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PostSubject: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime13/11/2010, 10:01 pm

hai otai2,

o2 sensor akan mngesan kndungan oksigen slps pmbkaran d silinder, skiranya dkesan rich atau lean, sensor trsbut akan hntr signal ke ecu dan ecu adjust spya tembak petrol dgn jmlah yg tepat.

sya ada dngar klu pki emanage, masa buat dyno kita blh tune petrol pada setiap rpm, jdi soalan sya sekiranya tugas mnentukan ketepatan petrol sudah dibuat oleh o2 sensor, perlukah kita tune lgi tu emanage lgi?..tidakkah brlaku clash atau overwrite nnti..

atau pun org yg pki emanage yg tune petrol pada setiap rpm masa dyno tu x pakai tu o2 sensor?

harap para otai blh kongsi skit..
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime13/11/2010, 11:53 pm

mau tnya cep2 yg pandai tune e manage ni...huh..
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime14/11/2010, 2:21 am

o2 sensor masih prlu dipakai walaupn pakai emanage..
sb o2 sensor anta data kpd ecu..
emanage hny mmintas (piggyback) data tsebut utk better fuel consumption..
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime14/11/2010, 9:45 am

better fuel consumption? bkn kuat makan minyak ka?
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime14/11/2010, 12:31 pm

x..pgunaan minyak lebih baik..
pemasangan piggyback (emanage, safc) adalh utk mngatasi
masalh ecu..kdg2 bila mod bnyk sgt macam maen turbo, ecu asal
da xmampu nk mtadbir enjin..jd, piggyback akan mmintas ecu utk
data yg btol..pgunaan fuel pump yg lbih besar jg x mampu dkwal oleh ecu..
bnyk kdai yg syorkan guna management kalau da tukar fuel pump
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime14/11/2010, 12:57 pm

ya btul la tu..emanage tune di stiap rpm..ada 16point semua..pump bsr,tu ecu x dpt manage dgn btul macam standet kilang..jd akan rich sgt tu myk..ada jg yg x pki sistem ni,tp utk dpt ketepatan myk yg baik mmg xdpt..emanage tu bleh bg menjimatkan penggunaan myk sbb kawalan myk yg sesuai dgn tekanan myk dr pump dan injektor yg bsr..jumlah angin dan myk boleh kc seimbang dgn betul
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime14/11/2010, 3:15 pm

buli tahan ko ni bro...
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime14/11/2010, 5:47 pm

btol2...sb utk the best perfomance, afr 14.7 dperlukan..
xnak rich mix or lean mix..silap ari bulan kalau lean, mau tkr enjin baru.. rambo
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime15/11/2010, 12:29 am

o2 sensor yg d guna oleh mira brfungsi pada close loop shj.o2 snsor akn bc kndungan gas exzos n hantar data ke ecu utk inject mnyak yg tepat. mlngnya o2 sensor x dpt broperasi ketika open loop, time tu ecu hnya brgantung kpd airflow sensor utk inject mnyak...(apa pndngan otai tntng knyataan ini betulka?).

sbb tu mngment spt emanage dprlukan utk kondisi open loop kerana time tune tu emanage, wide band o2 sensor yg lbih besar dripada stndard mira dgunakan.

soalan sya lgi skiranya o2 sensor stndard mira dtukar kpd sensor yg support utk open loop..ertinya utk rpm tnggi pun data gas exzos masi d hntar ke ecu dan kmudian inject mnyak dgn tepat.walaupun kita upgrade injector bsar ka turbo bsarka dsb, ecu stndard masi boleh manage system sbb dpt data yg tepat dari o2 yg telah diupgrade tdi.

cth spt tukar pump n injector besar..tntula mnyak pun brlebihan kan.tpi dsbbkan o2 senssor yg support rpm tnggi itu tdi brkemampuan mmbaca gas exzos, maka ecu akan tetap inject mnyak yg tepat (boleh jdi ka klu macam ni para otai, mnta pndangan k tingkiu)
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime15/11/2010, 3:39 am

x bleh jgk tu..o2 sensor bleh baca, x semestinya ecu bleh baca data dgn tepat..stiap ecu ad limit utk mbaca data..sb sbg cth bila ecu sudah dtetapkan utk memancutkan sebanyak A mnyak pd rev XX, ap yg tjadi kalau enjin mmerlukan mnyak sbanyak AA pd rev XX? d sini, emanage mmainkan peranan utk mmintas ecu supaya kuantiti mnyak yg tepat dpancut..kalau nk djadikan cth, xde la otai2 pakai management..hehe rambo
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime15/11/2010, 8:35 am

pendek kata,bacaan yg betul akan dibantu oleh emanage tu..sbb x sokongan lain utk ecu baca data tu..management sbg pemintas yg bgs..
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime15/11/2010, 9:37 am

kalau da tukar ecu macam microtech, masih prlukan emanage x?
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime15/11/2010, 5:26 pm

microtech tu standalone..x perlu lg emanage..standalone sda jd ecu yg memang boleh tune ikut kemahuan tuner dan wiring semua akan dibuat semula..emanage pula sbg piggyback utk support standart ecu dr kilang
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime15/11/2010, 8:20 pm

btul2..wayar d kereta pun jadi sikit...
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime16/11/2010, 12:11 am

oo..ya ka?? ingtkan kalau nk masuk microtech trus cucuk masuk je..
kena wat wiring balik ke??
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ya,wiring semua mst wat blk..wiring akn jd lain dr standet kilang..wyr2 tgl sikit sda tu..pnh tgk d keta2 bsr ja..blum smpi lg ilmu g microtech ni hehe
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime16/11/2010, 6:36 pm

kalau camtu, drp angkt emanage, baik angkt microtech..
function pn lg top tu..hehetp x beruang la
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime18/11/2010, 8:42 am

bel jg ko gna microtech,tp kna jmpa tuner yg bgs..klu piggyback, byk da org boleh tune..mircotech tu rasanya x byk yg tau tune..mo tune standalone bkn sehari boleh dpt..ntah2 lma ko kna tgu..tp hasil mgkin bgs la
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime24/11/2010, 9:46 am

camtu ka?? kalau dpt setting cun, brp hp bleh naik?
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime24/11/2010, 8:18 pm

brpa hp boleh nek tu tgk dr spec enjin jg..apa yg da tmbh..klu pakai standet,cuma tkr tobo dan gna microtech, x jg menjadi tu..kelebihan emanage ni byk..psg 3bar map sensor,boleh sda tune boost tgi gila2..
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime25/11/2010, 8:41 am

oo cmtu pula..nmpak macam emanage lg syok..
lg murah drp tukar ecu..
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime8/12/2010, 4:39 pm

bro nak tny...
klu kerta stndet ja..
tp tukar air filtr ja..
pastu psg emanage..
ada prubhn ka tu ahh..?
lpa dh sy psl pggback nih..
lma dh x bca2 artkl krta..
hehhe
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PostSubject: Re: o2 sensor dan e-manage   o2 sensor dan e-manage Icon_minitime8/12/2010, 8:13 pm

bleh je pakai..tp agk mbazir la..sb power pn up sikit je..
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