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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 7 Icon_minitime5/10/2010, 9:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's
a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play
loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ
system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system,
which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 7 Icon_minitime10/10/2010, 6:23 pm

Hehehehe.....c Finalazy ni....sa yg suruh dia test d system dia...dia pula suruh sa pg try....bah nah sa kasih tu file...

Korang try ni....tgk2 tweet korang bagagarkah nda...heheheh..................jgn ckp bad recording arr....sa udah try ni...semua okay.... Buang ja tu tanda """"

"""http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RUYUZ491""" - Jesley Westenra - In Trutina

"""http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5PNZ4DFK"""" - Katherine Jenkins - Agnus Dei

"""http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6C90K1J4""" Yiriuma - Kiss the Rain





Sorry, lupa sa convert pg flac, udah upload baru ingat...so besar sikitlah file dia...kalau yg line slow tu...korang guna tu File Download Manager...yg sa suka ni megaupload boleh resume kalau failed...

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 7 Icon_minitime10/10/2010, 7:01 pm

haha sbab yg file 2 memang bad recording...hehe ba sa try...btw, sepa2 yg ingin acc yg boleh access suma donlod server such as megaupload, rapidshare, hotfile, depositfile dn etc² bleh pm sya.1 month RM30.full access smua server 1 acc sja. Very Happy

cuba kamu share2 dlu lagu2 yg digunakan untuk tuning.contoh, first lagu yg akan d psang untuk dngar certain bunyi.then lagu seterusnya untuk dngar apa pula smpai la last lagu apa yg dipasang...etc etc.masing2 org lain preference lagu yg dipilih, jdi lgi bnyak pilihan lgi bagus la. Very Happy

p.s. ni kiss the rain c andrew baru la cantik.hehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 7 Icon_minitime11/10/2010, 9:04 pm

aik ingatkan ada udah update..

k la aku buka topik baru..

start 11.10.2010 ni aku minat n wish ada :-

Mcintosh 6ch amp
Mcintosh Monoblock
scandinavia 6/2
DLS ur2.5
P9/p99

itu shj..nanti bila2 masa / btukar taste aku update lg hehe..btw ni angan2 ja la.
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fuuu...ni baru high end =) mhl ba tu HU...mau pun mesti ada at least 4K Very Happy

btw, skrg sya tngah membaca psal crossover.termasuklah jenis2 crossover filter untuk passive yg bermacam2.macam best juga owh...hehe
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hehe...aku dpt p9 murah...tunggu ada duit baru bli dari dia hehe...tu amp aku minat sbb classic bah n ada lampu2 lg logonya..kalau letak d bonet perggh..tp kering poket dibuatnya..cari amp murah jd la..

oic...pernah tengok sys dulu2 ka...dulu kan org main passive...crossover susun habis dalam 1 enclosure..haha..ah seng ckp sys g2 kuat makan karen..tu pengalamannya menginstall ICE sys berbelas tahun yg lepas
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yaka...hehe sa mo tau crossing point yg mnyebab kn freq peak, flat narow tau wide punya peak.lebih kurang macam 2 Peq ba kunu...hehe sbab sya ni lom faham btul dngn crossover ni.yg ni mksud sya active system la...wa P9 brapa la?yg chankeong jual 2 mau 3K.bukan ko mau p99 ka?hehe
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oh...kalau ko pakai pioneer ko trus paham tu crossover..crossing pointnya tu mau di tengok d graph

bukanla..ada sifu sini mau jual..tdk sampai 3k ...p99 mau, tp masalah duit ja tu yg nda kesampaian hehe..ni ujung tahun byr insurans n roadtax lg 2k mati
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brapa tahun suda kereta ko?kereta sa ta lama lgi masuk tahun kedua.next year awl buln 2.kena mula menabung ni...hehe

psal crossover d pioneer 2 ada sa nmpak d HU c boi.tpi graphic tu tdk acurate.tpi buli la...hehe tujuan sa mau tau ni sbab kita punya speaker ada certain freq dia kuat dn ada yg kurang.so klau yg kurang 2 ada baiknya klau cross baik2 d titik itu biar ada peak yg wide skit spaya jadi flat (knon ni theory noob sya) hehe
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baru setahun...

