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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 31 Icon_minitime26/4/2010, 5:20 pm

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lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy
WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome



What is SQ?

There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,transient response, and the list goes on and on.
SQ is a combination of all these technical factors as well as proper
speaker placement and proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 31 Icon_minitime25/7/2010, 11:43 am

eiii...sdih ta dpt join...huhu...next time, pegi la awal skit...hehe mkn sana terus.bnyak tu yg sedap2 sna...hehe brapa ramai kamu smlm boi?

owh itu pula perbezaanya tu...
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 31 Icon_minitime25/7/2010, 11:52 am

Boi, tu viva guna HU nakamichi CD-35. old skool player. sub rockford punch dan amp Canton. speaker boschmann. focal lebih kurang macam tu tajam la kalau tak pandai tuning. mesti tune utk mengurangkan brightness dia.

final. pioneer yg external processor macam ko cakap tu, ada 2 series la. PRS dan ODR. ODR yg hi end. kita crita pasal PRS dulu. DEX + DEQ P01 = P9, DEH P01 = P99, P01 semua ni carrozeria, for japan market. P01 II = P90. bezanya P9 dan P90 hanya internal beberapa capasitor dan lain punya op-amp. mana satu yg bagus tak banyak beza la. almost the same, the very first edition of P9 used Elna caps, the later ones used some cheapo caps. ODR ada P70x, P70xII, RS-P90. newest is RS-P90. i dunno wat is the difference between RS-P90 with the other predecessor, not many ppl can afford this thing so less info. P70x and xII oso not much diff, juz like P9 and P90. P9/P90 and P70/P70xII diff is onli on some materials used inside, ODR has 2 op amp for each channel instead of P90 1 per channel. means less work load on the op-amp for ODR. but it makes not dat much of a diff, maybe better channel seperation, but i think i does not worth double the price of a P9. the ODR HU, D7x, D7xII and D7xIII. D7xIII has 2 master clock while the other 2 has onli 1.
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finalazy84 wrote:
eiii...sdih ta dpt join...huhu...next time, pegi la awal skit...hehe mkn sana terus.bnyak tu yg sedap2 sna...hehe brapa ramai kamu smlm boi?

owh itu pula perbezaanya tu...
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kita semalam lebih kurang 8-9 org. 5 kereta utk audition. alip pun ada sampai.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 31 Icon_minitime25/7/2010, 12:02 pm

alip punya system suda tune kaw2 ka?hehe

so P99 teda external proc tapi guna internal proc?so masih sama lvl dngn P9 and P90 yg guna extrnal proc?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 31 Icon_minitime25/7/2010, 12:14 pm

alip punya dia ada idea suda 2 macam mana mau tune. suda d ajar sifu ck semalam. tp sifu ck sangat busy. suma orang panggil dia suru tune.. kasian dia kena lari2. ada juga orang mau dengar sy punya saun. tp sori kawan2. sekarang bisu. baru mau cari wayar. napa kalau dari rca amp in > converter > wire out amp (maksudnya xda amp) bunyi sangat slow? xkn la HU xcukup power mau run 2 coaxial..
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ck - apa setup 2 navara? kaya gila owh 2 orang..
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inda paham mksud ko Boi...hehe cuba explain dari HU.converter apa mksud ko ni Boi?Hi Lo converter?npa ko mo pkai converter?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 31 Icon_minitime25/7/2010, 12:40 pm

ni macam. HU > rca cable > 2 to 1 converter @ rca 2 wire converter > speaker wire.

buat macam ni sebab suda cabut amp. jadi xda amp. jadi 2 rca sambung terus p wire speaker. converter ni yg convert rca kepada wire besa la.

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/ice-in-car-entertainment/342241-wts-steg-qm75-6mx-amp.html#post4386321

xtahan xda amp. bisu tahap max n macam minat ni amp. any idea?
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mesti la tdk kuat bunyi sebab RCA kn low signal.bukn high signal.klo convert pn, itu converter bukn amp kn.jdi imposible dia boleh kasi amplify signal.apa HU ko pkai boi?DIY sja ba, smbung speaker wire direct pegi HU.cari kwn2 yg pndai buat SQ style ICE - Page 31 360220 jgn rush ba.taupn cari kwn yg ada amp, ko pinjam dlu kijap SQ style ICE - Page 31 906383
itu steg tak sure pula...mau taiko2 yg comment ni.
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2la juga idea aku. kena tarik balik dari HU. sikarang mau hold on dulu buat kreta. kasi cure luka d ati sbb ada project yg fail semalam. HU pakai pioneer biasa2 jak. harap 2 amp dapat la dalam minggu depan. kalau ada sapa2 jumpa amp murah @ around 1k roger2 k..
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hehe relax ba...macam sya, ori wiring pegi speaker sya smbung juga pegi HU tapi tdk besmbung dngn speaker la.dari amp pegi speaker tarik wyer baru.supaya next time klau ada mslh 2 amp, sya smbung sja 2 wire dari HU pegi speaker.ta pelu buka HU dn mess wif the wires.k bro, good luck
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ya2. 2la silap dia ari 2. x pikir panjang.. mau p buat sekarang la. sini ruma susa ba mau buat. apartment. paking depan ruma cewek2. nanti d cakap pok silap pula. hahahaa. ba. sy p buat dulu aa..

