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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime7/12/2010, 10:10 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's
a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play
loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ
system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system,
which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambient, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 1:10 am

yala kn power...tapi fikir2 juga ba ni sbab lom buat door panel lgi.nanti mnatau lepas buat bunyi lebih accurate kn nyesal juga...hehe tpi itu 15W kecil ba.klau masih tdk puas hati nanti mau tukar mid susa mau adjust tu door panel owh.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 1:16 am

mana la tau bole jadi 3 way.. 15w x 2. tapi player x support la pulak. hehehe..
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 1:16 am

hehe tu la pasal...bah, buat la dulu apa yg sepatutnya
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 1:20 am

player buli Boi, tpi mau duit amp lgi sakit owh...hehe tpi 15W jadi midrange besar owh...sakit tu pintu kena operate2...hehe

tapi kn, takut juga nanti midbass cantik tapi midrange tdk buli lawan itu 15W...sedih owh.macam tukar tmpat sja...hehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 8:26 am

bah, capat2 kita kc master 2 way, trus main 3 way... suda main 3way komfom tdk mau mau main 2 way balik..tu baru di dikatakan 'different level'
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 10:35 am

finalazy...talampau juga ko antam cross ko punya sub tu macam tu tinggi....sa tau ko ni nda puas hati bunyi mid bass ko bah ni kan? kalau ko cross sub ko macam tu tinggi gerentilah bunyi bass datang dari belakang...ko try dulu kasih dpt the best mid bass sounds u can get from u 15w...before you on your sub....try2 dulu crossover turun naik...dari 80hz pg 100 hz....tukar2 slope and tukar2 polarity on your speaker till you get the best sounds your can get from your mid.....lepas tu ko try EQ....try2 80 hz, Q = 0.5 - 2 and gain ko turun naik sampai ko dpt yang terbaik...on band 1 and 400 hz on band 2., Q = 3 and gain turun naik...
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 11:01 am

WinDu wrote:
wow...from ice to rims....ck r those 18"? have u guys have any experience with alpine mrv-f407 amp?

SPECIFICATIONS

Power Output: RMS Continuous Power (at 12.0V, 20 Hz to 20kHz)

MRV-F407 (CH-1 – CH-4)
Per channel into 4 ohms ........................... 40W, 0.08% THD
Per channel into 2 ohms ............................ 50W, 0.3% THD
Bridged into 4 ohms ................................ 100W, 0.3% THD
Power Output: RMS Continuous Power (at 12V, 20 Hz to 20kHz)

MRV-F407 (CH-1 – CH-4)
Per channel into 4 ohms ........................... 60W, 0.08% THD
Per channel into 2 ohms ............................ 80W, 0.3% THD
Bridged into 4 ohms ................................ 160W, 0.3% THD
Max. Power (at 14.4V)

MRV-F407 (CH-1 – CH-4)
Per channel into 4 ohms ............................................ 120W
Bridged into 4 ohms .................................................. 320W
Frequency Response ................... 10 Hz to 50 kHz (+0, –1 dB) signal-to-Noise Ratio
(referenced to rated power) ........................................ 105 dBA
Slew factor .................................................. ...... Greater than 5
Damping factor ................................................ Greater than 100
Input Sensitivity (for rated power output) ........................ 200mV to 4.0V (1.0V at center detent)
Input Impedance ....................................... Line in: 10k ohms<
Speaker Impedance ............................... 4 or 2 ohms (Stereo), 4 ohms (Bridged)
Active Dividing Network Frequency and Slope ............. 50 Hz to 400 Hz x 20, 12 dB per octave
Power Requirement .................. 11 – 16V DC Negative Ground
Dimensions (W x H x D) ............................... 260mm x 60mm x 330mm (10-3/16" x 2-3/8" x 13")
Weight ........................................ 5.3 kg (11 lbs. 10 oz)

any1 have an estimate 2nd hand market price for this amp??


Sa pernah jugalah dengar alpine MRV ni...tapi which MRV in particular nda ingat pula.....dia guna semua CHAP AYAM, wayar, rca, speaker soma cap ayam...untuk tahap talinga sa kira...okay jugalah....licin alus juga bunyi dia....kesimpulan dia sadap.....tapi tia taulah yg MRV ko tanya ni...since kawan ko punya napa ko tia audit ja dulu d kereta dia? Pasal harga rasanya nda sampai RM500lah tu.....sa cadangkan ko tawar dia kaw2 sampai RM300...hehehe....
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thanks for the input...he already take out form his car...tak sempat mau audit
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thanx andrew...akan ku test...buat masa ni lom pula rsa bass d blakang Suspect even smpai 200hz. rsanya ni mono sya ada adjust crossover d sna.tu la masi kena cut...sya p experimen dlu...hehe
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thanx andrew...akan ku test...buat masa ni lom pula rsa bass d blakang Suspect even smpai 200hz. rsanya ni mono sya ada adjust crossover d sna.tu la masi kena cut...sya p experimen dlu...hehe


set your amp crossover on flat n play with the gain on your amp too
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erm...tadi p tngok tu amp kn, ni profile sub mono kn ada HPF Shocked so either LPF or HPF dan teda normal/flat lgitu. so sya adjust LPF kasi 200hz d mono supaya lebih flexible adjust dari HU...ngam ka konsep tu?
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erm...tadi p tngok tu amp kn, ni profile sub mono kn ada HPF Shocked so either LPF or HPF dan teda normal/flat lgitu. so sya adjust LPF kasi 200hz d mono supaya lebih flexible adjust dari HU...ngam ka konsep tu?


kasih HPF lah....taruh tu dial dia pg yg paling rendah.....ada Bass Boos kah tu amp? sama dia ada boost frequencykah? Kalau ada kasih try main2 sama tu bass boost n boost freq....last2 sekali baru ko main tu PEQ....try to get the best tune from ur amp and crossover point 1st...