ya..at least kita nampak la apa yg perlu di buat kan..yup u r right about the speaker freq..aku cross cari titik yg paling open dia punya hi freq..then leveling...then cross...then levelling...lg sampai dpt hehe...bantu kc flat bunyi di eq juga kalau d crossover suda nda dpt tolong (tdk semestinya flat eq means flat sounding)...tp ko punya cable bgus bah...mungkin lebih senang dpt flat sound sbb kurang loss on certain freq
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finalazy84 wrote:
brapa tahun suda kereta ko?kereta sa ta lama lgi masuk tahun kedua.next year awl buln 2.kena mula menabung ni...hehe

psal crossover d pioneer 2 ada sa nmpak d HU c boi.tpi graphic tu tdk acurate.tpi buli la...hehe tujuan sa mau tau ni sbab kita punya speaker ada certain freq dia kuat dn ada yg kurang.so klau yg kurang 2 ada baiknya klau cross baik2 d titik itu biar ada peak yg wide skit spaya jadi flat (knon ni theory noob sya) hehe


Cara mudah....buat balik2 sampai sedap didengar......cara yg sangat2 mudah.....buat RTA....buli DIY bah.....
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RTA?trueRTA ka?macam mhl sja alat2 yg d perlu 2...dn tatau mna bleh beli 2.mau guna tu RTA pun sa tdk pndai...hehe klau mau aim bunyi sedap sa ni susa skit.suda lama2 macam tdk sure suda.haha jgn2 ko suda ada bikin RTA ni kn andrew.share2 la brg baik Very Happy

cable sa kira lowest end VDH ba power.nama ja kali kin mahal 2...hehe tpi sa yg tepngaruh lebih2...hehe
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hehe bukan smua org ada RTA machine tu liau, 10k sebiji tu..kalau ada pun ramai yg nda pndai pakai n blame on the machine for the shitty sound...ada lg cara mudah dari itu sbnrnya..hehe..

ah seng ada RTA machine n machine2 lain pun ada macam phase checker n ntahla apa lg..aku nda smpai tahap tu la


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ada ba RTA punya software.tpi kena ada mic dn brg2 yg susa d dapat la.untuk btul2 dpt tu bunyi yg kluar dari speaker...sa rsa cost buat 2 buli beli HU suda...hehe klau rmai org peminat SQ buli juga guna untuk tuning dn ada business la...hehe
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hehe bukan smua org ada RTA machine tu liau, 10k sebiji tu..kalau ada pun ramai yg nda pndai pakai n blame on the machine for the shitty sound...ada lg cara mudah dari itu sbnrnya..hehe..

ah seng ada RTA machine n machine2 lain pun ada macam phase checker n ntahla apa lg..aku nda smpai tahap tu la


Zaman DIY ni tu mesin sudah oudatedlah liau.....tgk c FInalzy...dia punya installation pun dia buat sendiri bah....kita berforum ni salah satu sebabnya pasal kita mau ada knowledge sendiri and DIY SQ is not just for competition but for our own ears.....daily driving pleasure....


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ya btl tu final.....btw ko pkai VDH yg low end pun suda lebih dari bgus...hmm aku kalau dpt pkai monster ja pun puas ati udah..

hehe jd kalau g2 msti yg macam c final ckp la ni kan andrew
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ada ba RTA punya software.tpi kena ada mic dn brg2 yg susa d dapat la.untuk btul2 dpt tu bunyi yg kluar dari speaker...sa rsa cost buat 2 buli beli HU suda...hehe klau rmai org peminat SQ buli juga guna untuk tuning dn ada business la...hehe


Ko pg ja sana karamunsing ada tu....dua benda ko perlu...tu USB sound card....beli dari MAC Borneo....then ko g beli tu condenser MIC sana Yamaha muzik tu, I suggest Behringger ECM8000 for the Mic and M-Audio Mobile Pre for the USB sounds card.... then ambil laptop ko....download TrueRTA....ada banyak lagi bah software lain....then pg sana DIYMA lengkap tutorial dorang sana macam mana mo buat RTA DIY sendiri.....dont consider so much the money spent....but the process of getting the knowledge and doing it yourself is such an undeniable pleasure....
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pa yg sa ckp?DIY RTA machine? ya sbab c andrew penah suru sya buat dlu...haha tpi itu smbungan mic ke laptop 2 macam susa dpt dn mahal.huhu

ba tunggu ujung tahun ni sa buat balik smua dari door panel smpai ke a pillar seterusnya ke boot...harap2 berjaya la...mau recruit cousin sa ni jadi tukang tolong...haha

monster cable ko ingat cikai ka power?beratus juga 2 geng ...hehe ada ba VDH macam cable sya tpi ni 5M kena jual RM300.ada d carhifi. yg BEE nma dia.mnatau dia mau jual yg new RM300 juga...tpi 2 org desprate tu mau bikin home hifi dia.rsnya bleh bargain kaw kaw.
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Andreww wrote:
finalazy84 wrote:
ada ba RTA punya software.tpi kena ada mic dn brg2 yg susa d dapat la.untuk btul2 dpt tu bunyi yg kluar dari speaker...sa rsa cost buat 2 buli beli HU suda...hehe klau rmai org peminat SQ buli juga guna untuk tuning dn ada business la...hehe


