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ckmoy007 wrote:

lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day.
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What is SQ?

There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,transient response, and the list goes on and on.
SQ is a combination of all these technical factors as well as proper
speaker placement and proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.

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jgn macam 2 ba sifu.. sy la budak baru blajar ni.. sdangkan sifu ckmoy tkar nobelium p scanspeak. baru mau cari2 speaker.. kalau smpat kta masuk la amatur sifu finalazy.. amacam.. bkn mau mnang. tgk sjauh mana syst kta jak ba. kira bayar 2 judge nilai syst kta. boleh ka sifu..

haha, sya bukan sifu la...baru sja blajar ni...CK punya system ada dua suda 2.tpi memang dia minat scanspeak la.dulu mid dia pkai F1 (Scans juga ni kn)...coming soon punya set scanspeak juga...hehe

system sa 2 bro masih teda2 tu...and I dont think will do major makeover lgi.bnyak brg cikai ba 2.amp, sub, cbles suma yg paling teda quality...haha paling kesain sub punya amp la.gain mau 3/4 suda buka.pdhal pegi mid buka paling minimum suda.1/5 la kali 2 sja.

adoi.. mau sy crita setup sy? hahaha.. sy pakai coaxial lagi. paling susah tune. klu saunstage mmg fail. klu sy tkang audit 2/10 jak. ambient sy bg 5/10 la. hehe. woofer pun tube bass. xsmpai depan. ada 6/10 la sy bg. sbb ada bnyi vbrate. n xtra low bass macam xsmpai n bunyi xtransparent. kna mod lg 2 case dia. cable pn dynaudio jak.

kalau sempat bli component n penyertaan berbaloi sy ikut la. kalau mahal buat apa mau ikt. sndri p audit cukup la. hehe..

mid f#1 sy xpasti scanspeak @ x. tp tweet mmg scanspeak. tp tau la noob. bunyi scanspeak pn xpna dgr. hehe..

pelan2 ba bro...klau d tlinga sndiri suda puas baru dngar system org lain.hehe psal F1 sa pn ta sure actly...haha atleast cable ada standard lgi...speaker wire beli d supermarket sja...tpi sambung knon d scanspeak...haha tpi tdk pa la, last 2 cable.barang kasi complete dlu...tweeter sa ni pn macam tdk puas d tlinga ni.mau smthing better.

F#1 semua scanspeak. hanya F#1 ada coating for protection against humidity. lain sikit bunyinya berbandang ori scanspeak. Genesis Absolute pun scanspeak juga, Xetec P6 ni scanspeak 2 way.
aku skrg bukan full scanspeak. i guna mid F#1 dengan tweeter morel supremo. amp helix precision dan rainbow ipaul. simple jak, kalau join pun guna ni join la, hehe. masuk category 2 way amateur. aku skrg kepala besar mau retune system aku. harap la ada improvement. nanti Boi mencaci sistem aku, nangis la, hahaha. but so far not much negative comment la, thank god. lol. nanti sesiapa ada info pasal competition tu beritahu saya ah.

alamak. sifu ck pn ikut amatur ka. alala.. sy dgn sifu finalazy jd supporter jak la aa tem MACE. klu x pn biar sifu ck n power msuk amatur. sy dgn sifu finalazy msuk pro. bole ka 2?? hahaha. sbb suma sifu sda masuk amatur. kami manada can. UMS pun selalu buat petandingan saun. tp xpena dengar pula dorang buat 2k sq. nanti klu ada member orang dalam sy suru bka la jg 2k sq. tp penyertaan mau ada la dlm 5 keatas. 2 yg susah mau cari..

sifu ck. brg ultimate xmau kasi masuk MACE ka? xkn la sy memcaci. sy sedar jg syst sy yg cikai ba. yalo. kta perlu info 2 comp.

hehe kami jadi pasukan sorak la...hehe susa ba mau nilai ni SQ...lain org lain taste kn...kena ada ramai judges la.klau 2 org memang susa 2.org bleh ckp buyers.

yakan. betul jg.. ba kami jd pasukan sorak la.. jd ada 2 la sda sifu2 ikut. ada lagi mau ikut ka? kami tolong jg penyokong. hehe..

sifu ck. pa pandangan ko beza syst f#1 n focal be? aku sebut ni 2 sbb pena nampak d icehifi harga ngam buget n aku xmau upgrade speaker lg lepas 2. aku mau maen 2 way jak. maen active. xmampu bli 2 custom crossover. tpkn kalau xover dia sda power napa dorang mau bg custom aa?? jd xover UV la dia nanti 2. upgraded version..

Boi wrote:

ah leap. ko d semporna kan. sy dgr tghari ni ada ninja king d tpt ah seng pkai processor audison n maen 3 way. adoi. xda kwn sy p sana.. xdpt sy p..

Boi..dulu sa semporna..skrg dah transfer..uhuhuhu..rindu juga ngan AhSeng..sa pnya Installer juga tue..

powerrud wrote:

ya ah leap, itu yang di bg tau ngan aku, berminat? ambil borang sama ah seng, aku suda bg dia...masuk ja kita main2, org main high end mesti takut mau masuk nanti kalah sama sistem murah2 heheheh..kalau sistem high end menang, biasala tu..memang mahal juga bah ck apa lg, jgn sia2 kan ko punya TA2 ngan scanspeak yang hebat tu..

