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PostSubject: topic MOTHERBOARD   topic MOTHERBOARD Icon_minitime30/12/2007, 10:40 am

AKU USHA MOTHERBOARD NI DALAM MAJALAH PC, MACAM BEST JE.......

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MSI X38 DIAMOND

-Serasi INTEL CORE 2 QUAD/CORE 2 DUO/FSB 1333/800MHz

-Cipset Intel X38/Intel ICH9R.

-BIOS plug n play/antaramuka penurusan DESKTOP (DMI)

-Pengawal USB 2.0/480MB/s/12 port.

-4xSATA II/2x eSATA/kadar pemindahan 3Gb/s/PCle x16 slots.

-Teknologi Viiv /PCI Master v2.3/I/O APIC/ACPI 2.0/RAID ATA Bersiri 0/1/5/10

-Memori 4x DIMM 1.5 Volt DDR3 SDRAM/8Gb.

-arkitektur memori DDR3 Dua saluran .

-Slot PCI Express/Teknologi CroosFire/Sokong Antaramuka Bas PCI 3.3v /5v.

-IDE/SATA terbina/Ultra DMA 66/100/133/ Marvell 88SE61111.

-Cip Audio realtek ALC888/ALC888T/8saluran.

-serasi PCI Express LAN 10/100/1000 Realtek 8111B/IEEE 1394/400Mbps.

-Dimensi 30.5cm x 24.5cm.

-9 mounting.

-harga tak disebut...


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PostSubject: Re: topic MOTHERBOARD   topic MOTHERBOARD Icon_minitime30/12/2007, 9:51 pm

fulamak, gila punya motherboard. graphic card boleh brige 4 oh, soundblaster pun tak perlu beli sudah haha
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Kalo korang perasan kat CIRCULAR HEAT PIPE tu(pic no 2) siap ada secret function

gilo siot motherboard ni

harga dia aku tak dapat lagi

saper yg ada harga dia tolong2 inform kat sini
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mmg cun gila ni mb..bleh tahan klu ada sebiji..nti sa 2lung cek harga..
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ni harga yg sa dpt..mmg kaw..tpi dlm USD$ la..Price Range: $342 - $406..
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nie aku upkn lg pic n penerngn dier... Very Happy

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond

Introduction


Recently, XSR and several other sites
have posted previews of upcoming x38 motherboards, and the MSI Diamond
was no different. Thankfully, we finally have our hands on the finished
article and with some brand new testing equipment, hope to put it
through it's paces. Let's see how it does.
About MSI


"Established
in August 1986, MSI has always upheld the business philosophy
"Award-winning product quality and outstanding customer service." MSI
is a specialist in the design and manufacture of motherboards, add-on
cards, servers/workstations, barebones, communication devices and CE
Products and Notebooks. Surmounting a challenging industry, we've raced
to the head of the pack and are now ranked within the world's top 3
motherboard manufacturers and one of the top 5 server manufacturers.
What's more, MSI graphics card has the most amazing sales performance
over the past years, making it to the no. 1 position in the world for
four consecutive years. Did you know that one MSI graphics card is sold
every 2.8 seconds? So far, there are more than 60 million users
worldwide enjoying MSI graphics cards.
The backbone of
MSI is its fierce dedication to developing cutting-edge products and
technology. Equally important, MSI has integrated a multi-corporate
strategy, consumer insights measure and monitoring, and brand
strategy/management over the years. The best proof of this success can
be proven in year 2005 when MSI Notebook received 4 best performance
awards for exports in Taiwan Innovalue in 2005, making MSI the biggest
winner among all Taiwan companies. Additionally, four of MSI CE
products also received the highest honor Japan G-Mark contest and won
the prestigious German iF design contest."
NB. Information taken from MSI's website.
Features




  • Intel® X38 Express Chipset Based
  • Supports Intel Core™ 2 Extreme/Quad/Duo Processors
  • Supports FSB 1333/1066/800MHz
  • Supports Dual Ch. DDR3-1333/1066/800
  • Dual-Channel PWM design
  • New Circu-Pipe
  • 4 PCI Express x16 slots ( 2 runs x4 speed)
  • supports PCIe 2.0 & ATI CrossFire
  • 2 eSATA2 Support Matrix RAID & Port
  • Multiplier @ back I/O
  • Supports 7.1Ch. X-Fi Xtreme Audio
  • Supports MSI SkyTel VoIP function
  • Supports dual Gigabit LAN
topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Bundle

