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PostSubject: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime11/1/2013, 1:17 am

apa beza dua injin ni...aq tngok macam sma jak..
lgi 1 L2 carb trbo ni mmang wjud ka??
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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime11/1/2013, 7:43 am

Suatu masa dahulu sya ada copy ini dari forum (sya pun tidak tau forum mana satu).Credit for the original writer and the forum that i took it from.

I'm just about to pay for one! They're 659cc with turbo and intercooler, officially rated at 64ps (Japan's equivalent of bhp, about 62-63hp) to get into the Kei class (low tax band) of cars. But realistically they are meant to have something like 75-80hp from stock, the sports Keis have been fiddling the figures for years. They are much faster than the 1.0 Cuores, the 1.0L engine is used here I think because proper 660cc Kei engines are expensive to produce and we don't have a special 660cc tax band. The models go as so:

Classic: 3 Cylinder EF-RL, 4WD (5 door L512S with cool retro styling, super rare)
TR-XX: 3 Cylinder EF-RL, FWD (3 door L502S)
TR-XX R: 4 Cylinder JB-JL, FWD (3 door L502S)
TR-XX R4: 4 Cylinder JB-JL, 4WD (3 door L512S)

EF-RL is more torquey but I think JB-JL is a bit faster! Both rated at 64ps, I'd imagine the JB-JL has a slight bit more power (in their true output, not the factory fiddled ones). The chassis code is based on whether they have 4WD or not, L502S is FWD, L512S is 4WD. Avanzato I think means the sports interior with the cheesy seats, TR-XX I've no idea but it makes for a nice sticker above the sideskirt. Most UK models have the standard Cuore bumpers which look stupid as they sit higher than the low sideskirt they added to it. I think they did Cuore bumpers at first then changed later to sporty Mira ones? Also could be that the nicer bumpers were an option? Mine has got the boring ones but they'll be getting changed.

Anyone else know anything?
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some technical part about L5

L500s(EF-CL) - 659cc 6v sohc 40ps/6.5Krpm 5.3kg-m/3.5Krpm NA
L500s(EF-KL) - 659cc 6v sohc 42ps/6Krpm 5.4kg-m/4Krpm NA
L500s(EF-FL) - 659cc 6v sohc 40ps/6.3Krpm 5.3kg-m/3.5Krpm NA
L500s(EF-JL) - 659cc 12v sohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 9.4kg-m/4Krpm turbo
L500s(EF-GL) - 659cc 12v dohc 52ps/7.2Krpm 5.8kg-m/4Krpm NA
L510s/510v(EF-ZL) - 659cc 12v dohc 55ps/7.5Krpm 6.2kg-m/4Krpm 4WD NA
L500s(EF-RL) - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.8Krpm 10.7kg-m/4Krpm turbo
L502s(JB-EL) - 659cc 16v dohc 58ps/7.6Krpm 5.8kg-m/5.6Krpm turbo
L502s(JB-JL) - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 10.2kg-m/4Krpm turbo
L512s(JB-JL) - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 10.2kg-m/4Krpm 4WD turbo
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bace untuk menambah pengetahuan
ade notes meh post sini

Mari mengenali geng MIRA .Haku dapat dari keiconcept.net ...

Local (Perodua Malaysia) production engine
EF-CL 659cc 6valve sohc 31ps/6400rpm 5kg-m/3200rpm

Japanese (Daihatsu Japan) production engine
EF-CL 659cc 6valve sohc 40ps/6500rpm 5.3kg-m/3500rpm

Make: Daihatsu Mira (aka Perodua Kancil)
L55,55v,56v(AB) - 547cc 4v 29ps/6Krpm 4kg-m/3.5Krpm turbo/NA
L70s,70v(EB) - 547cc 6v sohc 34ps/6Krpm 4.5kg-m/3.5Krpm turbo
L71v(EB) - 547cc 6v sohc 52ps/6.5Krpm 7.1kg-m/4Krpm 4WD turbo/NA

