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PostSubject: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime12/5/2009, 8:07 am

nak tanya rakan2 kat sini pemasangan pre amp selain dari kita dapat kawal tinggi rendah bunyi, apakah lagi fungsinya. Adakah pre amp juga dapat membantu menaikkan kualiti bunyi seperti amplifier? apa bezanya kalau kita hanya pasang power amp beserta speaker dan sub woofer tapi x pasang pre amp?

Harap ada yg membantu..
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime12/5/2009, 11:46 am

pre amp ni memang befungsi untuk proses bunyi jdi lebih berkuality.sound dari player lebih bersih smpai d amp, so bunyi lebih clear.mksudnya kita boleh adjust frequency bunyi.pa mksud tinggi rendah?kuat atau perlahankan bunyi?klo yg 2, dari player pn suda bole adjust...hehe lgi 1, dngn preamp, kita ada lebih bnyak preout RCA.ada tuk sub,mid depan, blakang.

tpi klo dah beli player arga ribu2 tue, biasanya equaliser nya pn dah berband2.dn ada at least 3 preout build in.so pre amp mcm ta berfungsi la suda.bek crossover.

cuba try brows, ada bnyak topic psal ni da d buka.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime13/5/2009, 6:46 am

ok, dari sq tidak direkomen main preamp, kecuali yg mahal hi end punya. Sq preamp cap ayam memang teruk. Aku pun pernah cuba preamp cap ayam. Tak sampai 3 bulan, keluar bunyi kapal terbang. Fungsi dia tu untuk menambah jumlah rca saja. Bukan untuk meningkat sq kecuali yg hi end.
Kalau dari segi spl, tak kisah la asal bunyi jelas dan kuat.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime13/5/2009, 7:26 am

jgn cepat pandang rendah terhadap pre amp cap ayam..kadang2 pkai brand cap ayam jak pun boleh dapat tmpat dlm competition jga..hihi..

pre amp nie fungsinya seperti yg lain ckp untuk adjuct bunyi bass atau mid dgn lebih cantik lg..sbb kalau kt amp jak xkn dpt bunyi bass yg d ingnkn.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime13/5/2009, 8:57 am

Sori geng nak tanya satu soalan bodoh... hehe.. apa tu sq dan spl? saya baru ja ceburi bidang audio ni.. tak tahu apa2 sangat pun.. jangan marahh
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime13/5/2009, 2:37 pm

alalala..
ko tggu ja otai2 jwb tuk ko...
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime13/5/2009, 4:27 pm

alamak.. ni yang suspen ni.. cakap le... hehehe.. aku ni pakar dalam bidang elektrikal je bukan dalam audio... heheh jangan marah no..
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime13/5/2009, 7:13 pm

adidih...SQ sound quality, SPL sound pressure level.
under18 kn taiko sound...cap ayam pn bleh up bah What a Face

tpi kn klo org main SQ selalunya org ta pkai preamp.pkai player yg dasyat2 ckup.direct trus p crossover, amp...
btul juga 2, preamp pndai ada bunyi kapal (2 pn bergntng dngn wiring).tpi selalunya cap ayam pndai ada bunyi 2 la.klo main spl no prob la...janji kuat bah Very Happy

btw bro, suma 2 term2 kn ada d sekitar2 topic ni...hehe sini ada: here
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime13/5/2009, 8:50 pm

hustle wrote:
alalala..
ko tggu ja otai2 jwb tuk ko...

pura2 lagi otai sorang nie..hihi..bha bila balik KB..rindu uda nie mau stay perdana..hahahaha..
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime14/5/2009, 3:17 am

SQ(Sound Quality), dengar musik secara 'enjoy', :p bunyi yang cantik dan manis, terpulang kepada kesukaan masing masing, style apa yang lebih sesuai untuknya. macam ada yang suka dengar vocal, suka pasang equipment yg berbunyi warm and laid back. ada yang suka macam concert, itu mau tengok tuning dan placing speaker dan equipment yang berkualiti. ada banyak jenis lagi.

SPL(Sound Pressure Level), macam gempa bumi tu... biar semua orang dengar. the more the merrier.

aku jenis yg main SQ. boleh check aku punya signature 'sound of DLS TA2'. bukan system ku, cuma saya cuba amp aku di kereta kawanku.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime14/5/2009, 2:07 pm

oh.. ok ok.. tenkiu my pren.. nampak sangat aku ni jahil bab audio.. hehehe..
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime16/5/2009, 7:11 pm

ckmoy007 wrote:
SQ(Sound Quality), dengar musik secara 'enjoy', :p bunyi yang cantik dan manis, terpulang kepada kesukaan masing masing, style apa yang lebih sesuai untuknya. macam ada yang suka dengar vocal, suka pasang equipment yg berbunyi warm and laid back. ada yang suka macam concert, itu mau tengok tuning dan placing speaker dan equipment yang berkualiti. ada banyak jenis lagi.

