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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime5/10/2010, 9:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's
a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play
loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ
system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system,
which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime3/12/2010, 6:38 pm

Boi wrote:
power - rugi owh ko jual dulu..

nizam - ko relax jak. tem mau membeli baru ada rasa thrill. nanti suda ada slow suda ko 2. lepas 2 belajar2 tune. lepas 2 akan ada tahap stress. lepas 2 minta ajar sifu tune. pas 2 pandai suda kacau2. baru la ko bole buat formula sendiri. tapi mesti ada reference. b2l ka power. ahahahaha.. jadi kena ikut flow. kalau laju abes. laju la bosan. last sampai tahap mendengar suda. tukar tune pun kalau ada yang komen. b2l ka power..

haha btl2 tu boi...

haha tu peringkat2 main ice tu pun betul juga

airpulse...tula, kalau ko main ice awal2 kan suda ko dpt bli aku punya speaker, dijamin 100% with money back guarantee, 2-3x byr pun ndapa haha..
pasal amp ko suda ada role model n bukti bah airpulse hehe..jgn main digital ja la skrg ni, AB ok, yg penting dia branded ok udah tu..kalau pakai amp yg malaysia punya kuat tu floor noise nya..

ha pvf216 lower grade than k2p? mana ada...tu bukan professional pun yg bgtau tu, bagi aku they re equally good speakers..kalau td pvf vs focal be tu lain crita, kc lawan la juga mb quart Q series vs focal be...top ngan top, td tu 2nd ngan 2nd..

haha btw its ur own decision la airpulse...apa2 ja pilihan ko, yg pnting ko suka, aku ckp mb quart sbb aku pernah guna dulu..mau tune bagus2 ja la tu speaker kc keluar smua juice nya..tweeternya la kebal, dulu pakai dls nobelium ada bunyi crack ketara kalau dengar bunyi guruh cd tag mclaren track 1...tp kalau mb quart macam teda ja, ada pun sikit ja..heheh...bah baca reviewnya tu german hi fi magazine ka tu kalau nda silap..

tdk mau potong door trim? pakaila speaker paling mahal di dunia ngan amp paling gila pun nda akan keluar sound tu dari sana,...even installer d twu akhirnya potong juga door trim mercedes nya pas dengar aku punya sound masa pas potong & dia d suggest oleh org2 MACE tuk potong..haha..tengok splmag smua kreta rm300k above potong juga.. ninja king yg buat sound d semporna pun potong habis...kc buat cover bah baru cantik..tuk sementara ko buat macam c boi ja dulu..


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power - sedih potong doortrim ku ni, mivec punya doortrim ni Mad dahlah isnin ni aku mo wrapping baru kasi nampak cun balik..apa2 pun, kita tunggu dan lihat, hahahaha Laughing

amp tu betul ko kata macam dlm kereta vios tu haha..a wise path to follow.

ok, so situasinya sekarang macam ni ya:

- power recommend mb quart sebab sesuai dengan rock music
- mb quart pvf216 sell by robert at rm1.4k with postage
- focal k2p uv sekarang tiada second hand item
- k2puv set baru ada, audio creation jual rm 1.5k, manakala robert jual rm2.3k !!!
- sifu ck wisdom word (better spend money on second hand item, for 1.5k you can get better speaker than new set k2puv)
- si boi mo duduk diam-diam di belakang jak
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hehe, lex bah...atau ko bli la 1 lg door trim tuk simpan..ndapa, ko try la dulu main tanpa potong...pastu suda lama2 ko buka door trim ko kejap, n dengar balik prbezaannya..

no comment atas pilihan speaker ko, its ur choice hehe..tp tula...kdg2 2nd hand item terutamanya speakers n sub sgt berisiko tuk rosak..rosak2 sikit etc..kalau nasib baik slamat la ko punya 1.5k..kalau tdk...huhu
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haha..doortrim mivec rare suda sekarang ni (doortrim evo senang lagi mo carik),harga jual pun inda logik oh. kalau sekadar mo simpan satu set not worth it hehehe..

