| Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. | |
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arnajmi1 JUNIOR
Age : 53 location : Sabah Points : 12463 Reputation : 0 Number of posts : 121
| Subject: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 29/5/2008, 9:37 pm | |
| Nak tanya semua, apa beza antara Intercooler dengan Radiator? |
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xiaomao MODERATOR
Countries/State : Age : 35 location : Kota kinabalu,sabah Website : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002328674361 Tag ID: : 00735 Points : 14147 Reputation : 24 Number of posts : 7994
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 31/5/2008, 6:30 pm | |
| intercooler biasa untuk kereta turbo...menyejukan enjin...hehe radiator ni ada kipas pun utk sejuk enjin kan..... siapa boleh jawap ni..... |
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darrengt CONTRIBUTOR
Countries/State : Age : 43 location : kota kinabalu Points : 12221 Reputation : 0 Number of posts : 1246
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 31/5/2008, 7:40 pm | |
| saya ingat teda beza yg beza radiator jln air saja intercooler jln angin kan.....mcm gitu lah.....seingatku |
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Altec90 SUPERIOR
Countries/State : Age : 33 location : Sabah, KK, Penampang Tag ID: : SFC 02424 Points : 12718 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 1890
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 17/6/2008, 9:18 pm | |
| Radiator kegunuaannya untuk engine, it for engine cooling system, and it run water to cooling it up, and intercooler mostly, defietnaly for turbo only. and it use to intercooler the turbo air intake. hopefully.. |
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de@@_le$$ ADMINISTRATOR
Countries/State : Age : 46 location : Penampang, SABAH Tag ID: : SFC 01022 Points : 13911 Reputation : 23 Number of posts : 7093
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 18/6/2008, 8:12 pm | |
| ... saya rasa apa yg bro altec90 cakap tu betul.... itu perbezaan nya...!! |
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Altec90 SUPERIOR
Countries/State : Age : 33 location : Sabah, KK, Penampang Tag ID: : SFC 02424 Points : 12718 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 1890
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 18/6/2008, 8:21 pm | |
| ada perbezaan kah, ingatkan intercooler sama radiator tidak sama.. ada juga beza nya..@@" |
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Nieto ADMINISTRATOR
Countries/State : Age : 36 location : Kota Kinabalu Tag ID: : SFC 01287 Points : 13983 Reputation : 34 Number of posts : 5595
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 18/6/2008, 11:00 pm | |
| Intercooler basicly untuk turbo melepaskan panas yang lampau, untuk mendapatkan power yang top. tetapi intercooler bukan untuk turbo sahaja, Supercharge pun perlu intercooler juga.
Radiator adalah penyejuk engine, engine akan menjadi panas disebabkan pembakaran yang dilakukan oleh engine serta friction yang terhasil menyebabkan engine panas. |
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Altec90 SUPERIOR
Countries/State : Age : 33 location : Sabah, KK, Penampang Tag ID: : SFC 02424 Points : 12718 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 1890
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 19/6/2008, 12:42 am | |
| Si nieto lagi gham theory dia kan~ tapi depend la, some supercharge no need. |
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blugu ADMINISTRATOR
Countries/State : Age : 46 location : Kota Kinabalu-Putatan Tag ID: : SFC02202 Points : 12593 Reputation : 10 Number of posts : 2945
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 19/6/2008, 10:10 am | |
| More explaination, - Intercooler is only recommended for turbo/supercharger, this device is use to cool down the air that being boost inside the engine from the turbo/supercharger. - Radiator is compulsary to all engine, its for the engine cooling by using water. Otherwise your engine will overheat. |
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Altec90 SUPERIOR
Countries/State : Age : 33 location : Sabah, KK, Penampang Tag ID: : SFC 02424 Points : 12718 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 1890
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 19/6/2008, 12:00 pm | |
| Yeah, that right. Both SIFU pun gham juga theory dia~ |
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Nieto ADMINISTRATOR
Countries/State : Age : 36 location : Kota Kinabalu Tag ID: : SFC 01287 Points : 13983 Reputation : 34 Number of posts : 5595
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 6/7/2008, 2:41 am | |
| huhu bro blugu, volkswagon beetle x payah pakai radiator lah, hehe... jadi x boleh pakai "compulsary" |
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under18crew SIFU
Countries/State : Age : 33 location : Kota Belud Tag ID: : SFC 02544 Points : 13066 Reputation : 13 Number of posts : 16246
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 6/7/2008, 10:44 am | |
| klu pkai turbo tp x pkao intercooler ble ka? |
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kippo SENIOR
Age : 55 location : Labuan-KK Points : 12041 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 762
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 6/7/2008, 12:11 pm | |
| dua-dua pun sama kerana radiator & intercooler adalah 'heat exchanger' perbezaan nya ialah fungsi di mana ia di pakai. Jadi design dia pun ada sikit belainan. bagi saya, nama intercooler ni tidak berapa betul sebab intercooler ni ada lah 'inter-stage cooler' di mana ia adalah heat exchanger sebelum masuk ke next stage of the compressor. paling ngam nama heat exchanger ni selepas compressor ialah air-cooled heat exchanger or after-cooler. |
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kippo SENIOR
Age : 55 location : Labuan-KK Points : 12041 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 762
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 6/7/2008, 12:12 pm | |
| - under18crew wrote:
- klu pkai turbo tp x pkao intercooler ble ka?
