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PostSubject: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 28 Icon_minitime27/1/2011, 7:40 pm

First topic message reminder :

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lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy
WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD  welcome



What is SQ?

There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,transient response, and the list goes on and on.
SQ is a combination of all these technical factors as well as proper
speaker placement and proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 28 Icon_minitime13/5/2011, 1:51 pm

AIRpulse wrote:
finalazy84 wrote:
front stage?tnggal sub sja la kn mo psang?

yup..sub blum ada, dan of course amp hehe.

nasib takda aktiviti hari sabtu haha..

hari isnin ada pula aktiviti sempena hari guru, tapi saya punya cuti suda lulus ekekeke.



Aiyahhh...sa masalah ni tia buli cuti...udah janji ama LIGS mo jual gatah ari satu ni....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 28 Icon_minitime13/5/2011, 7:02 pm

ko bila2 pn buli cuti ba...hehe tpi klau cuti lama2 teda duit lor Smile bila ko dpt turun andrew?mau dngar 3 way passive ba huhu Sad
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 28 Icon_minitime14/5/2011, 7:08 am

ck, im sorry coz i cant make it to ur wedding ceremony, logistical related problem..anyway i & my wife wish u may all ur dreams will come true & live happily ever after...may god bless ur wedding Smile
congrats!!

regards from Tawau

-back to ICE topic - nanti cuti skolah bulan ni aku ada d kk, mari la kita tt ramai2..,barang lama tapi ilmu baru & tune baru hehe,.. balik dari cuti mungkin baru ada barang baru
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 28 Icon_minitime14/5/2011, 5:37 pm

pnat suda aku tune system ku ni...hehe
macam sana2 sja ba...hehe
ba ngam la tu power...cuti skolah la
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 28 Icon_minitime14/5/2011, 8:16 pm

senang ja, ni formula paling senang, ko bawa kereta yg main sound biasa2 (passive) 1 -3 minggu,pastu dengar balik ko punya sound, msti dapat detect tu apa yg terlebih & kurang, baru tune balik, slalu kita terlebih dan terkurang di sound/music openess sama balancing between tweet-mid-bass..haha, ni la parah main active...nanti next project main passive saja..good passive HU with 3 preout (yg biasa2 ja,bleh mp3, usb tp yg bagus sikit la)+ good component + medium lvl coaxial + subwoofer + amp...pasti puas hati hehe..back to basic...tp kalau hi-end passive sampai pakai custom passive apa semua tu lagi la parah dari active hahaha..

c boi paling untung kalau mau start main yg biasa2 sbb dia suda ada F#1, low powered,super good quality component with passive..nice one..



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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 28 Icon_minitime15/5/2011, 12:05 am

rudy, nanti ko mo tolong si nizam tune soundnya...nda sa pndai...hehe buli ka kasi mute tu tweeter atau mid masa adjust TA?

tadi sya sma nizam sja...huhu punya la boring kami...hehe
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congrates to ck..nice wedding ceremony

ur mother pandai oh buat speech, haha..no more pet pet hahaha..lucu oh ur mum. cuma yg bikin spoil tu second half of the band performance entah apa2 sudah lepas tu keyboardist yg saya dan pian panggil G tu (hahaha) tidak sudah main..hebat tu org boleh tiru2 suara penyanyi hehe. yg ganti dia tu syok sendiri jak haha.

ya kalau rudy ada tidak lah boring kan pian hehehe..kami 3 org jak, lepas tu ada stranger lagi di table sama.

anyway, pening juga semalam macm mana mau kasi mute..habis suda semua butang ditekan2 hehe. tapi penilaian awal pian TA ok suda tanpa perlu adjust apa2.cuma ada satu tu bunyi yg tidak tau macam mana mo kasi hilang..hehehe

help needed!
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tdk seimbang tu gain tweeter dn mid ko nizam.macam mid kuat smlm.tpi last2 macam tweeter pula yg kuat.hehe mo cari ngam punya crossover ba tu.lgipun smlm ngntuk suda...hehe ko punya passive ko masih smpan ka?ko nda test pkai tu passive?

