elow kawan2 sioloon...

saya baru mau
jinak2 sama sound... bah kamu orang tolong la apa2 yang patut.. ada
sudah la sikit2 barang2 saya pasang dalam kereta saya.. tapi belom
meletop lagik.. tidak la mau meletop macam autoshow atau sound blaster
tuh... meletop2 sikit2 tarap kampung2 pun ok la tu.. sendiri2 jak yg
mau dengar..

saya pakai kancil belalang..
yg sudah saya pasang:

1) head unit Kenwood
2) speker component mohawk 5 inci
3) speker 3 ways kickers

bah
siapa bleh tulun2 tu... kasik tau apa barang lagik mau tambah kasik
cukup dia meletop2 sikit2... klu ada diagram tuk pasang lagi bagus..
saya mau juga try2 buat sendiri.. mau belaja2 juga bah... tidak la
balik2 mau pi kedai minta pasang...

bah... ajar2 la saya aaa...~

p/s : sempat la juga saya pi tgk sound blaster sioloon dulu tu... syok bah.. mantap!

mau meletop letop, tambahlah monoblock sama 2 biji subwoofer la.

monoblock tu amp utk woofer kan? preamp? amp tuk 3ways tu pula macam mana?
aduinaa sian bah saya baru mo kenal2...

nah...ko tambah ja woofer satu sama preamp pun sudah cukup..speaker standard pun begagar juga tu nombor plate, wakkaa..sa begitu saja,..

fithanminded wrote:

nah...ko tambah ja woofer satu sama preamp pun sudah cukup..speaker standard pun begagar juga tu nombor plate, wakkaa..sa begitu saja,..

tia payah pakai amp ka? uinaa...hebat tuh...

saya masih konpius ni... 2 channel..? 4 channel..? monoblock..? siapa bleh tulun terangkan tu aaa...~

untuk woofer mmg mesti tambah amp. monoblock maksud amp 1 channel saja. channel ni maksud berapa keluar. macam amp 4 channel ada 4 keluar pergi 4 speaker. kalau ko belum beli woofer aku mau jual aku punya woofer sama box. tengok kalau ko berminat.

bro ko selangor d mna..? skng ko dah pasang apa dlam kerita..?

putra_sky wrote:

bro ko selangor d mna..? skng ko dah pasang apa dlam kerita..?

sini nah saya d puchong .. ko d kajang ka? macam hampir sudah tu tau... yg baru saya pasang dalam kerita kecil saya ni head unit kenwood, component mohawk n 3 ways kickers. aduinah rujak2... semua beli kutip2 dari kawan2..kekeke.. tidak mampu saya mo beli yg baru...

ckmoy007 wrote:

untuk woofer mmg mesti tambah amp. monoblock maksud amp 1 channel saja. channel ni maksud berapa keluar. macam amp 4 channel ada 4 keluar pergi 4 speaker. kalau ko belum beli woofer aku mau jual aku punya woofer sama box. tengok kalau ko berminat.

cuba ko komen2 dulu saya punya pahaman ni.. ngam ka tia ngam.. ni yg ada dalam kepala saya skrg... klu tia ngam ko kasik betul la aa ckmoy007

Head unit -->preamp --> amp 4ch --> 3ways + component
--> amp monoblock --> woofer

ngam ka itu? aduina... mo buat diagram pun saya tia tau ni.. kekekeke...
klu tia ngam ajar2 la saya...

player/changer:
Clarion DRX 9255, CDC 635

amp:
MTX Thunder 4244 (4 channel), 81000D (monoblock)

speaker:
Kicker Resolution RS5, RS6

subwoofer:
Eclipse 88120.4

wow... tenkiu byk2 ckmoy007 ... cuba ko suggestkan berapa watt yg ok tuk dlm kancil ni... tia makan bateri ka itu? brapa watt yg cun2 bunyi sadap2 klu pakai 1 bateri ja?

ngam la 2 bro...macam 2 la 2
macam diagram yg bro ckmoy bagi 2 lagi clear.
ada amp smpai 5 channel mksudnya da bleh kasi suply suma mid, component n woofer.tpi klo main 4 chnl pn ok juga la tpi kena la ada amp 1 lgi untuk woofer...tdk semestinya monoblock sja bleh kasi pakai main woofer...yg pnting amp 2 bleh support RMS (watt) tu woofer.2 chnl amp pn buli...tapi sebaiknya pkai monoblock la sbab dia ada function control bass yg lebih bagus.

klo ko pnya HU suda ada smpai 3 preout, ta perlu preamp pn buli suda 2.klo HU cuma ada 1 preout terpksa la preamp spaya snang skit tune...tpi mksure bli yg ok skit pnya preamp la...klo tdk nanti nda puas hati pula...hehe preamp 2 nombor dua HU 2...so penting la tugasnya.