X-FI Xtreme Audio


The X-Fi Extreme
Audio is the cheapest of the X-Fi and misses out on a lot of the
features of it's bigger and more expensive brothers. However, it's an
X-Fi nonetheless so comes with the X-Fi control panel, giving you
access to the Crystalizer and CMSS-3D surround upmixing. Unfortunately
it only allows you to use EAX 4.0 as apposed to the latest 5.0 HD which
will mean the latest games won't sound quite as real as the Extreme
Gamer or the Fatal1ty edition.
One advantage of the
Extreme Audio though, is the fact that it's PCI-e and can slot into
anything from a 1x port to a 16x port. This makes it much easier to
find a place for an add-on audio card in the ever dwindling world of
PCI support. It's sound quality should also be superior to the onboard
Realtek solution.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond2
The board features 4 PCI-E slots which are colour coded blue and yellow
to separate the first and second slots from the 3rd and 4th. Due to the
spacing between the first couple of slots it seems obvious that MSI
envisaged them being used a lot more (or at least used by larger cards)
than the 3rd and 4th

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-4PCIe

Between the 3rd and 4th PCI-e 16x slots is the name of the board, etched in an odd, hand written style.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-name

In the final version of this board, MSI have dropped the DDR2 support
and simply provided 4x DIMM slots for DDR3 modules. Unfortunately the
colour scheme for the slots isn't quite as good looking as the PCI-e
slots shown above. Instead of the rich blue and yellow, they are in a
pastel blue and pink; oh dear.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-DDR3-2

The CPU socket is surrounded on all but one side by capacitors and coolers for the PWM area and Northbridge chip.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-CPU

ust north of this is the CPU 8pin socket. The board comes with a piece
of plastic filling 4 of the 8 slots so that those with 4pin PSUs are in
no doubt as to where to stick it. Those with the 8pin connector can
simply remove the clip and slot in the cable.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-8pin

One nice addition to the board come in the shape of the "Dual Core
Cell" chip found near the bottom of the board. This allows for
automatic overclocking (if you like that sort of thing) under load
while monitoring CPU cores individually.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-DCC

Another is the LED post display. As you boot up it displays exactly
what is going on at that time, be it CPU frequency check, memory
frequency check or SATA device detection. This little thing is
incredibly useful for overclockers as if an OC is unstable during post,
they can see exactly where it failed.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Post

Also, down by the Dual Core Cell chip are a couple of buttons which are
a life saver for reviewers. They are simply on/off and reset buttons,
but damn is it useful to not have to mess around with case power-button
cabling.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-PS


Not only that but on the back of the board, with the 8
USB 2.0 ports, the 2x eSATA ports, 2x Cat.5 connectors, onboard sound
and PS2 ports is a CMOS clear button. This is another great idea as it
stops people having to open their case to reset it. However, its
positioning, although useful, is a little worrying as it's quite common
for me to reach behind my case and plug in or pull cables just by feel.
I doubt it would take me long to accidentally clear my CMOS, which
might only be a minor annoyance to some, but if you have heavily
customized the BIOS settings, this could be very frustrating.



NB. The button is located between the eSATA ports and the 4 huddled USB sockets.
topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Back
Located at the rear of the board is the realtek onboard sound chip
(though it's unlikely this will ever be used thanks to the included
PCI-e X-FI Extreme Audio card)

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Realtek2


Fintek also plays a part in this board, supplying the
Super I/O Chip which is a controller for all the old school technology
onboard.


topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Fintek


Back at the bottom by the handy switches, are the usual front panel USB and Audio connectors.


topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-USB


Next to these is a single floppy drive connector.

Moving
up the board a little, we have the SATA ports. There are 4 slots in a
pastel purple colour, and two others in red and black and red which
deal with RAID Next to this is the yellow IDE connector; this seems
aged now, but many still use IDE CD/DVD drives so including one is
necessary.


topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-SATA




Across
the x38 Diamond, solid capacitors are used. These tend to have a longer
operational life than conventional capacitors; and they look good too.
Oddly, also across the board there are several MOSFETs which seem to
have been twisted out of their original placing. They are quite sturdy
so it would seem they were put on that way. It just seems strange
because they have guide lines underneath them which they don't line up
with at all.
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smbungan....

Cooling
One of the more interesting parts of the
x38 Diamond is its cooling system which is quite massive. It "starts"
at the bottom of the board with the IDT chip which is covered by a
basic copper heatsink. This is attached to the southbridge using a
heatpipe which is covered again by a simple copper heatsink; though
this one also sports an aluminium top with an MSI logo.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-SB2

NB. For more information on heatpipes, check out our glossary entry here.
Another
heatpipe then extends from this heatsink to the "Circu-Pipe" cooler
which MSI have been working on for many months. This is designed to
represent a breakthrough in Northbridge cooling technology; let's hope
it's up to the task.
It's made up of heatpipes
surrounded in places by a plentiful amount of copper fins. The reason
for it's name is that one of the heatpipes curves over in a circular
fashion.