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 3 Icon_minitime9/12/2010, 12:29 pm

bass boost tiada tpi ada PEQ (cntre freq, Q factor, boost)...HPF bukn kasi jln high freq sja ka?
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finalazy84 wrote:
bass boost tiada tpi ada PEQ (cntre freq, Q factor, boost)...HPF bukn kasi jln high freq sja ka?


ko main2lah sama PEQ amp ko tu...or disable dulu...try2...but i suggest ko guna dulu PEQ amp ko tu...disable dulu EQ di HU ko....to PEQ di amp ko berfungsi sama macam bass boost and boost freq juga tu.....try boost mid bass freq around 80hz -250 hz....HPF mean high pass....maksud dia ko kasih lalu freq yang di atas point...contoh kalau HPF ko 50 mean ko kasih lepas semua Freq dari 50 ke atas.....kalau ko pakai LPF maksud dia ko kasih lepas Freq yang di bawah....so kalau LPF ko 50hz mean ko block semua yg di atas 50hz cuma kasih benar main di bawah 50hz saja.....since ko punya mid bass suppose to be playing from 80hz to 4 khz....so it just logical that u let pass the higher freq....n block the lower freq....your mid bas cant play them anyway...but depending on the slope you are using too....6db, 12db, 18 db...freq yg kena block tu masih kena main tapi kena attenuate.....

But remember scanspeak mid bass tidak akan making the snappy or attacking mid bass sounds....masih perlu buat enclosure baru ko dpt mid bass yang lebih bagus...
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owh, ingat ko ckp psal sub tdi...hehe sya mksudkan sub ba. monoblock sya ada tu PEQ dan HPF dan LPF. actly mid punya amp pun ada crossover dan PEQ juga.tpi slope fix 12db/18db.tdk sure.susa ba mo adjust dari amp.sbab tdk buli sambil adjust smbil dngar macam tune d HU.amp d boot jdi ko paham2 la sngsara mo kluar masuk kreta...hehe

yalor, kena buat proper installation ba ni...huhu
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hehe final, dtg la kk, kita tune dulu
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sound power 'power' oh hehehe (no pun intended)

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owh, ingat ko ckp psal sub tdi...hehe sya mksudkan sub ba. monoblock sya ada tu PEQ dan HPF dan LPF. actly mid punya amp pun ada crossover dan PEQ juga.tpi slope fix 12db/18db.tdk sure.susa ba mo adjust dari amp.sbab tdk buli sambil adjust smbil dngar macam tune d HU.amp d boot jdi ko paham2 la sngsara mo kluar masuk kreta...hehe

yalor, kena buat proper installation ba ni...huhu


Hahahaha...yalah tu geng...... Tak Tauuu
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power: sa tdk tau lgi bila mo p KK ni...tpi akan pegi juga sbab mo service kereta...huhu

airpulse: sound c power memang mantap ba..hehe

CK, next time TT bwa ko punya accord la.bagi bini ko pkai itu mazda smntara waktu.hehe
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hehe....kamu sys punya blum tune optimum tu, kalau suda msti lg sedap..c airpulse kalau udah bli tu focal msti tu lagu inflames sedap..

hehe "no pun intended" arr bro...good one..

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ala tu focal tinggal mid sja...rm800 + shiping...dua hati mo ka tdk ni...bagus kasi puas2 bikin dlu ni system skrg la kn.
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rudy - haha, saja2 tu..bah kawan2 cuba list kedai hifi high end di kk ni, ada bah barsng si rudy mo cari tu hehehe..kedai yg saya bagi tu terlampau high end la pula.

focal..hehe saya mo dare to be different, haluan kiri bah geng hehehe..biarlah saya kena kutuk karang Laughing

pian - bah angkat ja tu, tidak perlu juga tweeter dan passive, kau punya tweeter tu bagus suda tu.ada juga layan focal dlm group ni Cool
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oh, final mau satu set focal suda ka...hehe nice..

haha, airpulse...tu kadai memang best, cuma nda banyak barang, paling menarik perhatian dynaudio home speaker..4k geng..sama tu mcintosh amp demo set..hahaha..ada udah kawan haluan kiri ni nampaknya..nanti TT ko bawa lg cd metal ko arr...aku mau try cari necrophagist flac tuk kc dengar ko hehe..kalau focal, alang2 nanti smua focal set...baru ada semangat

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kalau fina mau satu set focal, bah angkat last unit k2puv dari AC hehehe..

jadi group ni akan jadi diverse sikit dari segi branding. ada scans,dls,focal,alpine,vifa,hum..apa lagi yak Smile

rudy - entah mana suda cd2 metal saya ni, hohoho..jarng2 uda dgr metal ni, nanti saya bawa album warna biru COB hehe, original cd tu sanggup bah beli dulu2 import haha.
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bah, saya rasa ni boleh selesaikan masalah mana mo letak subs di depan lol!

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