Ko pg ja sana karamunsing ada tu....dua benda ko perlu...tu USB sound card....beli dari MAC Borneo....then ko g beli tu condenser MIC sana Yamaha muzik tu, I suggest Behringger ECM8000 for the Mic and M-Audio Mobile Pre for the USB sounds card.... then ambil laptop ko....download TrueRTA....ada banyak lagi bah software lain....then pg sana DIYMA lengkap tutorial dorang sana macam mana mo buat RTA DIY sendiri.....dont consider so much the money spent....but the process of getting the knowledge and doing it yourself is such an undeniable pleasure....

brapa budget ni brg2 ni?klau ada macam syok juga msa TT kn Laughing Very Happy
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Monster Cable bukan chikai ohh.....yg XLN 402 dia tu 2nd hand ja d Mycarhifi korang nampak RM600 ohh.....dulu standard bah ni cable monster ni....cuma ni depend sama iklan bah juga ni....VDH tu sebenarnya mana sesuai untuk kereta....kecuali yg highest endlah....untuk umah bah....ko tgklah VDH ko tu final.....licak lembut bah tu getah dia.....mana ngam tu untuk kereta....bukan kena design untuk kereta pun.....kena litar pintas kang....nah menangis.....kekeke.....
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finalazy84 wrote:
Andreww wrote:
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ada ba RTA punya software.tpi kena ada mic dn brg2 yg susa d dapat la.untuk btul2 dpt tu bunyi yg kluar dari speaker...sa rsa cost buat 2 buli beli HU suda...hehe klau rmai org peminat SQ buli juga guna untuk tuning dn ada business la...hehe


Ko pg ja sana karamunsing ada tu....dua benda ko perlu...tu USB sound card....beli dari MAC Borneo....then ko g beli tu condenser MIC sana Yamaha muzik tu, I suggest Behringger ECM8000 for the Mic and M-Audio Mobile Pre for the USB sounds card.... then ambil laptop ko....download TrueRTA....ada banyak lagi bah software lain....then pg sana DIYMA lengkap tutorial dorang sana macam mana mo buat RTA DIY sendiri.....dont consider so much the money spent....but the process of getting the knowledge and doing it yourself is such an undeniable pleasure....

brapa budget ni brg2 ni?klau ada macam syok juga msa TT kn Laughing Very Happy


Condenser mic Behringger ECM8000 RM350

M- Audio Mobile Pre around RM 800 lah max tu.....
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haha, itu la psal getah dia lembut2...jdi kena psang d tmpat yg lamat la Laughing klau minta psang d kdai acc confirm la 2 cable tingal sikit kena putus2...haha actly dlm dia ada 1 getah yg keras lgi bah...c andrew bckp macam dia pun mnguna VDH juga Laughing haha...memang ko guna VDH juga ba kn andrew...dududu...
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hehe, ya lah some may argue, one must use VDH for the best performance n hi-end feel lah,...but to me any brand works well bah kalau suda hi quality punya section..macam aku pakai rca top of the line PG suda cukup ok udah aku rasa..n aku pilih monster sbb senang mau dapat di tempat ku..kalau vdh mana mau cari tu? AC, jauh tuu..aritu kamu macam mau order dari oversea lg kan? punya jauh tu
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hehe, ya lah some may argue, one must use VDH for the best performance n hi-end feel lah,...but to me any brand works well bah kalau suda hi quality punya section..macam aku pakai rca top of the line PG suda cukup ok udah aku rasa..n aku pilih monster sbb senang mau dapat di tempat ku..kalau vdh mana mau cari tu? AC, jauh tuu..aritu kamu macam mau order dari oversea lg kan? punya jauh tu


Jgn lupa geng Monster Cable pun ada tiruan ohh...mo pasti kalau yg ori ko potong tu cable check d tengah2 dia ada satu core lagi...yg tiruan punya tada tu benda....and VDH pun ada juga tiruan....
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ari 2 order sbab habis stock.yg RCA sya bli used punya.yg kira mau beli dari ebay tu knukoncept punya cable.
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oic...ok2......

haha ni monster tmpt aku kmfom ori punya..tp aku rasa 200 series saja..nanti aku kc komfom..aku ni terinspirasi (bukan terpoison a) ngan autogadget punya setup bah hehe..tp dorang pakai 402 la....
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