brapa watt 2 brgntung la dngn tlinga sndiri...hehe klo sa, 360watt peak (180 watt rms) suda cukup.1 biji sja DVC single magnet mohawk classic.brand lama.skrg suda tukar nama...hehe klo mo kasi letup2 pn buli juga...sakit tlinga sndiri sja la...hehe klo blast berabis 1 biji woofer ni pn bleh drop letrik juga...bleh perasan 2 lmpu malap2 rpm turun2 sikit...so klo macam 2 tmbah power cap buli suda ba..tpi klo nda paya pn buli juga...BLM kwn sa pasang 2 biji woofer 1000watt 1 biji pn ok ja 2...teda mslh...jn la ko kasi blast time engine off...klo engine idle pn tdk brapa d syorkan..kena tekan sikit 2 minyak...hehe...tdk juga cpt habis battry 2 bro...dun worry...

ooo...tenkiu byk2 finalazy84 .... klu amp n woofer brand kenwood ok juga ka?
woofer saiz 12" ngam di bonet kancil ka itu? takut tidak muat jak nanti dgn box dia..

klo psal brand, bro ckmoy 2 yg tau bnyak. klo ko bikin ported box memang besar la...ndatau pula muat ka tdk...klo sealed box nipis la tpi tdk la smpai d luar pn dngar...hehe
bro ko mo men SQ ka ni?tau SPL? klo brand kenwood 2 sa rsa memang ok la 2. tpi slalunya brgntung juga model apa la...hehe bgus tnggu dlu la pa comment ckmoy. mnatau ada brand lain bleh dpt dngn arga kenwood 2 kn.pioneer pnya amp pn ada yg best2 juga.4 channel la.monoblock sa ndatau pa yg bagus...sa masi guna 2 chanel...hehe

finalazy, janganla angkat aku macam tu. hehe. aku pun masih belajar, tak expert. kebanyakan brand yg aku kenal semua yg terkenal di bidang SQ car audio. dan mmg tak murah tu. dari kata bro easternwind, bajet dia sikit saja dan mau SPL sebab mao meletop sana, hehe. so mmg aku tak expert di bajet ni, aku hanya memberi pendapat aku sahaja. pasal brand di bajet rendah tu, semua cap ayam la, ada mohawk, ameron, pegasus, audio specialist, shuttle lab, auXdio dan lain lain. berapa watt tu, jangan tertipu dengan max watt yg tertulis di kebanyakan amp cap ayam, ada yg mencacah 10000watt, tapi sebenarnya hanya 2x100w rms saja. mau tengok watt rms saja, rms ni maksud watt yg constant dikeluarkan oleh amp.

tpi at least bnyak tau psal sound juga kn...hehe

ya slalu 2 dorg jarang letak RMS.suma peak sja.klo tnya penjual 2 kadang dorg temberang sja 2...sebab bukn ada tulis...kenwood bukn kira branded juga ka 2?

kenwood player ok la, yg lain kurang sikit.

easternWind wrote:

fithanminded wrote:

nah...ko tambah ja woofer satu sama preamp pun sudah cukup..speaker standard pun begagar juga tu nombor plate, wakkaa..sa begitu saja,..

tia payah pakai amp ka? uinaa...hebat tuh...

saya masih konpius ni... 2 channel..? 4 channel..? monoblock..? siapa bleh tulun terangkan tu aaa...~

hehe..amp misti pki ba...supaya begagar, saya pun bulum pakar mo belajar juga...tuh ari, kadai yg psg.. saya pilih saja yg 'ayambrand' pnya,
huhu...boleh la, kampungan punya level..yg penting jantung berdegup kencang...
apapun, "tingu bajet, tingu brand, pasang dan enjoy..."..

easternWind wrote:

putra_sky wrote:

bro ko selangor d mna..? skng ko dah pasang apa dlam kerita..?

sini nah saya d puchong .. ko d kajang ka? macam hampir sudah tu tau... yg baru saya pasang dalam kerita kecil saya ni head unit kenwood, component mohawk n 3 ways kickers. aduinah rujak2... semua beli kutip2 dari kawan2..kekeke.. tidak mampu saya mo beli yg baru...

bleh kita jumpa2 neyh... ko tnya2 king2 shah alam skatanix ngan basshunterex.. keter dorang neyh melatop2 sound.. eheee...

basshunterex tu cikgu ka? klu cikgu macam aku kenal la itu org.. tapi jarang2 aku jumpa la... kamu ni yg di selangor ni rata2 geng2 cikgu ka?

ckmoy007... klu amp brand pioneer ok ka? ka ko ada suggestion yg brand yg lain?

brapa budget ko untuk amp bro?2 component dngn mid ko brapa watt rms? cari yg dlm 2 range power la...jn under power.