SPL(Sound Pressure Level), macam gempa bumi tu... biar semua orang dengar. the more the merrier.

aku jenis yg main SQ. boleh check aku punya signature 'sound of DLS TA2'. bukan system ku, cuma saya cuba amp aku di kereta kawanku.

promote btl SQ 2..hihi.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime16/5/2009, 8:51 pm

promote sikit sikit saja ba tu... hehe. :p
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime17/5/2009, 11:38 pm

Actually bagi i le kan..utk men spl pun kena guna preamp yg bagus jugak bha..kalu x bunyi bass pandai rusak tue..sesetengah org pakai preamp tuk adjust frekuensi bass tue..lebih kurang x over juga..tapi dari 9 band tue..2 jak yg diguna..yg area 50hz n 125hz..tapi kalu dah boley set dari player lagi baik x paya preamp..
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime18/5/2009, 2:08 am

xover itu xover, tak sama dengan EQ atau preamp.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime18/5/2009, 10:35 am

fungsi crossover tuk pilih/bahagi signal n antar pada speaker or tweeter..tapi i said ade juga org pakai fungsi mid pada preamp tuk subwoofer terutama tuk yg men roadshow..kdg2 kalu guna player cikai kitaorang guna preamp jak tuk boost atau cutoff certain subwoofer frekuensi..lebih kurang sama ngan e xover..so time main, crossover pada monoblok atau exover tak perlu adjust tuk kasi ngam sama lagu..fungsi xover diambil dari preamp..tengok keadaan yg mane ngam..i nampak menan sq cam byk ikut aturan supaya cun bunyi..tp kalu men spl terutama jenis external..ade tips2 tertentu yg kdg2 nampak pelik juga..tujuan men begini selalu psl lebih berkesan, mudah n jimat kos..besalah menan barang murahan je.. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime18/5/2009, 9:52 pm

faham... different style of game. sebab di europe, memang style dia juga mcm SQ tu, tapi setting dan equipment lain saja.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime19/5/2009, 4:23 pm

so klu gini mo pakai preamp yang hi end pya la ni kan... tapi berbanding preamp dan elec xover... sa lagi berminat dgn elec xover... hehe... suara jelas n terang..
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime19/5/2009, 8:18 pm

so mksudnya 2 preamp tuk woofer sja la?tuk tapis bunyi2 tertentu?so mid 1 preamp lagi?
klo adjust d amp?tpi amp ta g2 bnyak pilihan kn.da trus adjust 1 range bunyi.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime19/5/2009, 8:26 pm

jangan tersalah faham. pre amp yg dia cakap tu macam equalizer. boleh boost atau kurangkan dB frequency yg tertentu. yg crossover tu tapis dan bahagi frequency tertentu pergi ke speaker yg tertentu. preamp actually means something before the amplifier. in a way, electronic crossover is oso counted as a pre-amp.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime20/5/2009, 8:50 am

kurang kan db frekuensi???? nda jelas la bro

bukan hertz ka tu frekuensi?
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PostSubject: Re: Pre amp   Pre amp Icon_minitime20/5/2009, 10:38 am

rickengineering wrote:
so klu gini mo pakai preamp yang hi end pya la ni kan... tapi berbanding preamp dan elec xover... sa lagi berminat dgn elec xover... hehe... suara jelas n terang..
kalu SPL aku rs xover yg bgs... kalu men SQ preamp la... tp xover sndstream da mcm mixer...
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kurang kan db frekuensi???? nda jelas la bro

bukan hertz ka tu frekuensi?
dB itu loudness, Hz = frequency. macam vocal tu di sekitar 1k-3kHz(frequency), kalau kurang kan dB frequency tu, then vocal dia tak akan bright sangat.
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kalu SPL aku rs xover yg bgs... kalu men SQ preamp la... tp xover sndstream da mcm mixer...
tak tengok SPL atau SQ, kedua-duanya fungsi lain. yengok kamu perlukan fundsi apa. kalau tiada x-over, speaker mugkin rosak kalau main active, dan sound stage tak boleh dicapai. pre-amp/equalizer tu boleh tune bunyi nya. tapi kalau tuning tak bagus akan rosakkan SQ tu.
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hustle wrote:

kalu SPL aku rs xover yg bgs... kalu men SQ preamp la... tp xover sndstream da mcm mixer...
tak tengok SPL atau SQ, kedua-duanya fungsi lain. yengok kamu perlukan fundsi apa. kalau tiada x-over, speaker mugkin rosak kalau main active, dan sound stage tak boleh dicapai. pre-amp/equalizer tu boleh tune bunyi nya. tapi kalau tuning tak bagus akan rosakkan SQ tu.
aku ni men kg ja ba... tu la yg aku dgr2 dr taiko snd terutama c under18..
pakar dia tu cam ko jg... Cool
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