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Not
one, not 2, but three heatpipes then break away from this circular
heatsink and finally come to rest at the insides of the PWM heatsink
which has many copper fins and an aluminium shroud on top that features
an a beveled "Circu-Pipe" text.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-PWM2


All
of the cooling for this motherboard is passive; not a fan to be found.
This of course means that the board itself is totally silent. However,
it usually means that temperatures on certain components - most notably
the northbridge and PWM area - are hotter than normal due to the
reduced air circulation. We shall see.
Northbridge, Southbridge, PWM and IDT

Because
we were curious to see what the x38 chip actually looks like we decided
to pop the cooler off and take a look. All the chips were covered in
horrible purple goo that must have resembled heat pads at some point.
Once it was all cleaned off we could get a much better look at them.

The one below is the x38 itself. It's the largest of the heatsink clad chips and is the one that sits beneath the Circu-Pipe.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-X38

The second biggest is the Southbridge which sits under the aluminium shrouded, copper 'sink.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Intel3


The PWM area looks quite dainty once the large copper finned block is removed.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Naked-PWm


NB. The chips under the heatsink are the small ones behind the ones marked "R50".

Finally
we have an IDT chip which takes care of the board's clock frequencies.
This one sits beneath the smallest of the Diamond's cooling solutions.
It's the baby of the family.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-IDT


Installation
Installation of the x38 Diamond board
was relatively easy. The large Circu-Pipe NorthBridge cooler caused no
problems for our ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU Cooler, but a more
uniformly shaped tower cooler could have problems.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Clearance2

The memory modules had plenty of room to sit snuggly in their slots. No clearance issues with the GPU.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Clearance3


One
thing I noticed when I first powered on the board. This thing lights up
like a damn Christmas tree! Green, blue and red LEDs.

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topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-LED4
Then
we have the yellow LEDs from the post screen. It runs through CPU,
DDR3, VGA, ICH, CMOS and BIOS. When you windows boot it displays MSI.

topic MOTHERBOARD MSI-x38-Diamond-Post2

Testing
Motherboard
testing is an inaccurate science. Most comparisons between motherboards
(with the same hardware in them) show very little difference in
performance when moving from one motherboard to another. The real
difference is in several things: features, overclocking, temperatures,
cost. We have run several benchmarks to make sure there is no drastic
performance difference from other boards but we have mainly focused on
the real areas where motherboards differ.
The benchmarks run were as follows: 3Dmark06, Everest memory, Everest latency and HDTach.
The test bench setup used for this review was:
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
Motherboard MSI X38 Diamond
RAM Crucial Ballistix 1GB DDR3 12800
HDD Maxtor DiamondMax 20 80GB SATA
Power supply Silverstone Olympian 650W
Graphics card PNY 8800GTS 320mb
Results

topic MOTHERBOARD 3dmark06

topic MOTHERBOARD Everestmem

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topic MOTHERBOARD HDTACH
Overclocking
Overclocking is one of the main tests
for motherboards. What is the max FSB it can boot to windows with and
remain stable? To find this out, I lowered the CPU multiplier to 6 and
stuck the memory divider to 1:1.2 to make sure neither the RAM or CPU
would cause any instability. Then I gradually raised the FSB until it
no longer booted to windows. I then had a play with FSB voltages while
keeping an eye on temperatures. Once I found the max windows bootable
frequency I ran Super Pi 32m to check it's stability; if unstable I
restarted, lowered the frequency and try again.
After
a lengthy testing period I hit a unmovable wall at 470FSB. At this
point the post LED screen said it was the CPU causing the problem so to
test this I lowered the FSB to 450 and raised the multiplier to 7
(making the CPU frequency much higher than 470*6) and attempted to
post. Windows bootable, no problem. At this point I attempted raising
Northbridge voltages, FSB termination voltages, but nothing. I spent a
while longer attempting to beat the 470 barrier, but no dice. I even
adjusted the power option CPUclk settings but that didn't help either.
470FSB
isn't a poor max bus by any means, but having seen other boards hit
over 500 I was expecting more. Although this figure gives enough
headroom for most people, let's hope that this maximum FSB increases
with new BIOS releases.
Cost
The x38 Diamond is going to be sold at around £195 which is the same price the
680i boards went for a few months ago. It seems to have become the
standard for feature full motherboards to cost a couple of hundred
quid. This seems a little crazy, but I suppose if you want the latest
and greatest, you'll have to fork out for it.

