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ckmoy007 CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: SQ style ICE 5/10/2010, 9:18 pm | |
| First topic message reminder :
Lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy
WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome
What is SQ? There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics, transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.
From the reputable car audio enthusiast
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AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 27/11/2010, 10:44 pm | |
| - Boi wrote:
- ada ba sini. jarang on9 sebab tinggal sana promenade sama parents. sekarang balik ruma baru ada tenet.
ayeh - newbie pakai barang power? huhuhu. xda masalah ba 2. dulu aku pun angan2 mau pakai focal be ba. tapi xda orang jual. alpine jak ada. angkat jak la. padahal dengar pun belum pernah.
airpulse - ok ba 2 player. sebab ngam 2k ko punya buget. aku rasa ko pun xsanggup juga spend besar 2k saun. jadi bagi optimum la. hehehee.. thanks..kau faham juga kan situasi tu boi hehehe.. hum saya angkatlah tu 9815,try contact itu org lah, lewat mlm suda ni |
| | | Andreww SENIOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 27/11/2010, 10:48 pm | |
| Heheheh....tada bah...sa gurau2 ama c ayie saja bah...cute bah dia ni...adakah pg tanya org SQ mo main SPL....hehehehe....kalau dalam SQ ni sub cuma kasih lengkap system saja bah....bukannya the most important macam dalam SPL....
Bah...kalau mo main SPL nda pandai koyak tu SUB ayieh ko balilah tu RF T2....kasih feed dia power cukup2 n ngam2....mana nda koyak kalau tu SUB cuma 500 W RMS kena antam sampai 1000 W RMS....udah tu kena tune lagi sampai below FS dia....apa nda bottom down.....
Kalau rajin ko join sana DIYMA...dorang ada banyak lagi yang custom made sub and custom made amp.......tapi ko kena order direct terus dari USA.... |
| | | AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 27/11/2010, 11:14 pm | |
| hum, baru contact dgn ashton tu, dia kata hanya HU ja without remote (remote hilang),but semua function boleh buat dari HU..
rm500.. |
| | | AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 12:05 am | |
| eh..mana suma org ni |
| | | ckmoy007 CONTRIBUTOR
Countries/State : Age : 40 location : Kota Kinabalu Points : 12700 Reputation : 4 Number of posts : 1317
| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 1:07 am | |
| hebat ko org ni, semua main high high belaka. TT mmg enjoyable, most important we have good company. very nice knowing u guys. miss my ICE la, stock ICE mmg tak tahan.
airpulse, go for the 9815 la, tak payah fikir lagi. lepas HU mau cari focal la ni. hehe. kasi pam dgn STEG amp lagi, ba... rock kaw kaw suda tu. |
| | | Boi SENIOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 2:09 am | |
| airpulse - ko cari jak amp murah yang 6 chan. janji jangan cap quang dong ming @ chap ayam la.. lagi jimat kalau maen passive la. 4 chan pun cukup. kecuali ko mau dum dum cak la. smlm pun lupa bagi kamu dgr 300 rms punya dum dum cak.. |
| | | Boi SENIOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 2:15 am | |
| - AIRpulse wrote:
- powerrud wrote:
- mmm macam jarang dengar, tp try la chit chat ngan dia, bleh tau juga tu kalau dia seller ok atau tidak..
jd, ko ambil focal c zack ka? fuh, msti sdap ni sys ko pas di tune brabis hehehe...start HU dulu geng,kemudian br cari 2 way, focal k2p, try ampless (mana tau suda cukup bunyi tidak suda upgrade) ..kalau 1 set focal menarik juga,boleh lekat sticker focal di kereta terus jadi tarikkan pencuri hahaha... tapi mungkin saya mau buat macam yg kau ckp smlm la di dlm kereta kau tu.. ada projek rahsia ka lagi ni. adede.. share2 ba.. |
| | | powerrud CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 8:33 am | |
| andrew: haha...tula aku heran ko suggest brg2 yg kaw hrganya hehe. airpulse: cuba google, ada ka jual remote tuk HU tu..bleh bli nanti masa depan..hehe ada focal 5 ch kan d icehifi..ntah ada ka lg tu..haha nda la ba kena curi tu geng kalau lekat2 sticker ja...cuba ko tengok kreta2 lain terutamanya kancil2 tu, mcm2 la di lekat, hks, brembo, tien,greddy, sparco mcm2 lg lah..teda pun org peduli hehehe CK : haha, ya bah..kalau ko nda start thread ni mana ada group kita macam skrg ni, thanks to u too boi: hehe focal be arr..sakit juga tu...bleh tu nanti ko krja angkat truz, tp tu f#1 suda sgt n lebih dari memadai..ngam2 ja bunyinya..sdap..kalau ada lg jual aku mau bli ..pasang di myvi ka. |
| | | Andreww SENIOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 9:23 am | |
| - powerrud wrote:
- andrew: haha...tula aku heran ko suggest brg2 yg kaw hrganya hehe.