L200(EF-CL) - 659cc 6v sohc 40ps/6.5Krpm 5.3kg-m/3.5Krpm NA
L210s,210v(EF-HL) - 659cc 12v sohc 50ps/7.5Krpm 5.3kg-m/4.5Krpm 4WD turbo
L200(EF-XL) - 659cc 6v sohc 61ps/7Krpm 8.6kg-m/4.5Krpm turbo
L200(EF-KL) - 659cc 6v sohc 42ps/6Krpm 5.4kg-m/4Krpm NA
L200(EF-FL) - 659cc 6v sohc 40ps/6.3Krpm 5.3kg-m/3.5Krpm NA
L200,200s(EF-JL) - 659cc 12v sohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 9.4kg-m/4Krpm turbo

L500s(EF-CL) - 659cc 6v sohc 40ps/6.5Krpm 5.3kg-m/3.5Krpm NA
L500s(EF-KL) - 659cc 6v sohc 42ps/6Krpm 5.4kg-m/4Krpm NA
L500s(EF-FL) - 659cc 6v sohc 40ps/6.3Krpm 5.3kg-m/3.5Krpm NA
L500s(EF-JL) - 659cc 12v sohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 9.4kg-m/4Krpm turbo
L500s(EF-GL) - 659cc 12v dohc 52ps/7.2Krpm 5.8kg-m/4Krpm NA
L510s/510v(EF-ZL) - 659cc 12v dohc 55ps/7.5Krpm 6.2kg-m/4Krpm 4WD NA
L500s(EF-RL) - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.8Krpm 10.7kg-m/4Krpm turbo
L502s(JB-EL) - 659cc 16v dohc 58ps/7.6Krpm 5.8kg-m/5.6Krpm turbo
L502s(JB-JL) - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 10.2kg-m/4Krpm turbo
L512s(JB-JL) - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 10.2kg-m/4Krpm 4WD turbo

Engine type:
AB - 2 cylinders
EF - 3 cylinders
JB - 4 cylinders

Make: Daihatsu Coure (aka Perodua Kelisa)
L250(EF-SE) - 659cc 6v sohc 46ps/6.4Krpm 5.6kg-m/3.6Krpm NA
L250(EF-VE) DVVT - 659cc 12v dohc 58ps/7.6Krpm 6.5kg-m/4Krpm NA
L250(EF-DET) M/C before - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.9kg-m/3.6Krpm turbo
L250(EF-DET) M/C after - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.4kg-m/3.2Krpm turbo
L250(EF-VD) - 659cc 12v dohc 60ps/7.5Krpm 6.6kg-m/4Krpm NA
L700s(EF-SE) - 659cc 6v sohc 46ps/6.4Krpm 5.6kg-m/3.6Krpm NA
L700s/710s(EF-VE) DVVT - 659cc 12v dohc 58ps/7.6Krpm 6.5kg-m/4Krpm NA
L700s/710s(EF-DET) M/C before - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.9kg-m/3.6Krpm turbo
L700s/710v(EF-DET) M/C after - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.4kg-m/3.2Krpm turbo

Make: Daihatsu Move (aka Perodua Kenari)
L150(EF-SE) - 659cc 6v sohc 46ps/6.4Krpm 5.6kg-m/3.6Krpm NA
L150(EF-VE) DVVT - 659cc 12v dohc 58ps/7.6Krpm 6.5kg-m/4Krpm NA
L150(EF-DET) M/C before - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.9kg-m/3.6Krpm turbo
L150(EF-DET) M/C after - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.4kg-m/3.2Krpm turbo
L150(JB-DET) - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/6Krpm 10.2kg-m/3.5Krpm turbo
L600s(EF-GL) - 659cc 12v dohc 52ps/7.2Krpm 5.8kg-m/4Krpm NA
L600s(EF-ZL) - 659cc 12v dohc 55ps/7.5Krpm 6.2kg-m/4Krpm NA
L600s(EF-RL) - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.8Krpm 10.7kg-m/4Krpm NA
L602s(JB-JL) - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/7.5Krpm 10.2kg-m/4Krpm turbo
L610s(EF-RL) - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.8Krpm 10.7kg-m/4Krpm 4WD NA
L900s(EF-SE) - 659cc 6v sohc 46ps/6.4Krpm 5.6kg-m/3.6Krpm NA
L900s,910s(EF-VE) DVVT - 659cc 12v dohc 58ps/7.6Krpm 6.5kg-m/4Krpm NA
L910s(EF-DET) M/C before - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.9kg-m/3.6Krpm turbo
L910s(EF-DET) M/C after - 659cc 12v dohc 64ps/6.4Krpm 10.4kg-m/3.2Krpm turbo
L902s(JB-DET) M/C before - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/6Krpm 10.9kg-m/3.2Krpm turbo
L902s(JB-DET) M/C after - 659cc 16v dohc 64ps/6Krpm 10.2kg-m/3.5Krpm turbo

