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MINTA PENDAPAT DAN ILMU DARIPADA SIFU2 DALAM BIDANG SOUND NI...
APA SEBABNYA KALAU SPEAKER BUNYINYA MACAM KOYAK DAN MACAM PECAH SIKIT????
ADAKAH BERPUNCA DARI AMP,WIRING,PLAYER ATAU ADA SEBAB LAIN....
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speaker tu dh rosak kot...tukar speaker lain...
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Bro Ben, speaker baru ka tu? hi frequency driver(mid/tweeter) ka lo frequency(sub)?

kalau baru,mungkin antara di bawah:

1. crossover point tdk ngam (hi freq driver).
2. enclosure tdk ngam/port tuning lbh tinggi dari freq. rendah yg driver main (lo freq. driver)
3.Driver tu punya surround/spider delaminate sudah

apapun cuba tanya dgn yang lain utk dapatkan diagnosis lain..haha..
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setting ba tu... mau kasi seting yang ngam2 la... jan over set
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klu x psl setting ko pnya woofer da mslh..
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seblum apapa puncanya..kurik lu telinga bro sehingga bersih.
pastu dengar balik..kalu ada lg bunyi kuyak,terbalikkan wayer
sub tu.kalu mangkin kuat sub tu bunyi,hah..terbalik wayer la tu.
kalu mangkin pecah bunyi sub tu,sediakan $$$ da critanya. apapa
pun tiun lu la bgs..cari yg pakar.
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maksud ko bunyi speaker tu ada distortion??

kalo distortion, punca2 nya :

1. signal ke speaker suda ada distortion. Penyebab nya mungkin player, pre-amp, electronic crossover atau amplifier suda abis napas dan mengeluar kan signal yg ada distortion.

2. Over excursion of speaker. Penyebab nya mungkin overpower atau speaker tu main frequency di bawah port tuning frequency.
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na klu psl2 gni nie mmg dr dlu bro kippo lh yg tau hal gni nie..bro kippo,over excursion 2 apa?
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under18crew wrote:
over excursion 2 apa?
excursion ni adalah ukuran berapa jauh kon woofer tu maju ke depan atau ke belakang.Kalau point-to-point excursion ni ukuran brapa jauh kon tu bejalan dari belakang ke depan.Maximum excursion untuk speaker di beri nama Xmax.jadi apa bila speaker bermain lebih dari Xmax i.e. over-excursion, ia akan mempunyai mechanical distortion or electrical distortion.
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kippo wrote:
under18crew wrote:
over excursion 2 apa?
excursion ni adalah ukuran berapa jauh kon woofer tu maju ke depan atau ke belakang.Kalau point-to-point excursion ni ukuran brapa jauh kon tu bejalan dari belakang ke depan.Maximum excursion untuk speaker di beri nama Xmax.jadi apa bila speaker bermain lebih dari Xmax i.e. over-excursion, ia akan mempunyai mechanical distortion or electrical distortion.

oo mcm 2..thanx 4 the info.. Very Happy
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Devious wrote:
Bro Ben, speaker baru ka tu? hi frequency driver(mid/tweeter) ka lo frequency(sub)?

kalau baru,mungkin antara di bawah:

1. crossover point tdk ngam (hi freq driver).
2. enclosure tdk ngam/port tuning lbh tinggi dari freq. rendah yg driver main (lo freq. driver)
3.Driver tu punya surround/spider delaminate sudah

apapun cuba tanya dgn yang lain utk dapatkan diagnosis lain..haha..

Ada alternatif lain unt masalah ni?
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kippo wrote:
maksud ko bunyi speaker tu ada distortion??

kalo distortion, punca2 nya :

1. signal ke speaker suda ada distortion. Penyebab nya mungkin player, pre-amp, electronic crossover atau amplifier suda abis napas dan mengeluar kan signal yg ada distortion.

2. Over excursion of speaker. Penyebab nya mungkin overpower atau speaker tu main frequency di bawah port tuning frequency.

Minta pendapat dan jalan penyelesaian unt masalah ni?
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Ben507 wrote:
kippo wrote:
maksud ko bunyi speaker tu ada distortion??

kalo distortion, punca2 nya :

1. signal ke speaker suda ada distortion. Penyebab nya mungkin player, pre-amp, electronic crossover atau amplifier suda abis napas dan mengeluar kan signal yg ada distortion.

2. Over excursion of speaker. Penyebab nya mungkin overpower atau speaker tu main frequency di bawah port tuning frequency.

Minta pendapat dan jalan penyelesaian unt masalah ni?