Yabah..mau juga ikut2 ni..lama dah mo rasa ikut Comp ni..eheheh..bah nti aku call AhSeng lah..menang kalah blakang crita bah..uhuhuhuh..

oo.. yaka. sori2.. sy ingt ko d semporna..

kalau 2 way, jgn ambik focal, tu lebih sesuai utk 3 way, dats wat i think la. beza F#1 dengan focal... i rasa focal lebih dry, F#1 lebih warm. 2way, focal hi extension lebih jelas tapi brighter, F#1 2 way tweeter boleh cross lebih rendah. tapi midbass kurang sikit altho it can tarik sampai 4kHz no problem, si final sure tau sebab dia guna juga scanspeak 15W.
barang ultimate aku masuk next system la, tak mau bazir duit atas installation. it's not cheap for the long run. lebih baik buat tuning sebaik mungkin. aku pun tak confirm mau masuk competition, tengok rules dan fees dia dulu. jgn nanti mau RM300 baru boleh join nangis la aku. pokai.
Boi, ko mau main passive ka? susah betul mau buat tuning. di KK tak tau sifu yg mana pandai tune passive system. passive dia power atau tidak aku tak tau la, org buat custom passive adalah utk dapatkan bunyi yg lain, guna semua component yg hi end macam yg audio creation buat. passive focal ku rasa tidak guna component yg hi end altho it has a lot of configurations possible.

yaka? tp rmai recommend 2 focal UV. dry jg? sy mau men active jak. xmau la passive. xda duit. ya AC pnya xover terkenal owh.. ko pnya syst baru mau wiring kaw kaw ka.. huhu.. ribu2 jg 2 wiring..
kalau fee 300 ntah adaka juga orang mau ikut..

pasal K2P UV, susah mo cakap la, personal taste. kalau ko suka system aku, maksudnya ko mungkin tak akan suka bunyi K2P, K2P berbunyi lebih tajam dan bright, tapi midbass mmg kick la. punchy midbass. system baru wiring tak beribu ribu la, hanya 1 ribu lebih jak. aku guna van den hul the bridge utk tweet dan midrange, canare 4S8 utk midbass, dan 10Ga mono strand cable utk sub. power cable ada 0Ga stinger HPM. RCA semua canare GS6 dengan plug neutrik.

pergh.. ganaz.. kalau nama VDH memang antara yang kick sda 2.. kalau tweet dls nobelium 2 dalam kategory apa? bright? kalau bright xkasi koyak telinga ok la. kalau telampau tajam adoi.. sudala sy ni jenis yang dengar saun kuat2.. nanti sendiri xtahan..

ya 15W tdk ckup kuat midbass.so kena bnyak guna eq la.myb klau suda buat insulation dn custom door panel ok la...certain lagu akan rsa sub tdk cross cantik dngn midbass.bleh rsa 2 sub d blakang.ertinya ada freq yg tdk kuat la 2.

DLS bukan Super Natural Sound ka?hehe mesti tdk sakit tlinga 2...jn ja macam 2 xt25 la.tdk rsa suda 1.6Khz.tpi kdg2 ok pula...myb cable la 2...tpi psang kuat pn tdk sakit tlinga la...hehe

ko pnya 15w + xt25? oo.. jd kalau scans apa model yg ok sikit?

scans revelator midbass cantik. tweeter kebanyakan cantik, yg lebih popular tweeter 9700, 6600, 6000, 7000 dan 7100. nobelium tweeter kira neutral la, some said its cold sounding. kalau ko suka pasang muzik kuat, K2P might be too much for u. mau test dulu sbb yg dengar tu telinga ko.

2la pasal kena servay dulu. tp xda yang sy kenal pakai K2P UV. kalau macam 2 sy memang suka yang natural la. buat masa ni macam mid dls iridium n tweet nobelium jak yang ngam d ati..

15W myb sbab smaller cone size...klau 18W rasanya teda mslh...tpi yg bikin takut this speaker is not build for outdoors.jdi kena kasi payung la c andrew bilang...hehe

apa maksud not build for outdoor? not build 4 freeair? @ xtra senstive to water? @ lain lg?

sifu ck. update ttg esk msj sy k. esk jam 7 dari tawau. dlm jm 3 @ 4 sampai kk. then rehat2 n mlm jumpa kamu orang la. kalau mau gerak sama2 dari area kf pn bole jg. jumpa tempat TT pun bole jg..

build for indoor.Hifi rumah.dlm pintu kn humid, pas 2 panas klau kena matahari.klau yg memang 4 cars, memang build untuk tahan itu semua.tpi setakat ini, teda pula dngar komplen psal 2 la...hehe klau suda buat door panel macam CK buat 2 teda mslh suda la.sebab speaker bukan dlm 2 metal layer.plus beter SQ lgi

oo.. sbb ingtkn outdoor ni macam 2 marine speaker. ganaz jgk kalau kreta pn kna pkai macam marine speaker. rpanya kreta pn d pnggl outdoor..

siapa tau brapa harga 1 keping 2 soundproof? yg cap ayam pn bole. ada nampak MBQ ari 2. tp lupa tanya harga. kalau letak 1 keping d pintu (blakang magnet mid) ada kesan ka 2. asal ada kurang la 2 gegar..

sifu sekalian.. napa orang cakap 15w lg bagus dari 18w? yaka dorang cakap saez magnet sama n freq pn sama. n macamna pula kalau tweet + 15w x 2. maksudnya maen 3 way. ni crita2 dari AC (audio creation) la. jd mencari pandangan d sini..

marine audio ni waterproof jak. TT besok kita jumpa kat sana la. balik KF sama2. kalau 3 way scan, 15W boleh main lebih rendah dari 12M, dan 15W boleh sampai 4-5kHz no problem. cuma installation susah sikit sebab 15W tidak kecil. 18W tak dapat naik tinggi, lebih kurang 2.5-3kHz dah habis.