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napster
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 |  Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa..  9/6/2009, 3:08 pm | |
| - Nieto wrote:
- yes, viva 3 cylinder, viva 1.0 sama engine dengan myvi 1.0
16v itu ialah valve, misalnya wira 1.6 4cylinder dohc 16v, maknanya 1 cylinder ada 4 valve, 2 intake 2 exhaust. iswara ialah 12v, 1 cylinder 3 valve, 2 intake 1 exhaust. myvi 4 cylinder, jadi dia memang 16v.
ada yang 20v, macam toyota punya, black top. satu cylinder 5 valve. mcmn mau upgrade 1 silinder 3 valve jd 4 valve? blh ka tu? |
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Nieto
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 3:18 pm | |
| kalau macam itu mesti kena tukar cylinder head yang sesuai. sebab valve tak boleh ditambah.
contohlah, contoh saja ah. iswara 1.5cc, 12v. mahu masuk 16v, masuk wira 1.6 punya cylinder head. yang penting dapat cari cylinder head yang ngam saja. pasal kalau saga punya engine, dia satu camshaft saja, jadi dia perlu rocker arm untuk buka itu valve. kalau viva, dia pakai camshaft tolong valve lifter terus, tiada rocker arm. (twin cam) |
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napster
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 3:37 pm | |
| adeh... itu macam ka...
simple2 upgrade ada kah? aku tngk2 topic lain, ada yg tukar head. 4g13p tukar 4g15p punya... plug & play saja ka tu... |
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Nieto
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 4:57 pm | |
| tukar head lah, 4g13 sama 4g15 sama saja bah tu head, 12valve juga. mahu masuk engine lain punya, kalau itu screw ngam boleh lah, tapi kalau efi mahu tengok juga ecu tau. |
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napster
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 5:05 pm | |
| power terus up ka tukar head...?
apa lagi yg simple upgrade engine 4g13p... mau beli dulu sikit2... hujung tahun terus pasang semua... kekeke... kira2 budget sdh ni... |
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xiaomao
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 5:07 pm | |
| - epuldrift wrote:
- kelisa_hitachi wrote:
- hp viva mmg tinggi dari hp kelisa..tak caya p wat dyno
epul..aku d pbuntar skang ni
kelisa_hitachi...
awk ada kat pbuntar ke...
sy kat taiping skrang....
so ape arr nak buat bg kancil 850 belalang kuat lg...
nak bot.. bajet tak cukup lg ni......  x mo bot masuk supercharge...hehehehe... |
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epuldrift
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 5:21 pm | |
| - xiaomao wrote:
- epuldrift wrote:
- kelisa_hitachi wrote:
- hp viva mmg tinggi dari hp kelisa..tak caya p wat dyno
epul..aku d pbuntar skang ni
kelisa_hitachi...
awk ada kat pbuntar ke...
sy kat taiping skrang....
so ape arr nak buat bg kancil 850 belalang kuat lg...
nak bot.. bajet tak cukup lg ni......
x mo bot masuk supercharge...hehehehe... ade org kate supercharge susah nak jaga... betul ke?? bajet supercharge berape arr?? |
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kelisa_hitachi
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 7:58 pm | |
| epul...port head...piston kasi besar... |
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Nieto
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 9/6/2009, 8:18 pm | |
| - epuldrift wrote:
- xiaomao wrote:
- epuldrift wrote:
- kelisa_hitachi wrote:
- hp viva mmg tinggi dari hp kelisa..tak caya p wat dyno
epul..aku d pbuntar skang ni
kelisa_hitachi...
awk ada kat pbuntar ke...
sy kat taiping skrang....
so ape arr nak buat bg kancil 850 belalang kuat lg...
nak bot.. bajet tak cukup lg ni......
x mo bot masuk supercharge...hehehehe...
ade org kate supercharge susah nak jaga...
betul ke??
bajet supercharge berape arr?? susah nak jaga sebab tiada orang yang pandai repair. powerzone ada, tapi last price saya dengar rm7k. tak tau lah harga sekarang. complete full set, plug and play sahaja, tak payah modify |
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kelisa_hitachi
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 10/6/2009, 12:13 pm | |
| 7k??? pegghhhhh...bagus amik seketul enjin tebo...  |
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epuldrift
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 12/6/2009, 4:02 pm | |
| - Nieto wrote:
- epuldrift wrote:
- xiaomao wrote:
- epuldrift wrote:
- kelisa_hitachi wrote:
- hp viva mmg tinggi dari hp kelisa..tak caya p wat dyno
epul..aku d pbuntar skang ni
kelisa_hitachi...
awk ada kat pbuntar ke...
sy kat taiping skrang....
so ape arr nak buat bg kancil 850 belalang kuat lg...
nak bot.. bajet tak cukup lg ni......
x mo bot masuk supercharge...hehehehe...
ade org kate supercharge susah nak jaga...
betul ke??
bajet supercharge berape arr??
susah nak jaga sebab tiada orang yang pandai repair. powerzone ada, tapi last price saya dengar rm7k. tak tau lah harga sekarang. complete full set, plug and play sahaja, tak payah modify betul2 kata kelisa_hitachi.. baik ambik enjin tebo terus... kuat ke supercharge powerzone 2?? ke l5 kuat lg?? |
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Nieto
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 12/6/2009, 4:34 pm | |
| setahu saya, turbo memang lebih power dari supercharger. tapi bergantung juga mana besar supercharger atau turbo. contohnya, supercharger boleh meningkatkan 60% HP, tetapi ia dijana oleh crankshaft so akan mengurangkan lagi 40%hp, kesimpulannya 20% saja meningkat. kebaikannya tidak lagging, tekan minyak terus power.
