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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 12 Icon_minitime5/10/2010, 9:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's
a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play
loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ
system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system,
which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 12 Icon_minitime18/10/2010, 11:40 am

haha...slalu kita pndai mnyimpang ba...tpi masih juga pndai balik...hehe

btw, susa juga ni mau tune D2...huhu bnyak complicated punya bnda.sub punya bunyi pun suda jdi tajam cucuk jantung...hehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 12 Icon_minitime18/10/2010, 11:44 am

ahaha...boleh cari andrew atau ck untuk tunjuk ajar tuning d2 kau tu...perlahan-lahan belajar
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 12 Icon_minitime18/10/2010, 11:49 am

btw, ini D2 memang cpt panas ka? Suspect macam bikin takut owh
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 12 Icon_minitime18/10/2010, 11:57 am

kau cuba call ck tanya apa operating temperature dia? senang juga ko final
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 12 Icon_minitime18/10/2010, 3:03 pm

finalazy84 wrote:
btw, ini D2 memang cpt panas ka? Suspect macam bikin takut owh


Normal tu geng...tapi tia jugalah sampai masak telur...jaga2 ko silap connection...btw brapa juga crossover point ko punya sub ni sampai cucuk jantung...try2 63hz....kasih 18 db.....
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sya cross skrg
sub 63hz 18db
mid 63hz 18db
mid 6.3khz 12db
high 5khz 12db

skrg ni rasa btul tu bunyi sub msa org bckp.bunyi bilabial rsanya mono mau adjust ni...nanti sa bikin lgi la.baru kcau xover dn TA sja ni skrg
mksud sya cucuk jantung tu sub macam tiada bunyi rendah2 ba.itu vibration macam hilang
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siapa yang mau jual dia pnya rca murah2.. yg penting ngam 2k midbass la..

napa sy punya power cap bole idup aa walaupn +ive x sambung p power.. (reverse function dia sekarang. sebab -ive dia sambung p amp). budu2 pnya kerja. tapi saun macam ada sedap. xtaula kalau perasaan senri jak. hahahah..
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pa mksud ko boi?sblum ni pa macam dorg smbung?klau +ve ta smbung memang idup juga sbab ada stock karan dlm tu.tpi lama2 pndai habis juga.

bukan smbungan headcap +ve pegi +ve di amp -ve ground?taupun klau mls mau bnyak2 ground smbung ja ba d -ve amp.sama juga

skrg ko pkai RCA apa?smpan budget skit2 ko beli tu VDH c MRBEE..hehe mnatau bleh tawar smpai 200 Very Happy
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sy nampak d amp dia sambung 2 wayar. jd sy agak 1 wayar power n 1 dari power cap. jd test2 buka 1. idup. hairan juga napa ada 2. yg -ve power cap dia memang sambung p amp. mungkin memang ada power dalam ba 2. 8.5v dia tulis.

vdh bole ngam utk 2 2 mid n tweet? ck ckp wayar xpyh tlmpau mahal. colored jg. hehehe..
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tdk tau la boi macam mna ngam mksud ko...tpi cable sya pkai itu la.c BEE tu dsprate mau jual brg2 dia.jdi mnatau dpt tawar2 smpai max...hehe taupun ko try RCA dari jepun.
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yalo.. support asian product. canare besh.. hehehe..

siapa tau mana mau cari cd mcintosh test cd, chesky n cd sq yg lain.. kalau xda. image pn jadi la. hhehehee.
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haha..hmm ko punya midbass yg 6.3 @ 12db tu main tweeter punya kerja udah tu, just be careful lah, krg ada yg membeli speaker baru ni krg..

boi, mana suda cd yg aku bg tu? nantui ko ambil dari aku la tu image
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Boi wrote:
siapa yang mau jual dia pnya rca murah2.. yg penting ngam 2k midbass la..

napa sy punya power cap bole idup aa walaupn +ive x sambung p power.. (reverse function dia sekarang. sebab -ive dia sambung p amp). budu2 pnya kerja. tapi saun macam ada sedap. xtaula kalau perasaan senri jak. hahahah..

2nd hand kah? Bekas pakai? Mesti tu charge masih ada di dalam...ko kasih drain dia dulu...