airpulse: cuba google, ada ka jual remote tuk HU tu..bleh bli nanti masa depan..hehe ada focal 5 ch kan d icehifi..ntah ada ka lg tu..haha nda la ba kena curi tu geng kalau lekat2 sticker ja...cuba ko tengok kreta2 lain terutamanya kancil2 tu, mcm2 la di lekat, hks, brembo, tien,greddy, sparco mcm2 lg lah..teda pun org peduli hehehe
CK : haha, ya bah..kalau ko nda start thread ni mana ada group kita macam skrg ni, thanks to u too
boi: hehe focal be arr..sakit juga tu...bleh tu nanti ko krja angkat truz, tp tu f#1 suda sgt n lebih dari memadai..ngam2 ja bunyinya..sdap..kalau ada lg jual aku mau bli ..pasang di myvi ka.
ada kawan sa jual semi F#1.... |
| | | powerrud CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 11:45 am | |
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| | | AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 1:05 pm | |
| - powerrud wrote:
- andrew: haha...tula aku heran ko suggest brg2 yg kaw hrganya hehe.
airpulse: cuba google, ada ka jual remote tuk HU tu..bleh bli nanti masa depan..hehe ada focal 5 ch kan d icehifi..ntah ada ka lg tu..haha nda la ba kena curi tu geng kalau lekat2 sticker ja...cuba ko tengok kreta2 lain terutamanya kancil2 tu, mcm2 la di lekat, hks, brembo, tien,greddy, sparco mcm2 lg lah..teda pun org peduli hehehe
CK : haha, ya bah..kalau ko nda start thread ni mana ada group kita macam skrg ni, thanks to u too
boi: hehe focal be arr..sakit juga tu...bleh tu nanti ko krja angkat truz, tp tu f#1 suda sgt n lebih dari memadai..ngam2 ja bunyinya..sdap..kalau ada lg jual aku mau bli ..pasang di myvi ka.
si boi boleh tu angkat yup yup yup
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| | | AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 1:06 pm | |
| - ckmoy007 wrote:
- hebat ko org ni, semua main high high belaka. TT mmg enjoyable, most important we have good company. very nice knowing u guys. miss my ICE la, stock ICE mmg tak tahan.
airpulse, go for the 9815 la, tak payah fikir lagi. lepas HU mau cari focal la ni. hehe. kasi pam dgn STEG amp lagi, ba... rock kaw kaw suda tu. ya bro,i think no remote still ok, saya dah tanya itu seller berapa total cost hu+postage, nanti dia info. harap tidaklah postage sampai 100 ka steg tu macam overkill ja saya rasa haha,kalau dapat pdx4.100 ok suda kali, tapi mau try macam kamurang recommend dulu, ampless. bah, mazda 6 tu tunggu greenlight ja..pasni satu lagi high end system muncul hehe - Boi wrote:
- airpulse - ko cari jak amp murah yang 6 chan. janji jangan cap quang dong ming @ chap ayam la.. lagi jimat kalau maen passive la. 4 chan pun cukup. kecuali ko mau dum dum cak la. smlm pun lupa bagi kamu dgr 300 rms punya dum dum cak..
ada ka amp murah 6 chn hehehe..btw, k2p siap passive sekali kan? ok juga ni, tapi mesti kena tembak kalau main passive hehehe.. apa beza kp2 dengan UV ya? tiada projek rahsia bah geng, saya ikut cadangan si power ja, amalkan kesederhanaan..yg penting telinga sendiri cukup ok tu system ok sudahlah - powerrud wrote:
- andrew: haha...tula aku heran ko suggest brg2 yg kaw hrganya hehe.
airpulse: cuba google, ada ka jual remote tuk HU tu..bleh bli nanti masa depan..hehe ada focal 5 ch kan d icehifi..ntah ada ka lg tu..haha nda la ba kena curi tu geng kalau lekat2 sticker ja...cuba ko tengok kreta2 lain terutamanya kancil2 tu, mcm2 la di lekat, hks, brembo, tien,greddy, sparco mcm2 lg lah..teda pun org peduli hehehe
CK : haha, ya bah..kalau ko nda start thread ni mana ada group kita macam skrg ni, thanks to u too
boi: hehe focal be arr..sakit juga tu...bleh tu nanti ko krja angkat truz, tp tu f#1 suda sgt n lebih dari memadai..ngam2 ja bunyinya..sdap..kalau ada lg jual aku mau bli ..pasang di myvi ka.