power - rasa2 HU ku ada pico fisu prob ba. pandai ada n ilang. kin panas..
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wah complex nya penerangan c ck..hebat...hehe..ya final, sebab p99 adalah successor p90 skrg..cuma org mau p90 sbb dikatakan parts nya berkualiti & org mau tu processor, bleh save preset kita..org akan pilih p90 2nd hand rm4000 vs p99 baru rm4000 sebab harga asal p90 rm8000 kalau baru..p99 cramp sikit sbb tu processor build in dlm HU..depends la, aku pun suka juga p90, tp praktikal nya masa kita mau save ruang d kreta, amp suda 3 biji+processor lg sebiji, mana mau letak tu hehe, kecuali memang mau buat lawa2 di boot, kos lg n bikit berat kreta hehehe..mana2 ja yg kita sanggup, just do it hehe..i support u all..

boi, tu mau cek dulu btl2, sbb ko punya sistem masih berserabut lg, mau antar pg pakar bedah ah seng juga hehe
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pa mksud pndai hilang2?pndai off?tau bunyi pndai hilang?klo fuse slalu memang trus teda bunyi ba
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bukan. setau sy pico amp prob dia kasi bunyi ikut 2 bunyi injin. pandai hilang2 = kadang2 ada. kadang2 xda..
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owh itu mksud ko...tatau la boi...suma speaker keluar bunyi 2 ka?suda cek RCA d HU ko?kadang2 loose RCA pn jdi macam 2.macam HU sa...hehe last2 sya lilit wire tape empat² RCA tu baru ok
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haha btl tu final...lex bah boi..jgn terlalu teknikal, banyak lg yg perlu di cek sblum komfom HU punya prob..kalau suda wat wiring baru, amp bgus smua baru bleh assume tu HU ada prob..

final, bila mau buat pillar, mau tengok juga ko punya speaker setup..baru nampak macam org main sound hehe..

hei hei, aku suda jd sarjan pula ni, final lg gila, contributor..nda lama lg jd founder then lord baden powell la ko haha pengakap la pula hahah
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hehe teda2 ba tu pngkat 2...mnunjukkan kita suda bnyak spam disini la 2...haha

bulum buat la power.skrg tengah befikir ni...sebabnya kn, sa tdk mo jadi macam ni.macam besar btul ni...huhu
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lebih kurang la ni dngn xt25 punya saiz...huhu
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Whoa...banyak sudah geng d sini ni....
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mau pelan2 ni, huhuhu..mau minta ajar tuning lg..
mcmana susunan yg btl pasang speaker ni..maksud sy speaker depan ikt player ka, pastu speaker blakang ikt power-amp ka..contoh ja

mesti ikt susunan kan baru ok..bunyi teratur..?? mau belajar dari basic ni
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speaker blakang tdk paya la bro...kcau soundstage 2.main simple2 sja dlu.main 2 way system.middbass + tweeter.biasanya sblum org psang tweeter, dorg akan test mna yg berbunyi paling bagus.sbab tweeter ada yg klau menghadap kita (on-axis)bunyinya cantik.so lain tweeter lain la bunyinya.
middbass klau kasi angkat sikit mnghadap kita pn ok juga.supaya bunyi lagi cantik.macam kita dngar lagu d umah guna HIFI la.banding dengar bedepan speaker dngan d dari tepi speaker tdk sama.
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hehe teda2 ba tu pngkat 2...mnunjukkan kita suda bnyak spam disini la 2...haha

bulum buat la power.skrg tengah befikir ni...sebabnya kn, sa tdk mo jadi macam ni.macam besar btul ni...huhu
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maksud apa yang besar? tweeter? bukan ck punya pun macam ni meh?
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ya...lbih kurang la.tpi macam ta cantik pula sa tngok ba...huhu
CK, cuba tngok macam mna A pillar ko kena buat...
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finalazy84 wrote:
speaker blakang tdk paya la bro...kcau soundstage 2.main simple2 sja dlu.main 2 way system.middbass + tweeter.biasanya sblum org psang tweeter, dorg akan test mna yg berbunyi paling bagus.sbab tweeter ada yg klau menghadap kita (on-axis)bunyinya cantik.so lain tweeter lain la bunyinya.
middbass klau kasi angkat sikit mnghadap kita pn ok juga.supaya bunyi lagi cantik.macam kita dngar lagu d umah guna HIFI la.banding dengar bedepan speaker dngan d dari tepi speaker tdk sama.
kena tau jg keadah memasang ni..nant sy cari lu speaker yg ok sikit..thankss all
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Zircon ko dari KP d mana? Kalau sanang2 tu pglah Bt 65 sini kabun gatah lawat2 kita orang di sini....
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