itulah bro, aku dalam delima ni, di persimpangan penuh sukar (aisehmen haha)..

k2puv baru ok juga..kalau tu pvf216 pun ok juga..

tidak apa, bukan mo beli besok pun ekekeke.sekarang saya mo focus tu urusniaga cda9815 dulu, remote control suda urus hehe.stop dulu racun/poison saya ya Smile

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hehe ok bah...ndapa ok juga tu.....hoho...saiz besar ooo
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hehe.bayangkan focal tu sebab kau pernah owned pvf216 party time

macam sub pun ada rupa focal tu haha
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AIRpulse wrote:
power - sedih potong doortrim ku ni, mivec punya doortrim ni Mad dahlah isnin ni aku mo wrapping baru kasi nampak cun balik..apa2 pun, kita tunggu dan lihat, hahahaha Laughing

amp tu betul ko kata macam dlm kereta vios tu haha..a wise path to follow.

ok, so situasinya sekarang macam ni ya:

- power recommend mb quart sebab sesuai dengan rock music
- mb quart pvf216 sell by robert at rm1.4k with postage
- focal k2p uv sekarang tiada second hand item
- k2puv set baru ada, audio creation jual rm 1.5k, manakala robert jual rm2.3k !!!
- sifu ck wisdom word (better spend money on second hand item, for 1.5k you can get better speaker than new set k2puv)
- si boi mo duduk diam-diam di belakang jak


Bro....ko angkat SEA Lotus Reference...dijamin nda menyesal punya....2nd option angkat ja tu AC punya New Old Stock K2PUV....3rd option pg WTB sana Icehifi, Mycarhifi, Singapore sounds system forum...or mana2 forum cari Sea or Focal punya midbass....

Baca ni untuk more insight

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/217405.html

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diyma-sq-forum-technical-advanced/1997-how-focal-k2p-mids-comparatively-seas.html

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ko bah yg patut beli smua barang tu baru kami dengar...ni nda pun pernah muncul...
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ko bah yg patut beli smua barang tu baru kami dengar...ni nda pun pernah muncul...


mana ada duit bro....ni bil internet pun baru ja dpt bayar ni...bil air ama karan balum lagi bayar...astro pun udah kana amaran...tayar kereta pun udah nda rata ada umbak2...macam mau kana tukar absober lagi gaya ni...lebih udah 15000 km lum lagi serbis....susahlah idup sekarang ni...duit kici banar.....ni sa bagi cadangan ja pasal sa parnah dangar bah tu barang....memang ngam kalau main music c airpulse suka tu....kalau scanspeaks nda ngam....
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powerrud wrote:
ko bah yg patut beli smua barang tu baru kami dengar...ni nda pun pernah muncul...


mana ada duit bro....ni bil internet pun baru ja dpt bayar ni...bil air ama karan balum lagi bayar...astro pun udah kana amaran...tayar kereta pun udah nda rata ada umbak2...macam mau kana tukar absober lagi gaya ni...lebih udah 15000 km lum lagi serbis....susahlah idup sekarang ni...duit kici banar.....ni sa bagi cadangan ja pasal sa parnah dangar bah tu barang....memang ngam kalau main music c airpulse suka tu....kalau scanspeaks nda ngam....

thanks andreww, saturang lagi recommend focal

sea lotus ni macam tiada sudah (model lama kali) kalau tengok di icehifi wts thread pun sekitar 2007
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aku sokong focal!! hehheee.. sebab new n magnet besar. bagus ko beli 1 doortrim evo. janganla potong 2 mivec. sayang juga tu owh.. tp good start oo ko punya speaker. xpayah tukar suda 2. biar slow. janji puas ati. tukar set rugi owh..
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Andreww wrote:
powerrud wrote:
ko bah yg patut beli smua barang tu baru kami dengar...ni nda pun pernah muncul...