hehe..saya beli HU dulu..manalah tau kan ada yg mau jual remote ja ekekeke,angkat ja..errr..remote memang specific ka? sebab saya ada nampak manual kata 9815 grouping dengan 9811 dan 9813, so remote model lg 2 tu mungkin boleh pakai juga. ya, thanks to ck start this thread..kalau tidak mungkin tiada team sq sioloon ni |
| | | Boi SENIOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 1:25 pm | |
| hehehe. sy punya pun besa orang panggil murah juga tu.. hehehe. berapa ko punya buget? tapi sub konpom juga mau amp. brand amp tu susah sikit mau cakap la. janji ko selesa. hahahaha. kalau aku JBL pun ok. murah lagi.. ko cuba2 la search.. 2 chan pun bole untuk sub.. |
| | | Andreww SENIOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 2:24 pm | |
| - powerrud wrote:
- apa speakrnya andrew
sama macam c boi punya.....mid bass dia 15w tapi F#1 version....tweeter dia sama dengan F#1 punya tweet cuma yg ni original scanspeaks bukan F#1 version punya...2 ways come with passive.... |
| | | ckmoy007 CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 3:19 pm | |
| airpulse, jgn ko beli PDX, nanti menyesal berhabis tu. itu full range class D amp, suda ada banyak negative comments ttg amp itu. ko cuba carila Genesis Profile 4 ultra, aku rasa itu baru ngam ko punya taste, nanti bila mo tambah sub, boleh angkat dari fina genesis profile sub. |
| | | powerrud CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 8:13 pm | |
| hehe siapa bilang kalau main passive kena timbak, timbak dia balik lah hehe..k2p sama k2p uv mengikut AC masa aku mula2 mencari speaker dulu2 dia ckp midbassnya berbeza..UV tu "upgraded version".. hehe btl lah tu airpulse..sederhana pun ok juga..pasal PDX amp & amp-amp yg sewaktu dengannya (class D) memang btl macam kureng sikit org cakap, tu org cakap lah, aku pun nda pernah dgr lg..bgus play safe lah kan..why not amp focal juga? 1 set lah baru syok..murah lg..sekali sama sub focal..tp kalau mau rms btl2 rendah tp masih sq pakai dls performance sub 150w rms..(hehe aku rasa nda cukup boom tuk taste ko ni, kalau aku ok suda tu)
oh kalau g2, carilah d google, remote tuk HU tu yg dijual berasingan, .
oh ok andrew, harga ngam ka
hehe c boi tu minat sub JBL tu..nasib adikku suda ambil tu JBL power series... oh ya td c boi pg city audio, test tu mtx 9500 hehe..thats what i mean true blast. |
| | | AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 8:27 pm | |
| - Boi wrote:
- hehehe. sy punya pun besa orang panggil murah juga tu.. hehehe. berapa ko punya buget? tapi sub konpom juga mau amp. brand amp tu susah sikit mau cakap la. janji ko selesa. hahahaha. kalau aku JBL pun ok. murah lagi.. ko cuba2 la search.. 2 chan pun bole untuk sub..
nantilah dulu boi, saya start ampless dulu manalah tau tersedap macam time kau tiada amp tu hehehe..saya ada juga sub dan 2 chn dua2 brand mohawk, kalau keadaan memerlukan pakai dulu setup ini hehe. - ckmoy007 wrote:
- airpulse, jgn ko beli PDX, nanti menyesal berhabis tu. itu full range class D amp, suda ada banyak negative comments ttg amp itu. ko cuba carila Genesis Profile 4 ultra, aku rasa itu baru ngam ko punya taste, nanti bila mo tambah sub, boleh angkat dari fina genesis profile sub.
aiks, fina mau jual sub dia ka?? hahaha..banyak recommendation ni hehehe..slow2,1 item at a time |
| | | powerrud CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 8:40 pm | |
| haha siapa bilang amp mohawk tdk bleh pakai..better than any ayam brand amps out there..kasi power up ja kalau power nda cukup...tp tu k2p uv 100w rms kalau nda silap..haha, u r going to feed it with an appropriate amp oso.. hu's internal amp nda cukup power tu...c boi punya f#1 cuma 50w rms tu la dapat angkat..
jeng3, main active 2-way perlu ada 4ch/ 2ch+2ch amp tuk front sys...so kena beli juga |
| | | AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 8:49 pm | |
| hehe..memang kena sacrifice ruang la ni jawabnya.
kalau gitu kenalah target 6 chn andai kata mau main active.
