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kita crita2 ttg 4AGE dcni...sapa2 ada info kongsi2 lah bersama......thanx..
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   4A-GE - Page 25 Icon_minitime30/11/2009, 10:06 am

any view bout 4a using mivec piston? hehehehe....16v with mivec piston? i need u'll guys suggestion and point of view....16v with a high comp piston? hp? torque? pro and cons?
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   4A-GE - Page 25 Icon_minitime1/12/2009, 9:44 am

kalu itu...mau sifu donjuandemarco of ns performance yg menjawab pertanyaa mu tu shezzo..... 4A-GE - Page 25 620257
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any view bout 4a using mivec piston? hehehehe....16v with mivec piston? i need u'll guys suggestion and point of view....16v with a high comp piston? hp? torque? pro and cons?
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a fren of mine done this b4..

engine specs..

4g92 piston (rebore exhaust valve seat)
FSE fuel regulator
svt 4throttle
aftermarket ECU + standard wiring
standard head(non ported)
oversize throttle body (60mm)
lightened flywheel (HSK engineering..roughly 5kgs)

d results..
torque gila bab's
kakai sampai gear 3(rim15 9jj semislick tyre)

i suggest u use blacktop piston or vtec piston..y?bcos of d weight..mivec is slightly heavier than these two..

p/s my fren have a set if blacktop piston if ur interested..siap ubah masuk 16v..0168295770 - russell..call me if ur interested~ 4A-GE - Page 25 360220
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   4A-GE - Page 25 Icon_minitime10/12/2009, 11:14 am

sell..y most car owner change to svt 4throttle aa?
is it better than bt4throtle?
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4A-GE - Page 25 360220 bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)
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4age black or silvertop 20valve bro..
hehe
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4A-GE - Page 25 360220 bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)

soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


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m_hafiz wrote:
4A-GE - Page 25 360220 bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)

soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


peace....






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betul...kami sokong...tapi bro..manatau waja dia setting berhabis..napatai kita
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bbr 193 wrote:
m_hafiz wrote:
4A-GE - Page 25 360220 bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)

soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


peace....






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betul...kami sokong...tapi bro..manatau waja dia setting berhabis..napatai kita


Yup,tapi kalu 4age yg standard ni mmblast habis tanpa fkir keadaan kereta boleh tinggal jua tu waja bro,))knpa lah sampai bumper tercabut,)...
50/50 kali jua ar kalu dua2 berhabis.
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m_hafiz wrote:
4A-GE - Page 25 360220 bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)

soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


peace....






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yup yg itu lah maksud ku bro,)tapi dari segi ketahanan enjin pula bro macam mana?d bandingkan dgn enjin waja ni....
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4age black or silvertop 20valve bro..
hehe

4age black 16 valve 1.6 yg besa2 ja lr bro blum pasang tuRbo,)...tapi menyucuk juga,huhuhu 4A-GE - Page 25 900701
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blok engine 4age lebih kuat...light metal tu...ringan,ringkas tapi tahan pukul..sebab ford costworth punya racing-road edition bha tu...kenapa pula formula atlantic pakai ni engine..yang 16valve pulak tu...tapi fully modi la...di situ point nya bro..hehe...
bukan mau perlekahkan engine campro-waja...tu pun hebat juga..
mmm...tapi yang penting...lagenda bha tu bro...legend of Hachiroku with 4AGE inside,,hehe.
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m_hafiz wrote:
4A-GE - Page 25 360220 bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)
ni maksud aku bro.
4agze ada 16valve jek....
yang 20valve tu ada kat 4 and 5th generation jak..meaning yang ada vvt punya system dan semestinya 4throttle...silver dan blacktop..
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shezzo wrote:
any view bout 4a using mivec piston? hehehehe....16v with mivec piston? i need u'll guys suggestion and point of view....16v with a high comp piston? hp? torque? pro and cons?
thanks...

sedikit info untuk tuning high CR ( compression ratio )

- berkaita rapat dengan RON/fuel
- perlu di kira dengan formula yang betol..(bawah)
4A-GE - Page 25 3afd933b679b7b20f1561c841867f901, where4A-GE - Page 25 06fef6cf9cd6d4b3c27115712d7f9f89 = cylinder bore (diameter)4A-GE - Page 25 0a9faac9096f735c3f42c9c14414aaac = piston stroke length4A-GE - Page 25 5ed8c6d87dd12484eeb722ffd6b1361c = clearance volume. It is the volume of the combustion chamber (including head gasket). This is the minimum volume of the space at the end of the compression stroke, i.e. when the piston reaches top dead center (TDC). Because of the complex shape of this space, it is usually measured directly rather than calculated.-perlu pakai racing fuel untuk mengelakkan "detonation" pada injin

-sekiranya pakai fuel "biasa" , perlu retard ignition...respon akan lambat,
malah perlu seting "rich" untuk fuel,keburukan dah tentu myk makan kuat dah plug pon hitam..start injin pun agak susah..sangat rugi sekiranya pakai performance camshaft kerana kereta yang
pakai performance camshaft perlu MORE advan kan lagi ignition untuk mendapatkan HP & torque

RON 95 sesuai untuk injin CR di bawah 10.3
RON 97 sesuai untuk injin CR di bawah 11.1

tidak semestinya piston asal tidak power..yang penting tuning harus bersesuaian.. saya lebih suka std piston kerana kita bule "ADVAN" kan
lagi ignition,sudah tentu dapat respon & hp lebih hebat...tapi jangan lupa
fuel pon perlu di tambah..

hepi mod for u all guys...!! Smile
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4age ngam rom 95 ka 97..?bro don jawab lu ehehe...
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4age ngam rom 95 ka 97..?bro don jawab lu ehehe...
ya..bro don jawab dulu..sebab aku pakai 97 skg ni.. 4A-GE - Page 25 459493
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blok engine 4age lebih kuat...light metal tu...ringan,ringkas tapi tahan pukul..sebab ford costworth punya racing-road edition bha tu...kenapa pula formula atlantic pakai ni engine..yang 16valve pulak tu...tapi fully modi la...di situ point nya bro..hehe...
bukan mau perlekahkan engine campro-waja...tu pun hebat juga..
mmm...tapi yang penting...lagenda bha tu bro...legend of Hachiroku with 4AGE inside,,hehe.

yup aku sokong Bro,)...Mmg enjin legend lr walaupun pd abad ke21 ni enjin tu ttp mantapZ!!!.
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spec CR berapa..??
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spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..
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spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..
update lagi....mana taiko ni?
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spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..
update lagi....mana taiko ni?

saya tlg jawab la....16v punya 10.3:1
kalu 20v punya 10.5:1 standard nda ada kacau punya arrr
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spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..
update lagi....mana taiko ni?

saya tlg jawab la....16v punya 10.3:1
kalu 20v punya 10.5:1 standard nda ada kacau punya arrr
tq tq..jadi 20v lagi power?
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tak semestinya..
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tumpang tanya :
1. tu tulang 20v ada 7 bha kan?sebab 16v aku tau 5 dan 7
2. "4age 16V" kenapa smallport besar saiz ekzos window?
3. smallport dan bigport dari segi head, yang mana lebih power?
4. kenapa bigport ada oildrain kat ujung tu?apa fungsi dan kelebihan?
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bod...apa suda injin ko pakai sikalang?
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