Noise and Cooling
Due to all the heatsinks being passive there was no noise from the
motherboard at all. I also took temperatures of each section of the
board by placing a temperature probe firmly against the heatsink above
each chip. This isn't an exact way to measure chip temperatures but it
gives a rough idea.


IDT SouthBridge NorthBridge PWM Area
Idle 31 31 32 33
Load 30 30 31 30


Conclusion
The x38 was designed to be an
overclockers board and although the Diamond does pretty well, it
doesn't overclock quite as well as we hoped. In the future I imagine
MSI will improve the max FSB atainable with BIOS updates and the 470
wall may have even been down to this particular board; others may have
better luck.
When it comes down to it, if you want
the absolute top possible overclock you might want to look elsewhere,
but if you want a motherboard that overclocks well, cools quietly and
effectively and comes with an add-on sound card, you could do a lot
worse than the MSI x38 Diamond.

Source:
Ni LiNk SoUrCe

MSI ProDuCt:
X38 DiAmOnD
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memang best giler motherboard ni cayalah Very Happy
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mmg cun.... tapi ada lagi cun.... especiallly mobo for gamerzZZ... check out Asus punya... sama Foxconn
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mmg cun mobo klau dr ASUS...lgpun ASUS senang ble nk overlocking... Very Happy
yg kt atas tue aku bg smbung yg dh ader kt atas.... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: topic MOTHERBOARD   topic MOTHERBOARD Icon_minitime23/2/2008, 11:36 pm

Old but not bad, and for X38's mobo currently cant found it any cheaper than RM1.1K least not for new unit.
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harga kt malaysia xtau lah...yg aku jmpa kt website, dier bg £195.... Smile
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u just head to lowyat plaza Smile
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dh lama x pegi low yat....huhuhuhu.....
klau nk msuk ke web dier mls la lak....sbb xder bnda nk beli....
stakat nk usha harga leh la... Smile
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oh ya, ada website best for price updating.
get it from http://www.pczonecomputer.com/
look for pricelist download (pdf) Smile cheers
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ok gak kedai tue....
dlu slalu la lepak2 lowyat...xder keje, p lowyat, usha2 harga...skrg dh x pegi...duk kt kg...

pczone ok gak... Very Happy
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ko skg d mana? hehe
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lor.....
kn kt bwh avatar tue ader location aq....

tp motherboard dlu, aku x usha sngt kt lowyat sbb aku pkai laptop...just usha2 hardware tambahan sperti storage portable n beberapa hardware lain..
duk kt kg ne,dh siap 3 bijik pc...just repair jer....pc lama...pkai mobo MSI, ASUS, ACER...
skrg nk siapkn satu lg....lupa dah mobo pe....
yg asus tue nk cuba OC....lgpun brand asus nie senang sket OC....klau brand lain ssh... Smile
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Asus antara yg awal dimulakan dengan Overclock. Tapi skg kebanyakkan jenama lain juga mampu di'Overclock dengan senang. Abit, Asrock, Biostar, DFI, G-byte...byk lagi. Lagipun asus memang sudah famous ngan "harganya"
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mmg mcm tue la.....klau saper2 nk OC tue arap protection utk hardware kene ader....system cooler kene jaga...klau x, mmg risk lah...hehehe... Very Happy
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hehehe, bgs la d semenanjung..brg murah dari cnie konfirm.
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tempat bgs ^^ 2nd hand hardware pun byk seller
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mne2 pon ader kelebihan masing2...klau kt sabah n sarawak mahal brng2 komputer tp barang2 lain lebih murah, sperti seafood...huhuhuhu...
kt semenanjung sbb murah coz ibu negara...kt sabah n sarawak mahal coz kos penghantaran...

srg mobo model mne yg gempak???
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pakalolo9 wrote:
mne2 pon ader kelebihan masing2...klau kt sabah n sarawak mahal brng2 komputer tp barang2 lain lebih murah, sperti seafood...huhuhuhu...
kt semenanjung sbb murah coz ibu negara...kt sabah n sarawak mahal coz kos penghantaran...

srg mobo model mne yg gempak???

tak jugak bro, ada jugak parts pc d sabah yg murah banding ngan law-yat, tak tau lak kalo masa aku pergi tu dorang tak buat sales ka apa ka, pas dari sana aku pi karamunsing murah lagi di karamunsing, yang best nya d law-yat banyak pilihan, mau gila jugak, kalo first masuk law-yat takat 1 hari tak cukup
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its true that lowyat isnt all cheaper than here, ask those pc freak (like me) which do alot price surveying will know
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fulamak....tapi aku rasa lebih bek kamu cek asus......
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