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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 24 Icon_minitime26/4/2010, 5:20 pm

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lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy
WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome



What is SQ?

There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,transient response, and the list goes on and on.
SQ is a combination of all these technical factors as well as proper
speaker placement and proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.

From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 24 Icon_minitime9/7/2010, 9:02 pm

kat sana = d mana? grace? ba yala.. dalam jam 9 kan. jadi macam mana sy mau tau sifu yang mana 1?

jd sifu finalazy suda dapat mid yg bagus la ni. tinggal upgrade panel @ box la lg.. supaya lagi up 2 bass. b2l ka 2?

ni lum kena jwb - kalau letak 1 keping soundproof d pintu (blakang mid) ada kesan ka 2. asal
ada kurang la 2 gegar..
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1 keping tiada kesan la, kereta apa? 3 layer baru la. ko sampai sana call aku la. jam 930, bukan 9, nanti ko sampai sana tunggu setengah jam.
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sy pakai viva wana coklat. ko? ok. sy sampai sana call ko la..
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wuinah...best kmurang p dating sound...haha

klau sya, 18w lgi syok.sbab ada potensi untuk 3way untuk future upgrade.klau ada mid range tak perlu main tingi2 suda ba.
dn klau 2way,boleh guna tweeter yg buli main rendah suda cukup bagus.18W boleh pegi rendah dari 15W.ertinya 18W ada ruang untuk tutup kelemahanya...ini pendapat sa la...hehe (pdahal tdk pernah dngar 18W pun) hehe

klau 15W wlaupn bleh pegi tinggi, tpi tdk dpt main rendah.unless buat special door pannel dn multi layer soundproof la.2 pn harap2 dpt respond yg bagus la lepas 2. itu gap dari midbass ke sub bass la yg susa sikit.klo kasi naik 2 sub tdk transparet suda 2 bunyi.

kesimpulanya, i prefer 18w la...hehe cuma teda kesempatan sja. audio creation jual 18W 1.8K.klau awal ada ni brg kali 18W suda ni...hehe
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huhu.. napa x tunggu 18w? bukan apa. ramai d icehifi pilih 15w banding 18w. tp kalau ko mnat 18w. mnatau ada mau trade. topup sikit ka.. kalau sy la.. sub ok jg kasi tinggi.. tp akn buat rasa lg d blakang 2 bass n macam kurang clean. kalau TA ok. mgkin ok jg 2. 2 pendapat saya la.. padahal xtau papa. men teka2 jak. hahaha..
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sya ada try, tpi terlalu bnyak guna TA pula.left right speaker pun kena jauh at least 100cm.woofer pn TA juga...tpi still ta dpt lawan klau main sub rndah la...hehe tpi tak sure juga.sebab masih newbie ba dlm setting2 ni...klau sifu kali boleh la.now sya TA right channel sja.lbih cantik pula bunyi...tpi ada klemahan pada bass la pula.or myb bcos my cap ayam woofer juga...hehe dngn box yg ported tpi sya tutup lubangnya...haha

dulu psal tdk sabar juga ba 2.dn tdk berapa ikut nasihat CK.hehe sbab bila sya bca2 review macam sikit sja beza knon.tpi lain kreta lain door panel ba kn.diffrnt air volume.lgipn sya beli 15W+xt25 dlm 1.6K.ada juga org jual 18W murah2 tpi cpt hilang...teda nasib...audio creation mhl btul pula.
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DLS A3 for sub...any comment?
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hi all, baru balik dari pulau ni...

wah napa smua sebut2 scanspeak ja ni, komfom bleh menang ka kalau pkai scans ni? hehe.. SQ style ICE - Page 24 688737 banyak lg ba yg power macam coucar ka, ameron ka hahahah.

boi-ada stealth soundproof d papar rm35 sekeping di papar..di belakang 1 lapis ok suda tu, mau kc kurang gegar ja kan..3 layer bikin kreta berat ja, btw can u hear the difference?

