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PostSubject: ICE TROUBLESHOOTING- SIMPTOM2/ TANDA2 KEROSAKAN...   ICE TROUBLESHOOTING- SIMPTOM2/ TANDA2 KEROSAKAN... Icon_minitime4/12/2009, 11:36 am

Salam semua siolooners.... terutama otai2 semua...
kasik advise sket camner cara2 nak buat trouble shooting ICE...basic trouble shooting consider .

1- camner nak tau amp rosak?
2- camner nak tau pre amp rosak?
3- camner nak tau woofer tak perform @ tuning tak tepat?
4- camner nak tau speaker mid bass dah pecah @ rosak- bunyi tak clear dan macam berdesir2.
5- camner nak tau tweeter over setting?
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PostSubject: Re: ICE TROUBLESHOOTING- SIMPTOM2/ TANDA2 KEROSAKAN...   ICE TROUBLESHOOTING- SIMPTOM2/ TANDA2 KEROSAKAN... Icon_minitime4/12/2009, 8:58 pm

biasanya troubleshooting berdasarkan simptom. bukan apa yg rosak ada apa simptom, susah mau kata ni. macam bunyi kapal terbang ada banyak punca yg boleh menyebabkan ni. secara pendak, jawapan ke soalan2 kamu ni:

1 - tukar amp lain dan test, paling cepat dan mudah. kalau amp terbakar, cuba cium amp tu, ada bau hangus tu.
2 - remove pre amp dan test terus ke amp tanpa pre amp.
3 - setiap woofer ada satu range volume untuk buat kotak untuknya, setiap volume akan menghasilkan bunyi yg lain. ni mau tengok kegemaran sendiri untuk pilih bunyi yg mana. kalau mau tau woofer rosak, boleh kedengaran bunyi pecah walaupun volume tak kuat.
4 - guna telinga.
5- over setting? tak faham... kalau bunyi tweeter pecah, tu crossover setting mungkin tak ngam atau amp gain terlalu besar.
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klo gain tlmpau bsar amp akan clip.klo mo experimen, buka winamp, kasi full suma equlizer.buka slow pn bunyi hancur...

paling senang klo mo tau 2 benda rosak atau tdk, teda kluar bunyi...hehe ICE TROUBLESHOOTING- SIMPTOM2/ TANDA2 KEROSAKAN... 900701
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Hello Bro qimie22,,

Prtanyaan bro tu sbnarnya jwapan dah trjawab pun...
Paling tepat jawapan yg diberi oleh bro finalazy84 hehe

1. kalu amp rosak tu dia xhidup / suara mid pecah2 / ada inteference mcm2 bunyi yg dihasilkan oleh speaker walaupun kita xmain sound time 2.. ada byk lg tnda2 2 sbnarnya...

2. kalu preamp rosak tu dia xhidup / kalu sdh tune tp xda perbezaan bunyi jgk

3. Kalu nak tau woofer tuning xtepat tu kena lah tahu cara mendengar sound baru bleh buat ksimpulan sama ada woofer tu perform btul @ tax... Tp cara yg pling baik bila kita rasa subs tuning xbtul sdh,, kita akan rasa xpuas ati dgn bunyi subs kita 2.. pegi tune dgn org yg mahir lar...

4. kalau nak tau speaker mid bass dah pecah @ rosak- bunyi tak clear dan macam berdesir2 tue, cara dia ialah kita dengar lar speaker/ mid tu.. kalu pcah2 sdh mksudnya pcah2 lar..hehe kalu rosak pula dia xkuarkan sound.. kalau brdesir2 tue pula namanya inteference...

5. Kalu nak tau tweeter oversetting, kita akan rasa tweeter tue rasa kuat sangat, memekak jak..kita xslesa..



Smua prtanyaan bro ni sbnarnya bro bleh rasa sndiri...Coz yang akan dgr sound bro tue, bro sndri jgk..lain cter la td kalu nak main SPL style.


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ya, betul kata pein, banyak simptom berpunca dari pelbagai punca. contohnya kalau amp rosak, mau tengok mana yg rosak, IC, soldering, RCA connection, Power supply terbakar, capacitor bocor dan lain lain. kalau speaker, ada voice coil, cone, connection, rubber/foam surround, installation dan lain lain. mau tau yg mana bergantung kepada kemahiran dan experience installer la.
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anyway Thanks semua.. preamp msh keluar bunyi lg, test speaker lain pun msh sama macam tu, amp pun hdup juga, maybe HU yg kondem atau ada benda yg connect Hu dgn preamp yg kondem.

Mo bwa pi kdai tokey kdai dah nak kondem juga masuk spital di KL. terpaksa turun KK lah macam ni.. any suggestion kat kk?dgn reasonable price.. atau pun area Cpt, Beaufort, KB or Kdt?
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cuba jgn pkai 2 preamp dn amp.trus direct sja HU p mid.pas 2 cuba jn pkai preamp, pkai amp sja trus.untuk test mna satu punca mslh dia.
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u cakap ada bunyi, bunyi apa tu? kapal terbang? hissing? lebih baik pergi ke kedai yg ada experience utk check. kalau cakap di sini susah mau tolong. mau tengok bagaimana wiring kamu juga tu. kebanyakannya kalau guna pre amp cap ayam akan menghasilkan bunyi kapal terbang, aku last time pun pernah kena juga.
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sya pkai pre amp wiring sndiri teda juga...hehe ada hissing sound la.but very light dn tdk mengikut bunyi engine.2 pun if u set hi freq too high.

klo dari preamp, ground dia ikut HU, kadang pndai jadi mslh bunyi kapal.ni pre amp macam sngat sensitive.so try ground trus p body.bunyi berdesir2 yg bro mksudkan ikut reving engine ka?klo on aircond pndai kuat 2 bunyi?klo bukn macam 2 means bukn psal mslh bunyi kapal la 2.
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Bro..kalau sistem sound ada masalah2 yg brpnjgan..ni bmkna, benda tue nak minta diganti hehe
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pein wrote:
Bro..kalau sistem sound ada masalah2 yg brpnjgan..ni bmkna, benda tue nak minta diganti hehe


yup betol2..... hehehheheheehehhe agong tak mengizinkan lg....
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bleh cium ka amp?? kalau sa kiss?? ok ka juga ahh???
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kiss pun boleh, tu rasa pelik sikit, perisa besi. Very Happy jangan sampai mau french kiss la. lebih baik kiss sumandak, tu lebih sweet, lol.
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finalazy84 wrote:
cuba jgn pkai 2 preamp dn amp.trus direct sja HU p mid.pas 2 cuba jn pkai preamp, pkai amp sja trus.untuk test mna satu punca mslh dia.




Thanks dah dpt puncanya... pre amp hangkang...... mo minta baru tu...
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