Engine type:
AB - 2 cylinders
EF - 3 cylinders
JB - 4 cylinders

SOHC - Single Over Head Cam
DOHC - Double Over Head Cam
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sorang dah tuang pasal Mira, oke skrg aku lak nak tuang pasal mira lagi ahaks.

Perbezaan L200 dengan L200s(panduan membeli halfcut sblom ditipu)

BlowOff Standard, L200 takde mana kala L200s ada selepas intercooler ada macam batang pipe leading to behind of intercooler unit.
Meter, L200 Grey Color with Turbine Warning Lamp is in RPM cluster, while L200s is white in color n turbine warning lamp is above fuel/temp meter cluster.
Steering,L200 is without power steering and L200s is come with power steering.
Brake Disc,L200 disc can use 12" wheel while L200s disc cant use 12" wheel,must use 13"wheel notice:maybe some earlier batch of L200s still using 12" wheel.but the price for L200s brake pads is much more expensive compare to L200.
Plug Cable,L200 come with Bigger MM plug cable,while L200s plug cable is almost the same with perodua's stock cable,thin.



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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime11/1/2013, 8:33 am

yg comment paling bawah tu x betul sgt bro..tapi blh la buat sbg general reference..

sbb nya ada model L200s yg xda blowoff, meter grey, xda power steering, guna 12" wheel, plug cable besar..

knp aku ckp macam ni sbb aku memiliki hafcut yg sedemikian rupa haha..dilengkapi dgn manual LSD gearbox, ventilated disc brake, n ada ABS
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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime11/1/2013, 10:18 am

oh.ty fummin,sya copy paste jak tu.
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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime11/1/2013, 11:05 am

mmg bgs jg info tu..d web ada lg yg lbh detail klu kita search guna code yg d nameplate body frame halfcut
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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime12/1/2013, 4:20 am

sya ada tngok ni di wikipedia mira...

SOHC 6V carb Turbo-Mira L200V

xpena dgr pula...
hehehe
pelik btul jgk ciptaan jepun ni...
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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime24/1/2013, 1:39 am

kebah wrote:
sya ada tngok ni di wikipedia mira...

SOHC 6V carb Turbo-Mira L200V

xpena dgr pula...
hehehe
pelik btul jgk ciptaan jepun ni...
L2 carb turbo mmg wujud. tp rare sgt kat malaysia. sa pnah pakai carburetor turbo L2 utk BOT d kancil. xdak problem ape pn. kalau di enjin standard L2 turbo, karburetor ni bleh support up to 1bar. plus, piston L2 karb turbo amat rare. piston ni harga market lbh krg rm900 (piston shj). ni sb piston L2 karb turbo bleh support 3bar++ Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime27/1/2013, 1:39 am

aq ada jmpa piston carb trbo ni kat tmpat aq...
xda clar,,mci ok la...
hrga rm300(kira nasib mnyebelahi la) hehehe...
plan nak pkai,,tpi ada kwn ckap klo boost 1.5 keats gearbox L2 xdpt thn...
btul ka??
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PostSubject: Re: Beza L200s n TR-XX   Beza L200s n TR-XX Icon_minitime27/1/2013, 11:44 pm

ini pengalaman sy la..boost 2.0 yg bt gearbox xtahan..tp boost cm mn pn..kalau salu blast knfm xtahan..
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