turbo pula dijanakan oleh exhaust gas, jadi kena tekan minyak dulu baru exhaust keluar, baru dapat janakan turbo, jadi lagging lah kalau macam ni. |
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kelisa_hitachi
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 12/6/2009, 5:17 pm | |
| bro nieto...dari teori tadi mmg nmpak lag...tapi tebo bsr x semestinya power...
kuasa tebo depend pd tebo itu sendiri dgn dijanakan oleh kuasa enjin melalui setting tertentu...
byk da tebo kalahkan supercharge...tapi pengiraan bro tadi mmg betul...s/charge dijana oleh crankshaft...
juz my2cent...nubis lagi |
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onesensei
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 12/6/2009, 6:29 pm | |
| - napster wrote:
- kancil kilang dah tak keluar lg...
dah keluar pun news kat paper ari tu...
Viva punya engine aku tngk 16V Double Overhead Camshaft (DOHC)... DVVT lg... jd lagi power drpd kancil lama 850...
cuba tnya Onesensei.. dia pakai viva... kekeke... jgn la tanya aku..aku xtau apa2 psl enjin ni..yg aku tau tukar minyak enjin,tukar minyak brake,tukar minyak powersteering & isi air bateri..wakakakaka~  |
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Nieto
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 12/6/2009, 7:26 pm | |
| memang turbo bergantung pada setting, saya cuma jelaskan secara basic supaya user lain faham hehehe. bahkan supercharge pun bergantung pada setting juga~ |
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 12/6/2009, 8:59 pm | |
| oooo..sory bro nieto!!!gua slah paham la pula!!!!
korang penah tgk mainan thailand x???
mesin potong rumput pasang tebo n durg bikin race???
gila... |
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epuldrift
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 13/6/2009, 11:25 am | |
| - kelisa_hitachi wrote:
- oooo..sory bro nieto!!!gua slah paham la pula!!!!
korang penah tgk mainan thailand x???
mesin potong rumput pasang tebo n durg bikin race???
gila... biar betul!!!  |
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 13/6/2009, 6:06 pm | |
| - epuldrift wrote:
- kelisa_hitachi wrote:
- oooo..sory bro nieto!!!gua slah paham la pula!!!!
korang penah tgk mainan thailand x???
mesin potong rumput pasang tebo n durg bikin race???
gila...
biar betul!!! ar yakah :shocked: biar btul jga ni  power drng ni klu g2 pakai mesin rumput jak bikin race |
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 14/6/2009, 1:30 pm | |
| race mesin rumput dgn mesin rumput jg..tapi enjin tebo...
haaaaa...terkejut ka???
aku tgk klip video adik ipar aku yg keje d thailand...
gile power beb!!! |
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epuldrift
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 14/6/2009, 1:54 pm | |
| hebat giler la...
macam 2 aku nak tebo kan moto bapak aku leh?? |
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 14/6/2009, 2:43 pm | |
| - kelisa_hitachi wrote:
- oooo..sory bro nieto!!!gua slah paham la pula!!!!
korang penah tgk mainan thailand x???
mesin potong rumput pasang tebo n durg bikin race???
gila... mesin potong rumput tak pernah, tractor pernah lah hehee |
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 14/6/2009, 5:12 pm | |
| - epuldrift wrote:
- ape beza antara enjin kancil 850 belalang gan kancil 850 lampu petak??
ade kwn kate enjin 850 lampu petak kuat lg..
betul ke????
 850 model lama kalau mo buat blok 850 tebo pakai pisten jenis 72mm mmg tahan tapi ada perlu kena gantila, kalau yg 850 model baru yg kamu org bilang mata bulat punya tu hah ini blok x tahan 2 minit saja start enjin sdh air kluar dr ekjos  |
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 14/6/2009, 10:11 pm | |
| - pioneer_syntium wrote:
- epuldrift wrote:
- ape beza antara enjin kancil 850 belalang gan kancil 850 lampu petak??
ade kwn kate enjin 850 lampu petak kuat lg..
betul ke????
850 model lama kalau mo buat blok 850 tebo pakai pisten jenis 72mm mmg tahan tapi ada perlu kena gantila, kalau yg 850 model baru yg kamu org bilang mata bulat punya tu hah ini blok x tahan 2 minit saja start enjin sdh air kluar dr ekjos lembik giler enjin kancil belalang... |
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xiaomao
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 15/6/2009, 12:07 pm | |
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epuldrift
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| | Subject: Re: mau tanya tentang enjin maa.. 15/6/2009, 9:20 pm | |
| - xiaomao wrote:
- epuldrift wrote:
- pioneer_syntium wrote:
- epuldrift wrote:
- ape beza antara enjin kancil 850 belalang gan kancil 850 lampu petak??
ade kwn kate enjin 850 lampu petak kuat lg..
betul ke????
850 model lama kalau mo buat blok 850 tebo pakai pisten jenis 72mm mmg tahan tapi ada perlu kena gantila, kalau yg 850 model baru yg kamu org bilang mata bulat punya tu hah ini blok x tahan 2 minit saja start enjin sdh air kluar dr ekjos
lembik giler enjin kancil belalang...
salah satu sebab pengguna tukar enjin tebo... tp sayang la.. enjin tgh tip top lg.... |
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