haha final..u better be quick or those amps will be mine SQ style ICE - Page 24 670947
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haha i know power...teruskan sja power...bila di fikir2 balik, I'll pass la.smpan² dlu duit la..hehe
bgus ko cepat2 book 2 amp tau.A6 suda org book tu.

aku target A6 bah ari 2...huhu
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bah, final mau A3 pula. Smile lebih baik A3 utk midbass. cantik dia punya midrange.

baru balik dari TT. quite a nice one tdy. banyak newbie. ada newbie kaya juga. Boi pun ada pergi, tapi nampak dia boring sikit sbb mereka banyak cakap bahasa cina, sori ya, boi. but at least u learned something. Smile
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kasian c boi...2 la sya bawa bini p TT spaya ada translator...hehe

ya sya pn rsa macam 2 CK.mula2 fkir mau guna smntara for sub...nanti ada duit beli sub dn mono baru kasi main itu A3 amp for mid....tpi dari segi financial macam kurang...so I'll pass la...huhu
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alamak final, kasi tahan saja, beli la tu A3, so damn hard to come across this thing at that price. yg ada di TT tu ada guna DLS A3 juga tapi dia beli abt 5k oh.
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haha...ala kalau ada org book suda ndamau la aku..aku mau angkat dua2..kalau satu ja murah, tpaksa bli 2 lg ultimate ngan harga mahal, bgus aku bli amp lain yg lebih murah 1 brand smua
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Boi wrote:
pergh.. ganaz.. kalau nama VDH memang antara yang kick sda 2.. kalau tweet dls nobelium 2 dalam kategory apa? bright? kalau bright xkasi koyak telinga ok la. kalau telampau tajam adoi.. sudala sy ni jenis yang dengar saun kuat2.. nanti sendiri xtahan..

baru aku buka page nih..tu nobelium punya tweeter bright in the right way..listening fatigue is very2 minimal..aku dulu suka focal k2p juga, tp suda lama2 dgr dls, aku rasa tweeter nobelium la quite detailed, tidak payah tarik eq tinggi2 kasi naik tu treble n tidak overwhelming, ngam2 saja.

nasib ko tdk smpat dgr aku punya mb quart, itu baru kita panggil bright habis..tdk boleh letak crossover point 3.5k, 4k..mau 5k keatas..

btw..aku bukan sifu la..aku banyak membaca,bertanya org n mengaudit kreta org ja.., tu si CK baru the real sifu, lama suda dia main sound tu..quite knowledgeable compared to others..i mean it.
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sya ada try, tpi terlalu bnyak guna TA pula.left right speaker pun kena jauh at least 100cm.woofer pn TA juga...tpi still ta dpt lawan klau main sub rndah la...hehe tpi tak sure juga.sebab masih newbie ba dlm setting2 ni...klau sifu kali boleh la.now sya TA right channel sja.lbih cantik pula bunyi...tpi ada klemahan pada bass la pula.or myb bcos my cap ayam woofer juga...hehe dngn box yg ported tpi sya tutup lubangnya...haha

TA sebelah saja? boleh2 juga la kali..

final, bgus stay on ported enclosure, kreta kita sedan, tidak ngam pakai sealed, aku suda experimen 4 enclosures, last2 try pakai kotak mohawk ori yg ada lubang kecil tu bass suda bleh tarik pg atas dashboard dgn senang..tidak perlu terlalu skema ikut spec..yg penting adalah hasil nya kan, kalau ko jenis mau ukur tu bunyi 50hz-63hz-80hz dgn tepat apa bleh buat, terpaksa la jd org skema hehe..btw dls rw 12 only for sealed box tp aku antam pakai ported haha, tanya c boi macam mana soundnya.
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finalazy.. ko kena test saun powerrud. semalam mau test lagu lenka d kereta ck. sebab lagu 2 yang besa aku dengar. tp dia byk maen lagu vokal. n aku park jauh. xdpt test dia punya midbass. tp tweet morel clear la. tp kalau sy ska yang bright sikit dari 2. i like bass n treble. powerrud. datang kk ba TT. hahaha..
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tgk la hujung bulan, kali mau pg keningau juga
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power: itu box tdk ngam untuk 2 sub.lubang besar btul.box pun besar.dlu msa bli mna la tau lgi psal ni suma...ingat asal ada box ok la...hehe mesti mau tutup 2 lubang.klau tdk bunyi rendah dari 50hz tdk dngar suda.