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haha..tdk juga ba 2 sakit 2 mid..nanti mau tune balik.skrg kereta sa pun masih tunggang tebalik lgi.tdi cun2 siap bikin sja.gara2 mncari fuse yg tbkar.haha

Boi: itu canare pun kira standard suda tu boi.mhl juga 2 cable tu.myb boleh try beli yg lom kena terminated.ko tngal beli plug dn DIY solder sndiri.mnatau lebih jimat.
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finalazy84 wrote:
sya cross skrg
sub 63hz 18db
mid 63hz 18db
mid 6.3khz 12db
high 5khz 12db

skrg ni rasa btul tu bunyi sub msa org bckp.bunyi bilabial rsanya mono mau adjust ni...nanti sa bikin lgi la.baru kcau xover dn TA sja ni skrg
mksud sya cucuk jantung tu sub macam tiada bunyi rendah2 ba.itu vibration macam hilang


aiyahhh...finalazy...nda payah susah2...try2 saja balik2 tukar2 sana sini sampai ko rasa syok...tapi ingat untuk dpt bunyi syok bukan sekajap...kadang2 mau berbulan2 baru dpt...sambil ko drive2 pg kk...pelan2 dapatlah tu....

Cuma hati2 jgn telampau blast...active crossover ni masalah dia kalau kita tersalah tune nanti terpaksa membeli speaker baru...sy rasa tu tweet paling penting ko kena tau save region paling rendah dia buli turun...ko checklah graph dia sana madisounds or tymphany punya website...untuk 15W sa rasa tia masalah Fs dia pun at 35...tapi tanpa enclosure susah ko mo dpt juga bunyi bass yg solid tu...try2lah cross at 80 hz....sampai 3.15 khz or 4 khz...sa rasa 15w kacang saja tu dia main dalam freq tu....tia pasti pula tweet ko berapa rendah dia buli turun....tapi memandangkan kedudukan tweet n mid ko yg sangat jauh...satu d atas n satu d bawah...rasanya mmg ada gap juga tu suara.....tapi try2 dululah....

apa pun...jangan sekali2 ko silap sambung mig punya RCA pg tweet punya wayar....benda macam ni selalu berlaku kalau tia hati2.....lagi satu pastikan ko guna multi punya mode.....

btw sub ko kasih through jugalah...


Oh ya btw jgn ko kacau lu tu TA and PEQ....ko main crossover ja lu cukup udah tu....kalau crossover ko semua betul nda payah TA and PEQ pun sedap udah tu untuk daily driving...kalau mau ikut competition macam c power lain ceritalah.....lagi satu kasih cantik dulu frontstage ko...biar dulu tu sub ko...kasih off dulu dia....

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sub suda pelahan gila skrg ni sbab macam mnggangu...ba nanti sa p kcau lgi besok...hehe klau mngikut graph itu tweeter fs:520 nanti sa test pelan2. PEQ lom kcau lgi tu.nanti la.pelan2 sa explore.hehe bhya ba mo kcau tu bnda2 time driving...hehe nda smpai KK nanti sa.

itu 15W masih tdk bgus installation.nanti mau bikin balik la 2.hehe projek time cuti tu mau bikin.
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finalazy84 wrote:
sub suda pelahan gila skrg ni sbab macam mnggangu...ba nanti sa p kcau lgi besok...hehe klau mngikut graph itu tweeter fs:520 nanti sa test pelan2. PEQ lom kcau lgi tu.nanti la.pelan2 sa explore.hehe bhya ba mo kcau tu bnda2 time driving...hehe nda smpai KK nanti sa.

itu 15W masih tdk bgus installation.nanti mau bikin balik la 2.hehe projek time cuti tu mau bikin.


dengan stuffs yg ko ada sekarang pun banyak sudah ko boleh buat tu....installation...sounds proof...semua menelan belanja ribuan sudah tu....speaker cable...sub, sub amp....ribuan dollar lagi ko kena terbang tu kalau mau kasih siap....n nda sedar2 nanti hati ko gatal lagi mau mencari mid.....n then mid bass ko tia cukup kuatlah...pasal tia dpt kejar ama sub di belakang....hehehehe............ada masa juga kena berhenti bernafas sebelum pohkai......macam sa, ni sub yg ke 8 udah sa beli dalam masa nda sampai dua tahun....akhirnya sekarang...apa sa dpt? im stopping to rethink my strategy...bagus guna tu duit beli tanah Wink ...x akan puas2 main SQ ni....ada yg sampai pg loan Bank Rakyat pasal mau kasih lepas gian ...Kalau macam sa ni arap2 tu duit gatah saja...nasiblah arega getah sekarang tinggi...tu pun musim ujan ni mau arap kentalan sajalah....