sa beli yg ni


60 Watts x 4, at 4 ohms
150 Watts x 2, at 4 ohms BRIDGE

arga sana sa rsa dlm rm500
sini 500-600

yg ni buli2 la klo main 60watt rms peak 150watt peak
klo mo bunyi cantik, cari Total harmonic distortion (THD) yg rendah2

untuk woofer 2 klo sa pkai cap ayam pn ok buat smntara buli2 layan la...hehe

suggestion aku boleh bagi banyak. tapi bajet yg menentukan yg mana mampu beli. ko tak cakap pasal bajet susah aku tolong. kalau bajet yg rendah daripada 500 lagi susah mau tolong, kalau under seribu, boleh cari 2nd hand amp. amp pioneer ok la, sederhana, lebih baik dari cap ayam.
ni contoh suggestion aku bagi sistem hi end SQL. contoh saja la, aku post ni di forum lain, malas mau taip lagi, so aku paste saja la.

for HU can get something like Eclipse 7200mkII, got 3 pairs of 8V RCA preout, or Pioneer DEX-P90 + DEQ-P90 can play upto 3way + sub as it has 4 pairs RCA. 4ch amp can get something dynamic like TRU technology T03 4.150, DLS A4, Alpine MRV-F900, Soundstream Human Reign, STEG K4.02, Zapco C2K 4.0, Boston Acoustics GT42 Genesis 4 channel, PPI amps, old skool Rockford Fosgate and so on. Monoblock can get DLS A6, Phoenix Gold MS2250, Helix SPXL 1000, Kicker 1500.1, TRU Technology H-1 Hammer, Rockford Fosgate 1501bd, Digital Designs Z1, JL Audio 1000/1 and so on. can check this website for some amp reference: http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/
now speaker wise, i suggest u to play active if u can get the eclipse HU meaning onli front 2 way component + sub. the rear leave it empty, u dun wanna hear vocals coming from the back, do you? nobody listens to a concert with back facing the singer. u will still get surround, no worry, dats wat we call ambience in SQ terms. and oso 6x9 will cancel out the bass produced from ur sub. some speakers dat i would recommend for ur style of music, Audio Development(AD) MM2, Focal k2p power, Rainbow Vanadium, Hertz MLK165, Alpine Z18T(3 way) or Z15T(2 way), DLS Nobelium 6.2, DLS Iridium 6.3 and so on. Sub can go for JBL Gti, Ground Zero, Earthquake, DLS SP12, Helix SPXL12, Kicker Solobarix X, Rockford Fosgate T2, RE Audio, Sundown audio, Hertz Mille 1200, Morel Ultimo 12, JL Audio W7 and so on.

ni aku dapat dari forum lain ttg amp pioneer entry lvl.

im a pioneer gm-6400f user ..been 4 month oredy now..well i can gv u some pro n cont a bit bout this product..
pros--
1.its a pioneer,and its genuine..no fake gm6400f yet on d market..and i doubt they will b one..so cheap not worth it to fake
2.as an amplifier..yes it does its job quite well..amplifies d sound..not so loud but its clear sounded..bring all those small sound that u didnt notice when ure ampless..
3.price wise..it was sold at rm900 on d early stage..i bought mine for rm600 because buy in package wif a sub
4.small design..fit well underseat..
5.60rms watt @4ohm 150rms bridged@4 ohm.. paired it wif decent speaker n sub..it does sound good..
6.its cheap because malaysian made n not to worry about fixing it at their service centre..
7.pioneer is well known for its durability..
8.compared to cap ayam,kole,memphis n even low end rm700 sounstream..gm6400f sounded good..
9.value for money
10.some improve feature compare to previous model gm6300f..

cons..
1.if ure goin deep into ice..this amp is not for u..lack of ummph i might say compared to branded imported ,pricier models..
2.u must pair it up wif at least 4v output hu to release d full potential of this amp..ive paired it up wif pioneer 2v hu..then i changed to clarion 6v hu..world of difference..
3.this amp is over protected..d cutting of power is too fast..when it got hot it tend to cut off and sound bcame not as loud as b4..make sure dont cover it wif carpet not only at d top..but side also..problem solve when i use 6v hu..
4.its fix at 80hz only hpf lpf..so u gonna find it troublesome if gonna play active..solve this problem wif hpf/lpf tuning hu capable..
5.when bridge..d sound is unequal..seems it support d sub very well but not d component..(maybe my component midbass not that good also)
6.somwer i found this amp is over rated bout their rms power..ppi 50rms amp seems louder than this..
7.when pair it wif higher than recomend sub 250rms (recomend 150rms) almost seems no sub was install..

for now i m satisfied wif my pairing up drivers,hu n amps..maybe ill change my amp later...still enjoying d sound outcome..

finalazy84 wrote:

brapa budget ko untuk amp bro?2 component dngn mid ko brapa watt rms? cari yg dlm 2 range power la...jn under power.

sa beli yg ni


60 Watts x 4, at 4 ohms
150 Watts x 2, at 4 ohms BRIDGE

arga sana sa rsa dlm rm500
sini 500-600

yg ni buli2 la klo main 60watt rms peak 150watt peak
klo mo bunyi cantik, cari Total harmonic distortion (THD) yg rendah2

untuk woofer 2 klo sa pkai cap ayam pn ok buat smntara buli2 layan la...hehe

aah .. yg macam ni la yg saya nampak tuk display di kedai tu... macam sedap juga la bunyi dia..~