apa ya amp si boi? |
| | | finalazy84 MODERATOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 8:54 pm | |
| wa punya bnyak suda kamu post...hehe berabis poison c airpulse owh kn...hehe
airpulse: ok juga tu ko pkai sub mohawk...apa model sub ko tu?sub mohawk classic sya tu lmbut juga bunyi.itu genesis profile sub bukan subwoofer.itu amp monoblock.hehe tdk mau jual la...tiada duit mau ganti...hehe
btw itu focal k2p uv bukan 2ohm ka?make sure itu HU buli angkat 2ohm dlu.tpi kebaikan 2 ohm, amp bnyak produce power...hehe
Boi: d mna tu kedai boi?city audio papar ka? |
| | | AIRpulse CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 8:59 pm | |
| - finalazy84 wrote:
- wa punya bnyak suda kamu post...hehe berabis poison c airpulse owh kn...hehe
airpulse: ok juga tu ko pkai sub mohawk...apa model sub ko tu?sub mohawk classic sya tu lmbut juga bunyi.itu genesis profile sub bukan subwoofer.itu amp monoblock.hehe tdk mau jual la...tiada duit mau ganti...hehe
btw itu focal k2p uv bukan 2ohm ka?make sure itu HU buli angkat 2ohm dlu.tpi kebaikan 2 ohm, amp bnyak produce power...hehe
Boi: d mna tu kedai boi?city audio papar ka? haha, banyak saya menepis racun2 yg terbang ke arah saya haha. yup, classic punya.sub jenis spl ni memang bergegar rear mirror haha bahaya juga dorang recommend UV, mungkinkan k2p ok da hehehe |
| | | finalazy84 MODERATOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 9:28 pm | |
| - AIRpulse wrote:
- finalazy84 wrote:
- wa punya bnyak suda kamu post...hehe berabis poison c airpulse owh kn...hehe
airpulse: ok juga tu ko pkai sub mohawk...apa model sub ko tu?sub mohawk classic sya tu lmbut juga bunyi.itu genesis profile sub bukan subwoofer.itu amp monoblock.hehe tdk mau jual la...tiada duit mau ganti...hehe
btw itu focal k2p uv bukan 2ohm ka?make sure itu HU buli angkat 2ohm dlu.tpi kebaikan 2 ohm, amp bnyak produce power...hehe
Boi: d mna tu kedai boi?city audio papar ka? haha, banyak saya menepis racun2 yg terbang ke arah saya haha.
yup, classic punya.sub jenis spl ni memang bergegar rear mirror haha
bahaya juga dorang recommend UV, mungkinkan k2p ok da hehehe pelan2 ba.jgn ckp g2 nanti ko tdk brnti mngupgrade owh.hehe mohawk classic sbnrnya bass lmbut tau.bukn SPL tu.sya pkai sub itu ba sblum ni.lower extntion bagus juga tu.klau ngam tuning cantik tu bunyinya.c power prnah dngar.ko tnya dia la.hehe tpi ko tau la sa ni SQ tpi boom boom...hehe masa tu sya guna genesis profile sub.baru rsa cantik tu sub...time sya pkai cap ayam amp 2ch teda rsa lower extntion tu sbab tdk cukup power.kasi antam 550watt rms pegi 160watt RMS memang buli kuyak la tu sub...hehe |
| | | ckmoy007 CONTRIBUTOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 9:56 pm | |
| K2P biasa dan UV, bezanya di midbass sahaja. yg UV ada phase plug, macam kepala peluru, yg biasa mmg biasa saja la. bunyinya lebih kurang sama hanya UV lebih mantap mengikut double bass dan kick bass tapi tak boleh main rendah, lebih kurang dari 80Hz. kalau biasa punya boleh main dari 68Hz, bass lebih kuat dari UV tapi tidak secepat, macam double bass akan lagging sikit berbanding UV. dan kedua dua ni speaker 4 ohm, bkn 2 ohm yg fina cakap. utk main lagu rock, saya cadangkan UV. |
| | | Andreww SENIOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 10:10 pm | |
| Airpulse....
Ko check ni c Mike ada tulis perbezaan antara K2P UV dengan Old K2P
##http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,1483.0.html##
Yg ni c ZAC ada ajar macam mana mau kasih beza antra Fake K2P UV dengan Ori K2P UV...
##http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,2543.0.html##
Yang ni thread yang jual FOCAL K2P UV...
##http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,2650.0.html##
##http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,2650.0.html##
##http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,2320.0.html##
enjoy and happy hunting...buang ja tu simbil ## |
| | | finalazy84 MODERATOR
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| Subject: Re: SQ style ICE 28/11/2010, 11:26 pm | |
| owh yaka...hehe sbab dulu sya search d website focal suma 2ohm....tpi bukn K2P UV la.tpi memang K2P series.
yg c zac jual tu bukn tngal mid sja ka tu?tau pun tu lain lgi? |
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