mana ada duit bro....ni bil internet pun baru ja dpt bayar ni...bil air ama karan balum lagi bayar...astro pun udah kana amaran...tayar kereta pun udah nda rata ada umbak2...macam mau kana tukar absober lagi gaya ni...lebih udah 15000 km lum lagi serbis....susahlah idup sekarang ni...duit kici banar.....ni sa bagi cadangan ja pasal sa parnah dangar bah tu barang....memang ngam kalau main music c airpulse suka tu....kalau scanspeaks nda ngam....

hehe ko ni bah andrew...ada2 ja..tp btl la, kalau menanggung diri sendiri memang susah apatah lg kalau sudah bkeluarga...trpaksa la berkorban hobi yg diminati..

bukan kawan ko ada mau jual seas lotus ka aritu..mau juga aku mendengar n mentest...

aku rasa blum ada yg try focal cni, mungkin c andrew pernah..susa juga aku mau rekomen..tp so far ramai yg pakai la...bah bli ja, baru tu, 1st hand lg..nanti kita tune dia...mau double pedal kuat kan...tp lg cun kalu boleh dapat p80rsii tau haha..suda fikir amp yg sesuai tuk feed tu power k2p? cant go ampless for 100w n above speakers.. thats the reason why i like f#1 speakers...very good sound with low power..senang cari amp bagus..ampless pun boleh...tp harga mau tau la hehe..
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Boi wrote:
aku sokong focal!! hehheee.. sebab new n magnet besar. bagus ko beli 1 doortrim evo. janganla potong 2 mivec. sayang juga tu owh.. tp good start oo ko punya speaker. xpayah tukar suda 2. biar slow. janji puas ati. tukar set rugi owh..

ai, kata mo duduk diam2 jak di belakang hahahaha..

doortrim evo tu tidak boleh masuk satria bah boi, ngam ngan pintu wira jak hehehe.satria ngam mivec jak huhuhu apakan daya..

sorang lg sokong focal, lau focal ni confirm potong juga tu, besar gilak magnet dia

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hehe ko ni bah andrew...ada2 ja..tp btl la, kalau menanggung diri sendiri memang susah apatah lg kalau sudah bkeluarga...trpaksa la berkorban hobi yg diminati..

bukan kawan ko ada mau jual seas lotus ka aritu..mau juga aku mendengar n mentest...

aku rasa blum ada yg try focal cni, mungkin c andrew pernah..susa juga aku mau rekomen..tp so far ramai yg pakai la...bah bli ja, baru tu, 1st hand lg..nanti kita tune dia...mau double pedal kuat kan...tp lg cun kalu boleh dapat p80rsii tau haha..suda fikir amp yg sesuai tuk feed tu power k2p? cant go ampless for 100w n above speakers.. thats the reason why i like f#1 speakers...very good sound with low power..senang cari amp bagus..ampless pun boleh...tp harga mau tau la hehe..

yalah, ni speaker power hungry oh.bye2 ampless setup. tu p80 lama lg available for sale ( atau pun tidak akan available kali hahahaha) tengoklah, kalau keadaan memerlukan boleh juga jual balik tu 9815 hehehe, masih ada market value lagi tu. amp kena fikir kemudian..kalau terbeli focal confirm bangkrap sekejap haha.

erm, Helix anyone? robert recommend, espirit e136.
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Wah semua komen tertumpu dengan hero sekarang ni c Airpulse dgn system double pedals dia tidak lama lagi....mmg ngamlah tu Alpine kena partner dengan focal speaker....n kalau mau kasih partner focal speaker sy cadangkan amp STEG atau Genesis Dual Mono...sekarang dua2 amp ada org jual d icehifi...STEG ada RM2k 2nd hand and Dual Mono Series III ada org jual RM1500 diforum....ingat Series III ni lebih baik dari normal series yang dimiliki oleh c Finalazy tu....nah jadi apa lagi Airpulse...makan terus setup c FInalazy tu...dia punya muzik tu pakai Scanspeaks ngaam dengan lagu2 Opera saja.....org berjiwa lembut....sekali jumpa setup ko telan trus....hehehhe........(saja ni mo kasih marah c Final)...
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haha ok bah airpulse....kami ni tunjukkan jalan ja (bg idea) the choice is in ur hand..
ya bah andrew....tu dls ultimate sama macam design genesis series iii, murah lg genesis, patut harga sama, hmm tula market malaysia ni, potong habis, kalau ikut harga betul komfom ramai pakai dls sbb murah & bagus..for rm1500, it really worth every penny spent.. Smile