boleh cuma efficiency penggunaan turbo-comp. nya kureng |
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Nieto ADMINISTRATOR
Countries/State : Age : 36 location : Kota Kinabalu Tag ID: : SFC 01287 Points : 13983 Reputation : 34 Number of posts : 5595
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 6/7/2008, 12:36 pm | |
| kalau turbo panas, memang tiada power. supercharge perlu "recycle" power, tak tahu macam mahu xplain, jadi intercooler diperlukan |
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under18crew SIFU
Countries/State : Age : 33 location : Kota Belud Tag ID: : SFC 02544 Points : 13066 Reputation : 13 Number of posts : 16246
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 6/7/2008, 8:59 pm | |
| - kippo wrote:
- dua-dua pun sama kerana radiator & intercooler adalah 'heat exchanger'
perbezaan nya ialah fungsi di mana ia di pakai. Jadi design dia pun ada sikit belainan.
bagi saya, nama intercooler ni tidak berapa betul sebab intercooler ni ada lah 'inter-stage cooler' di mana ia adalah heat exchanger sebelum masuk ke next stage of the compressor.
paling ngam nama heat exchanger ni selepas compressor ialah air-cooled heat exchanger or after-cooler.
dah dnamakn intercooler tkkn kta mau ubah jga kn..hihi. |
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kippo SENIOR
Age : 55 location : Labuan-KK Points : 12041 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 762
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 7/7/2008, 11:14 am | |
| kalau biasa panggil tu barang intercooler, boleh bah kalau diskuss yg besa2 punya. Tapi bila ko diskuss barang2 teknikal lebih mendalam, kena pakai term yg betul la. |
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kippo SENIOR
Age : 55 location : Labuan-KK Points : 12041 Reputation : 3 Number of posts : 762
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 7/7/2008, 11:39 am | |
| - Nieto wrote:
- kalau turbo panas, memang tiada power. supercharge perlu "recycle" power, tak tahu macam mahu xplain, jadi intercooler diperlukan
Turbo panas lagi bagus. Lebih banyak 'energy' untuk memutar kan turbo tu. Turbo = turbine dari Ideal Gas Law, PV=nRT where : P = Pressure V = Volume n = number of moles R = constant T = Temperature dari formula tu, P is directly proportional to T So bila Pressure naik, Temperature akan naik Bila temperature naik, angin density akan kurang (volume naik). Sebab tu 'intercooler' di gunakan untuk menyejuk kan density angin. Bila temperature turun, volume angin yg lebih padat (density). Bila angin lebih padat, Oxygen content dia ada lah lebih tinggi. Bila lebih banyak Oxygen, lebih banyak fuel boleh di inject ke engine (to maintain desired air-fuel ratio). So more fuel mean more power. Supercharger ni ada yg jenis2 gear type, lobe type, screw type i.e. positive displacement compressor driven by the engine. Jadi bab 'recycle power' ni yg tidak paham ni. |
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hustle SUPERIOR
Countries/State : Age : 42 location : telupid Points : 11738 Reputation : 9 Number of posts : 2595
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 7/7/2008, 1:23 pm | |
| uiks na kippo... dr ICE smpi enjin ko kc info.. tabek spring... hehehe... |
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under18crew SIFU
Countries/State : Age : 33 location : Kota Belud Tag ID: : SFC 02544 Points : 13066 Reputation : 13 Number of posts : 16246
| Subject: Re: Perbezaan Antara Intercooler dengan Radiator. 7/7/2008, 4:57 pm | |
| 2lh..aku pn tkjut mcm2 dia tau nie..dr intrnet jga ka dpt 2 info? |
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