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PostSubject: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 38 Icon_minitime27/1/2011, 7:40 pm

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lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy
WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD  welcome



What is SQ?

There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,transient response, and the list goes on and on.
SQ is a combination of all these technical factors as well as proper
speaker placement and proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 38 Icon_minitime5/7/2011, 3:33 pm

naa...otai suda bcakap...memang gitula tu alat2an c ahseng meniun high end 3 way..tp c andrew padam balik postnya ni, hehe takut rahsia tuning terdedah ka tu hehehe

oh tu .gi aku pakai roxio easy media creator
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 38 Icon_minitime5/7/2011, 6:52 pm

klau ada tu alamt mesti senang buat gain balancing kn.huhu

si andrew ckp ikut dia betapa tpi tdk prnah jumpa dia pn...macam mna mau betapa sama2 ni?hehe

ok thanx power...besar pula tu software...dngn speed streamyx skrg yg macam kura2 ntah bila mau siap tu
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 38 Icon_minitime5/7/2011, 10:28 pm

Hehe...bah sa kasih turun ni ilmu magnet berputar peringkat ke 10...kalau mau buat TA ni pastikan korang tau dengar apa itu doppler effect...pg wikipedia cari apa tu erti kesan doppler ..lepas tu korang pg utube cari tu bunyi kesan doppler..dengar balik2 sampai dapat tu telinga n otak dapat kasih masuk macam mana tu kesan doppler punya bunyi tu...paling sanang kalau d kampung2kan...ada budak2 jajal main SPL sistem dua tiga ratus latups2...dari jauh korang dengar bunyi dia tinggi loudness dia makin dekat picthing dia makin tinggi disebabkan tu sound waves dia kena compress oleh pergerakan tu kereta...

sudah dpt menguasai tu peringkat asas..bulilah teruskan pertapaan...ingat ilmu magnet berputar ni ilmu sekalian alam....boleh kasih putar speaker...hehehe...

tapi pastikan dulu tu gain, phasing, crossover semua sudah kena ngam2, kalau mau penumpang pun syok dengar try cari posotioning yg paling syok d dua2 belah..tp kalau d A pillar ni macam susahlah mo dpt positioning untuk dua2 belah......kalau nda ni ilmu magnet berputar tidak akan berkesan...
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 38 Icon_minitime5/7/2011, 10:35 pm

woh...tq...bah skrg buka crita crossover...macam mna kamu tune?apa yg kamu perlu dngar?tonality?
klau sya la kn...noob punya tuning, sya adjust tu crossover main dngar mna bunyi paling clear, tdk sakit telinga...tu ja la sa tau.yg lain2, macam si rudy ckp tu mid naik pegi center cermin, sya masih gagal ni part...tdk pernah dpt dngn crossover sja.last resort sya TA.haha
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sakit telinga tia sakit telinga tu lebih berkaitan dengan gain n point tu crossover ko guna.....tu pada pendapat sa lah...kasih turun saja gain dia...cuba main slope tu crossover...bunyi tajam ni mmg tia sedap...sa paling pantang ni...tia enjoy betul mo dengar....mo kasih ngam tu gain spy tidak clipping guna DMM...guna ni formula V = Sqrt RMS (amp) * Ohm (speaker)...pastikan ko cabut tu wayar speaker ko...kalau nda angus tu..sebab ko kena guna 0 db punya test tones......atau paling senang guna ossiloscope...kalau tada ko pg sana makmal skul ko pg pinjam...hehe...then guna telinga untuk kasih level match dia....