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hahaha..aku mampu ketawa jak..

ron95 up by 5 sen
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hahaha..aku mampu ketawa jak..

ron95 up by 5 sen

hehe ketawa napa tu arr sbb naik 5 sen ka...jd tadi malam mimpi beli apa? hehe msti trmimpi2 ni..
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ya, naik 5 sen, cukup uda bajet najib mo cover buat menara dia tu hahaha..

semalam tiada pula termimpi power hehehe, stress ni, hu belum terurus lagi hehe
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ya, naik 5 sen, cukup uda bajet najib mo cover buat menara dia tu hahaha..

semalam tiada pula termimpi power hehehe, stress ni, hu belum terurus lagi hehe

heyy ni la ada2 ja, bgus duit tu d bg tuk org yg memerlukan macam kita ni, mau buat sound kan hehehe

oh blum lg ka...mau tepuk2 bantal sambil berniat tu kekeke
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ya, naik 5 sen, cukup uda bajet najib mo cover buat menara dia tu hahaha..

semalam tiada pula termimpi power hehehe, stress ni, hu belum terurus lagi hehe

heyy ni la ada2 ja, bgus duit tu d bg tuk org yg memerlukan macam kita ni, mau buat sound kan hehehe

oh blum lg ka...mau tepuk2 bantal sambil berniat tu kekeke

sokong2 hehehe..kesian oh ada nafsu tapi duit tiada haha.tula, bonus pun tidak mau bagi, tapi ada pula duit mo buat menara dia tu tongue

barangkali poison blum teruk lagi hehe, tidak pun kaki lupa cuci semalam hahaha

bah, this weekend ko boleh tt ka?
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nizam, kalau betul2 mau angkat K2P, ambikla dari mnkh, 1.5k is very reasonable for a new set. unless u wanna wait and see wat other options available in the future. u dpt contact suda ko punya HU tu?

boi, masih ingat masa ampless tu? sedap gila owh, sampai sekarang aku masih ingat rasa tu. Smile
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nizam, kalau betul2 mau angkat K2P, ambikla dari mnkh, 1.5k is very reasonable for a new set. unless u wanna wait and see wat other options available in the future. u dpt contact suda ko punya HU tu?

boi, masih ingat masa ampless tu? sedap gila owh, sampai sekarang aku masih ingat rasa tu. Smile

buat masa ni mo tunggu dan lihat dulu ck, mana tau ada option lain kan? HU ni entahlah, seller ni macam tidak mo jual saja. saya suda bagi cadangan saya bayar dulu HU then bila dia dah pos dan dapat figure utk postage charge baru saya bayar selebihnya, tapi senyap jak si aman ni Suspect

ck: erm, any thought on the helix speaker i mention?
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ckmoy007 wrote:
nizam, kalau betul2 mau angkat K2P, ambikla dari mnkh, 1.5k is very reasonable for a new set. unless u wanna wait and see wat other options available in the future. u dpt contact suda ko punya HU tu?

boi, masih ingat masa ampless tu? sedap gila owh, sampai sekarang aku masih ingat rasa tu. Smile

buat masa ni mo tunggu dan lihat dulu ck, mana tau ada option lain kan? HU ni entahlah, seller ni macam tidak mo jual saja. saya suda bagi cadangan saya bayar dulu HU then bila dia dah pos dan dapat figure utk postage charge baru saya bayar selebihnya, tapi senyap jak si aman ni Suspect

ck: erm, any thought on the helix speaker i mention?


Sudah sa ckp geng...bagi dia kata dua....'...TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT BILANG".....banyak lagi bah org jual HU bilang...bukan dia aja....Nanti ko angkat tu MX5000 bilang baru dia tau....
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i rasa helix punya speaker not up to standard yet. amp la cun.
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