tapi dengan D2...ada saja benda ko boleh buat setiap hari untuk kasih lepas gian ko....untuk main sub and mid bass ko crossover point, slope and phasing tu sangat penting untuk tarik dia pg depan.....btw ko boleh set tu SUB pg Off sana SUB punya options....
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suda tukar 8 kali sub?adei...gila la macam 2...haha tpi skrg ni punya mesti puas ati ba kn.W7 ba tu...ingin sa mo dngar macam mna bunyi ni sub.
installation sa bikin sndiri sja ni.klau buat d KK kena fikir minyak, tmpt tinggal dn mkn.sa rsa macam sya buli buat 2 door panel...yakin...haha tpi btul juga ckp ko, skrg ni pun sya rsa macam tdk puas hati dngn ni mid.macam ko ckp 2 mau kasi kejar bunyi sub.

ba akan sya main2 dngn tu crossover...sya masih blum cukup gila ba andrew.klau gila nda la sa beli D2.kali P9 c chankeong sa angkat...hehe sya baru cadang mau tanam gatah...tpi mo buka tanah pun mau duit juga 2.huhu

yakan, mari kita loan...haha mura juga tu interest bank rakyat...ari tu sya dpt membeli pn hasil komisyen jual ruma beliau.tpi kijap ja abis.gila la boros tahap maksima.
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suda tukar 8 kali sub?adei...gila la macam 2...haha tpi skrg ni punya mesti puas ati ba kn.W7 ba tu...ingin sa mo dngar macam mna bunyi ni sub.
installation sa bikin sndiri sja ni.klau buat d KK kena fikir minyak, tmpt tinggal dn mkn.sa rsa macam sya buli buat 2 door panel...yakin...haha tpi btul juga ckp ko, skrg ni pun sya rsa macam tdk puas hati dngn ni mid.macam ko ckp 2 mau kasi kejar bunyi sub.

ba akan sya main2 dngn tu crossover...sya masih blum cukup gila ba andrew.klau gila nda la sa beli D2.kali P9 c chankeong sa angkat...hehe sya baru cadang mau tanam gatah...tpi mo buka tanah pun mau duit juga 2.huhu

yakan, mari kita loan...haha mura juga tu interest bank rakyat...ari tu sya dpt membeli pn hasil komisyen jual ruma beliau.tpi kijap ja abis.gila la boros tahap maksima.


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1 hari saja tak masuk suda berlebar lebar kamu punya cerita. ba rudy, nanti kita bincang lagi bila ko dah ready. i'm getting married next yr may.

final, suda pening mo buat tuning ka? haha, last time aku pun begini ba, once u get used to the operations and character of the Hu, everything will be much easier.

btw guys, i got my new car d, damn happy now and enjoying every single bit of it. Smile the spirit of zoom zoom.
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waa...pa kreta CK?diam2 dia ni...mantap la Very Happy

fuuu...tdk lama lgi kahwin ni orang...mantap la
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ko tengok di facebook la, ada sikit pic di sana. Smile
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wah...congrats CK...im glad to hear that...nanti mau cek FB lah tgk kereta baru ko..ok ck nanti aku contact ko lah..

edit....Wow Mazda 6!!! putih juga idaman ko ah...

huhu, dun ever make loan lah juz to play ice..main kejap ja 3-4 tahun...bayarnya 15 tahun...mati..ni nasib aku udah bayar kredit kad ku pas bli nobelium ari tu huhu..

wow c andrew ni memang tahap max udah membeli brg sound ni...aku sub baru 3 x la hehe, speaker 3 x, player 2 x huhu..ya bah andrew...skrg ni pun pikir mau stop la udah..tinggal tu amp ja lg mau tukar.....

hehe teda la bah tu mau tune kc power2 masuk competition..cuma mau belajar ja apa yg dlm competition tu mau point macam mana...worth it la juga tu ilmu..yg jelas main active with staging memang tdk bleh di compare ngan main full tonality with passive...

final my opinion saja..15w cukup mkn udah tu, mau kejar bunyi sub pkai mid memang buat sound jd besar...tp dekat btl..poor points for staging depth..kc terbalik dia-sub kejar bunyi bass di midbass..good luck :-)
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smart ba kn kereta CK...haha

sa pun suda merasa 2 byar card credit beli HU...haha tpi tdk semahal ko la.lepas habis byar suda mau jual lgi...hehe stakat ni sya tdk juga brapa balik2 tukar la.kn sa suda ckp tdk mau tukar suda...hehe tngal buat proper door panel sja ckup suda ni...arap2 la.hehe

skrg ni mau blajar tuning dlu.tukar2 system pn klau tuning noob teda guna juga...hehe

btw tahap ngam max vol untuk D2 brapa?
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aku punya D2 aku tune di tahap -20dB sebagai volume reference aku.
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