kalau ko mo test tonalit, imaging soma tu guna tu IASCA punya test cd...pastikan ko ada liner notes dia...kalau tada tu liner notes ada CD pun tia guna...(apa2 test CD pun okay tapi pastikan ko ada print out liner notes dia)...
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bunyi tajam yg klau bunyi 'sssssss' tdk natural suda. DMM?apa ini?fuuu ada formula lgi Suspect jdi tu formula mau buat apa?
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hehe na makin kompleks lama2 jadi cornflakes...tia enjoy suda mau main sound...macam ambil phd pula hehe...tula pasal aku mau main biasa2 punya passive ja, smua suda balance, tdk tajam apa semua, cuma masalah cabin kreta yg berbeza ja la ada efek sikit, tp sound tetap lebih baik drp active yg high end tp nda ngam tune..haha, aku paling nda suka la kalau muzik tu nda natural suda kena stretch n skewed tanpa disedari sbb salah tuning & telinga menerimanya sbg sedap n betul suda..skali dgr di rumah eh, napa sound di kreta ni macam lebar/nipis sempit, reproduction apa kalau gini.. kalau di rumah pula dia keluar 'as it is'...tp walaupun suda tune ngam, msti juga ada doubt, ngam ka suda ni, test2 lg smua cd aaarrrh..
i want to enjoy music not becoming obsessive compulsive person ..huhu
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hehe...nanti ko main passive ada lgi tu cabaran baru
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ndala final, ni main biasa bukan mau fikir teknikal2 udah, sama macam aku pasang sound di kancil ku, 'as is' yg penting puas hati n nda sakit hati mendengarnya..
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 38 Icon_minitime6/7/2011, 3:36 pm

haha...sayang owh tu player ko...mahal2 suda...klau macam tu ko cari player yg ada USB la.P99 ka...hehe
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hehe,ndapa, kalau jual tu bleh bli 2 player passive kira hebat juga tu..
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kalau main passive jgn alang2 guna tu passive...minta custome made bah tu passive...tu sana PAC tu org tau tu tune passive...try2lah...or minta AC kasih buat ko passive....pakai capacitor yg exoctix punya...
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hehe, nda mau high end lah andrew...maksudku ni mau quit ice n main yg biasa2 ja asal bunyi & sedap sikit ok la..

andrew..tu seas punya tweeter tajam2 juga kah, kan revealing
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sa lum g pasang lg ni power..sudah cukup puas hati dgn ni scanpspeak...tada peluang lagi mo g test tu seas....
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final..kalau amp tidak overating...tu formula paling selamat mo guna untuk tentukan maximum gain amp ko yg ngam dgn HU ko...dengan cara tu ko x akan kasih clip amp ko...selagi amp x clip ko dpt clean signal dari tu amp...n speaker ko selamat...tapi kalau mo betul2 pasti....guna tu ossiloscope...ko nampak tu signal ko clip kalau gain ko sudah terlebih pusing...tia payah risau sangat pasal load...cos ko guna ) db punya tones...music yang dinamic jarang sekali capai 0db..kalau sampai pun dlm tempoh beberapa saat saja masa dia peaking....
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hmmm...ada mesin ka mo guna tuk tu formula?klau pakai osiloscope ta paya suda pkai tu formula kn?
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Hehehe...mana ada mesin....pakai DMM ja bah....Digital Multi Meter...
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owh...itu ka pula DMM...hahaingat tajuk CD.hhehe
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andrew, di mana ko order tu seas a?
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snyap suda topic kita ni...hehe mau share sikit...tadi pagi sa test2 meniun cam yg ko ckp tu rudy.tpi msih kurang pndai lgi la...tpi sa dpt suda kasi naik tu mid tnpa kasi TA.untuk tlinga lemah cam sya ni sya kasi mute sblah kanan.biar kiri sja bebunyi.bila suda rsa ngam baru on yg kanan. tpi kn, makin kuat gain tu mid makin naik tu bunyi sa rsa. myb sama konsep macam TA? Suspect tpi klau gain mid tlmpau kuat, tnggelam suda la tu bunyi...hehe
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Nah ni ada Seas power...angkat trus....

http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,3032.0/topicseen.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9otRRzU_0CY

just to share Smile
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naaa....CK suda beraksi...hehe
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my new toy...
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ada betulnya tu final..banyak suda tu improvement..oh mau hati2 juga tu, sbb kdg2 kita rasa tinggi tu menipu telinga kita, sbnrnya di bwh tu, macam kena reverse phase punya bunyi..

alala andrew...mahal ni...aku mau yg performance series ja, ni reference gila ni

wow, nice ck
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V6   SQ style ICE V6 - Page 38 Icon_minitime9/7/2011, 6:20 pm

fulamak, DLS A7 ka tu? kan sangat panjang dan berat? was my dream amp last time. haha.
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