13/15 jual sma skali manifold nda kira dcnf atau dcoe..tggl plug n play jak..carb ni best..cut² smua di kaki anda..hehehe..tp, kna igt tune tu ssh..klu pandai tune ok..jd, mcm mna mo tune carb, tpksa la beli tu meter a/f ratio, vaccum ka atau ext temp..meter² ni boleh bantu kita setting..ni bg aku lah..huhuhu malu
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 7:26 pm

Ooo gitu pla tu..So katala kan enjin 1.3 carburator korek abis lawan 1.6 EFI pun mod berabis kalau main long distance agak2 mana yg depan tu ah?
Tanya jak bro, jgn tersinggung ah..


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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 7:36 pm

hehehe..aku pun nda tu tau..aku rasa msti lah 1.6cc efi tu di depan..cc besar..mod hbs lagi.. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 7:42 pm

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hehehe..aku pun nda tu tau..aku rasa msti lah 1.6cc efi tu di depan..cc besar..mod hbs lagi.. Very Happy

Hehehe sy pun rasa gitu bro..
Mana tau ada idea lain? X off topic ba ni kan?
Masi lg EFI vs Carb jg ekeke
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PostSubject: Re: efi vs carb   efi vs carb Icon_minitime27/4/2009, 7:49 pm

hehehe..bagi aku efi lagi best..aku ska tu mangement system..boleh pakai piggyback management atau trus tukar standalone..sgala cut² speed/rev/fuel boleh di buang dgn tmbahan brg performance aftermarket..
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