nizam punya system suma kena angle.sa rsa TA tdk perlu bnyak suda.bunyi masih tebal.macam kuat dngung tu mid.nda sa tau cmna mo bikin...hehe
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hehe boleh kasi mute, pilih bahagian x over mana kita mau mute, baru tekan bawah lama2, di hu atau di remote pun boleh...ok bah nanti nda lama lg cuti kan..kita try tune2 lagi, btw, kalau midbass kuat dengung, kasi naik pg 80hz baru main slope sana..kalau trlampau boomy, kasi turun slope dari 18db ke 12db ( ni pening sikit sbb org ckp more slope will be lesser boom, tp dia bukan jadi gitu sbnrnya)..sama tu subwoofer kasi 50hz, then main slope pastu main2 gain, kalau nda cukup bunyi gitar bass tu kasi naik ke 63hz then main slope n main2 gain lagi n test2..

trlampau slope = bunyi kecil, tdk luas, tersumbat
terkurang slope = bass teda kick, bunyi terlampau luas dan di bawah
mau cari tengah2 tu yg susah hehe..

TA basic pioneer HU cuba
32.00 - 0.00 tweet
32.00 - 0.00 midbass
0.00 - 0.00 subwoofer
fine tuning TA nanti kita cari sama2 masa cuti..
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pian - gain saya kasi rendah jak, tapi sama2 level, mungkin mo kurang sikit kan gain utk mid? nanti saya cuba tukar tu gain.

susah juga mo ckp pasal passive, suda buat installation kemas2 ni nda suda terfikir mo main passive..hahaha..

thanks rudy..plus one for you Very Happy nanti mau try ni kasi mute..kau punya manual memang teda english kan rudy? banyak manual tapi semua bahasa saya tidak faham hahaha..nasib sudah terjumpa english punya, model DEH-P880PRS, tapi macam sama jak..

semalam itu mid low pass 4khz dan high pass 80hz dua2 at 12db slope, saya ada cuba kasi naik p 100hz masi tebal bunyi gitar tu, kasi 125hz baru ok.tapi macam tidak best suda haha..jadi balik p 80hz, tunggu dulu tuner turun kk cuti ni hehehe. sementara waktu saya kasi minimum itu gain utk mid hehehe..

itu TA setting dlm inci tu kan rudy? ok saya cuba lah dulu..

si boi sudah jalan bah kan? nda sempat ambil cap dia..minggu lepas sms2 dia tiadaa mereply..
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tinggi suda tu klau smpai 125hz.klau ko ada sub nanti ada ruang kosong tu.sbab sub klau naik smpai 100 memang rasa blakang suda tu bunyinya. smntara ini ko try adjust dari EQ sja dlu la.

amp ko letak mna nizam?klau d blakang ko buli simpan crossover dkat sna ja.tpi tdk apa ba, ko blajar2 dlu tu HU.hehe

gain mksud sya dari HU ja ko adjust.pelan2 la.hehe apa2 pn, tnggu sifu kita la Smile

psal slope kn, sya rsa btul tu power. sbab contoh la mid kena cross 80hz 24db, 80hz baru turun tu freq tapi smpai 60hz kurang brabis suda.jadi 80hz tu masih jelas kedengaran. klau 12db sya rsa dekat 1 octave lepas 80hz, myb dekat 100hz start turun dan jatuh smpai dekat2 60hz.ertinya 80hz suda kurang bunyinya.klau 6db lagi la, macam 2 octave tu start turun suda.kali dekat 125hz suda start turun.tapi jauh la jln.smpai 40hz kali baru habis. klau ada sub, bila overlap bunyi, memang kena boost la tu freq.