1. Volume, gain, level setting pada setiap alat audio tu di buat pada tahap di mana audible distortion tidak ada.

2. jangan over power speaker ko.
Untuk subwoofer, set subsonic filter jgn main freq. di bawah port tuning freq.
kalo teda subsonic filter, kurang kan gain pada amp subwoofer.
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ni baru la d katakan sifu... Shocked
garu kepla saya tau.. hihihi.. Very Happy respek
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kalu ada jumpa kippo mau saya minta tiun dgn ko..hihihi...
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tapi kalo masih guna 1 pre amp macamana?masalah ni ada kaitanya dengan player kah?
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Ben507 wrote:
Devious wrote:
Bro Ben, speaker baru ka tu? hi frequency driver(mid/tweeter) ka lo frequency(sub)?

kalau baru,mungkin antara di bawah:

1. crossover point tdk ngam (hi freq driver).
2. enclosure tdk ngam/port tuning lbh tinggi dari freq. rendah yg driver main (lo freq. driver)
3.Driver tu punya surround/spider delaminate sudah

apapun cuba tanya dgn yang lain utk dapatkan diagnosis lain..haha..

Ada alternatif lain unt masalah ni?

tapi kalo masih guna 1 pre amp macamana?masalah ni ada kaitanya dengan player kah?

Macam yg bro kippo terangkan tadi, gain setting kenalah di adjust balik dari setiap signal chain. [player-preamp-amplifier-monoblok]

1.mulakan dgn set 0 level bagi semua device ko
2.kasi naik volume player pelan2 sampai dengar distortion.kasi turun sikit itu volume.
3.ulang langkah 2 kepada setiap device (preamp/amp/monoblok) ikut dia punya chain la.
4.last sekali bila suda siap semua di atas, ingat tu volume di (2), jangan blast lebih tinggi dari itu

selamat mencuba.
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GaRRett83 wrote:
ni baru la d katakan sifu... Shocked
garu kepla saya tau.. hihihi.. Very Happy respek

bro kippo 2 mmg dr dlu otai d sni 2..hihi.
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Devious wrote:
Ben507 wrote:
Devious wrote:
Bro Ben, speaker baru ka tu? hi frequency driver(mid/tweeter) ka lo frequency(sub)?

kalau baru,mungkin antara di bawah:

1. crossover point tdk ngam (hi freq driver).
2. enclosure tdk ngam/port tuning lbh tinggi dari freq. rendah yg driver main (lo freq. driver)
3.Driver tu punya surround/spider delaminate sudah

apapun cuba tanya dgn yang lain utk dapatkan diagnosis lain..haha..

Ada alternatif lain unt masalah ni?

tapi kalo masih guna 1 pre amp macamana?masalah ni ada kaitanya dengan player kah?

Macam yg bro kippo terangkan tadi, gain setting kenalah di adjust balik dari setiap signal chain. [player-preamp-amplifier-monoblok]

1.mulakan dgn set 0 level bagi semua device ko
2.kasi naik volume player pelan2 sampai dengar distortion.kasi turun sikit itu volume.
3.ulang langkah 2 kepada setiap device (preamp/amp/monoblok) ikut dia punya chain la.
4.last sekali bila suda siap semua di atas, ingat tu volume di (2), jangan blast lebih tinggi dari itu

selamat mencuba.

ah yg nih betul aku penah cuba heheh ...tp limit dia yg sampai tu barang sudah distortion lah hehe ... tidak boleh blast2 lebih klu tidak nah keluar lah bunyi2 ganjil hehehe
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dlm setting nie tlnga 2 yg msti peka ngan bnyi2 sound nie..bkn sng ja mau setting sound nie.
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Ben507 wrote:
tapi kalo masih guna 1 pre amp macamana?masalah ni ada kaitanya dengan player kah?
uiks... men 1 preamp ok ba...org men 2 bj preamp tuk kc karas skt woofer & kadang2 kalu nda pndi tune, merana woofer ko... kadang2 bny kuyak ni psl karan nda ckp...
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di mana bah nie yang pakar pasang dan tune power_audio di sekitar kk, ada org bumiputerakah ?
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napa berminat ka? kalau berminat ko pm tu street-audio... tau la dia buat ramuannya...
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Perlukah guna amp yg sama brand dgn mid unt dpt hasil yang power?
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nda jg ba... kadang2 bny kuyak kalu tu amp tia support tu mid @ vice versa.... kalu amp yg cikai2, mmng kalu sdh over, pndi kuyak... cb tny bro devious, dia tu pakar kalu hal2 mcm tu....
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