psal TA, ko try2 la.da ba kita crita psal ni dlu.thread V1.yg sub kasi TA jua tu...ingat ka?

boi: memang mau dngar ni system c power.nanti la bila ada ksmpatan...huhu

CK: memang mau beli ba CK. tpi mau chen susa lor...hehe this month I'll b going 2 KK twice.so bnyak duit guna la.
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boi, aku belum sempat tuning berhabis lagi tu. cuma dapat staging saja. belum lagi mula EQ dan phasing. sub masih rasa sikit dari belakang. next week la kita TT sama final, aku cuba tune lagi. tuning banyak mengambil masa oh.

final, tu tempat TT tak syok la, pukul 12 sudah kena halau. so next week u coming la? we try to meetup if i'm still in KK.

rudy, sealed box is suitable for every car, it depends on the sub. ported can sound well too but much more calculation needed. Smile
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Huiyooo apa khabar korang...punya banyak udah msg...musim ujan bah sekarang ni....ndada gatah dapat dijual..terpaksa bersara dulu dari ICE

Dashat sudah kamu sekarang arr...c Finalazy pun bukan main2 udah...btw finalazy ko cross XT25 ko sampai 1.6khz? Jgn ohhh hancur tu tia lama...kalau boleh cross pg 3.15 khz jalah...the higher the better...tu 15W ko mmg macam tu lah bah bunyi dia tu....kalau ko mo bass karas ambil Focal or Seas...ni macam Scanspeaks or Vifa ni mmg ciri dia berbeza daripada Seas....Ko kasih seal pun macam tu juga bunyi dia tu...cuma may be lebih solidlah daripada sekarang....



btw Boi ko check thread sini DIYMA cara mo mods tu PICO's Fuse punya problem

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diy-mobile-audio-sq-forum/13889-pioneer-rca-preout-noise-prevention.html

Kamu ckp2 pasal DLS sub kan...ni sini ada c TIB jugal DLS UR10 (ultimate series ohh)...sub yg c Scott Buwalda guna untuk competition dulu2 masa dia baru newbie, juara ohh dia...jgn main2.....khekhekhe...RM500 per piece (Ada dua biji tu)

http://mycarhifi.com/carhififorum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6560&hilit=DLS


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CK: 12 tutup ka?ta pernah stay g2 lama ba sna...hehe ba next TT mau blajar sma kamu ni macam mna mau tune 2 segala staging dan etc2...skrg tune ikut sedap telinga sja...haha

Andrew:seal 2 sub ja ba andrew..sub sa ni cap ayam sja SQ style ICE - Page 24 360220
sa tak cross g2 rndah la andrew...hehe mati owh macam 2.suda la teda duit.nanti ancur 2 tweeter tiada bikin beli owh...hehe
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wah power...u buying both the DLS amp?hebat la...mesti mau dngar ur system ni...hehe
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17th i won't be here, can't meet up with u guys. final u organize ur own TT with boi la. he's a nice boy, haha. then 24th we will be having one more and august we gonna have 1 or 2. DLS A3 not bad la for the price dat kevyeoh selling, jgn sampai 5k 1 biji.
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hmmm...cant confirm la 17th...got family prob...see how it goes la...will confirm later.
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http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,2650.0.html
boi, rasanya ni lebih sesuai utk ko kalau scanspeak too soft for u.
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