tapi ini general punya crossover la.sya rsa tiap HU lain bntuk slopenya tu.sbab klau passive kn buli ubah suai tu bntuk slope.
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oh tu tu aku rasa gain mid terover sbb aku rasa ko mau kejar tu vocal tebal kan, tula dia kuat btl tu..tu vocal dekat btl nanti...ndapa tu nizam, setiap speaker lain setup gain nya..terkacau sikit gain di amp pun masalah juga..oh, jangan sampai 100hz tu midbass, hilang suda tu spectrum bass midrangenya..kasi turun gain mid di hu tu n test balik....4khz (actually mid high) tu ngam tuk kebanyakan speaker in 2 way sys..cuba2 juga 18db slope.

TA dalam cm
eh bukan english ka tu manual..seingat aku la masa baru xplore HU tu dulu.

oh blum pasang sub rupanya, lupa pula..pakai ja tu mohawk smntara, HU active bleh manipulate habis, amp cikai pun bleh gila soundnya..

hehe complex ko punya xplanation tu final..aku pun nda phm ni hehehehe...tp rasanya gitulah tu..

SELAMAT HARI GURU KPD GURU2 SEKALIAN...harap2 semua dapat naik pangkat ke guru wibawa atau guru pendita hehe
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dpt suda kdai jual fiberglass resin d kolombong.mura ja lgi tu.1KG baru belas2 ringgit...hehe mau bikin tweeter d sail panel ni.tpi msih lom sure angle yg baik klau letak sana.takut juga nanti tu bunyi kena block oleh steering dn dashboard.nanti org duduk sblah kiri tdk syok la tu...hehe
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Whoaahh...wuii sunyi udah kamurang arr...bah FInal d mana tempat tu kedai? Sa pun mo fibreglassing sendiri ni...syok n puas hati g drpd p kedai...pada hal bukan pun rocket science mo buat tu...susah lagi potong gatah...
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d kolombong. GF sa suda p sna tnya2.ada no fon juga dpt.klau beli smpai 5KG RM9 sja sekilo.klau beli kurang dari tu ada mhl la.dlm belas2 ringgit sekilo.macam suma ada sna tu.fiberglass mat pn ada. yg cement kreta pn ada.nanti next week sa p sna kali p membeli.mo budget2 RM50 ja ni.beli mat, resin dn putty filler.klau tweeter pod d sail panel jadi, sa try bikin sub enclosure d tepi juga nanti.experimen dlu...hehe mo cuti skolah juga.ngam la Smile
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best..ada suda org harapan buat fiberglass ini macam Smile
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bukn susa tu mau buat...snang sja ba....tapi nda cantik la...hahaha
next weekend rsanya sya p kk untuk membeli brg2 untuk projek cuti skul...hoho
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ba, next week kita ber TT la. Smile saturday nite
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Orite.no problem.hehe
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hum...
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'Hum' buli consider spaming.hehe hoho
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alala..jgnlah bah ban saya mod hehehe..

mana la si windu ni..lama tak nampak.
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haha...tlmpau pindik ba ko post...huhu suda la topic kita ni makin sepi...hehe
si windu ntah hilang p mna suda tu...confirm system da lom psang tu...hehe
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sorry geng...lama tak post tau jumpa...baru saja habis busy layan collegue dari kl...sabtu ni tt boleh bah...beritahu time same venue saja
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hi guys...how r u n how's ur system?
tips sikit mau di kongsi..for active sq only..

-sound msti sedap walaupun kita duduk di seat belakang, means ur can hear balanced blend of midbass-mid-tweet...off course a bit boomy sub at the back..(assume that people at the back oso "watching a concert" infront).
-u'll only hear a faint subwoofer sound coming from the back on the frontal passanger seat.

harap ianya membantu sikit2


Smile

jom main passive biasa2 hehe...active terlampau banyak rules n org sq pasti akan komen itu ini n bli lagi barang baru hehe..kalau biasa2 teda org mau komen...
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