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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime5/10/2010, 9:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's
a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play
loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ
system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system,
which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime24/10/2010, 2:22 am

vifa to home audio punya driver.sma macam scanspeak.bunyi natural juga.cuma vifa dngn scanspeak macam toyota dngn lexus la.scanspeak higher end banding vifa.tpi vifa pun not bad.lom pernah dngar mid vifa.prnah pkai tweeter vifa sja.yg ko dngar d kereta sa dulu d kngau tu vifa la 2.higher extntion ada kurang sikit.tpi klau guna driver yg lain2 yg bagus punya tdk brapa rasa suda.yg ini komen untuk xt25 la.overall in term of clarity memang bagus la.

btw, thanx ck.memang cpat ba ko tune.tmbah detail suda.later I buy u some drinks.we go yumcha...hehe

p.s. ur car punya syok...huhu mantap abis ba.after few years klau mau bikin audio bagus buat tmpat ah seng la.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime24/10/2010, 8:07 am

Geng....ada bah component speakers vifa yg design khas for cars....ada two ways and ada juga 3 ways....malahan sa rasa Vifa is the 1st to introduce speaker design with intenal amp and crossover inside the speakers basket....ko tia picaya ko googlelah or pg tingu sana Fuji...dorang jual dalam cermin sama2 dengan DLS speakers and amp (it was almost 5 years ago...when Vifa was still called Vifa and their factory was still operating in China, tia taulah masih adakah tidak sekarang ni)....tu pekerja dia mati2 ckp it one of the best....and one of their highest end sells there....and the price is expensivelah.....and no im not talking about co-axial...normal component pun ada jugalah...

Kalau tingu dari segi faedah mmg baguslah ada internal amp and crossover sekali dalam satu speaker....tia payah mau beli amp besar2 and crossover susah2 mau settings....ngam untuk normal car audio enthusiast kali...tia akan berlaku kes under or over powering atau kasih salah settings tu crossover point...tidak taking many spaces too....tapi...................

Bagus tia bagus, sama ada buli cukup kasih puas korang punya high end ear tia taulah....tia pernah dengar....setau sa yg car driver dia ni kena buat masa dorang d china dulu...kalau barang made in china ni.....adalah cerita2 tu d belakang hehe...tapi....

apa pun sa cadangkan ko try geng...kalau bagus or tia bagus reportlah di sini untuk kemajuan SQ kita d Sabah...hehehehehe rambo

Nasib Vifa ni lepas kena beli Tymphany macam nasib Compaq kena beli HP....kena downgrade jadi dorang punya lower end model....tapi mmg betul pun scanspeaks sounds much better than Vifa....tapi for the price you cant beat Vifa...anyway kalau korang baca history dorang...macam adik beradik bah ja dorang ni....members of a family punya company...tu ring radiator yg scanspeaks revelator guna tu sebenarnya berasal daripada Vifa XT25...
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime24/10/2010, 10:11 am

Andreww wrote:
Geng....ada bah component speakers vifa yg design khas for cars....ada two ways and ada juga 3 ways....malahan sa rasa Vifa is the 1st to introduce speaker design with intenal amp and crossover inside the speakers basket....ko tia picaya ko googlelah or pg tingu sana Fuji...dorang jual dalam cermin sama2 dengan DLS speakers and amp (it was almost 5 years ago...when Vifa was still called Vifa and their factory was still operating in China, tia taulah masih adakah tidak sekarang ni)....tu pekerja dia mati2 ckp it one of the best....and one of their highest end sells there....and the price is expensivelah.....and no im not talking about co-axial...normal component pun ada jugalah...

Kalau tingu dari segi faedah mmg baguslah ada internal amp and crossover sekali dalam satu speaker....tia payah mau beli amp besar2 and crossover susah2 mau settings....ngam untuk normal car audio enthusiast kali...tia akan berlaku kes under or over powering atau kasih salah settings tu crossover point...tidak taking many spaces too....tapi...................

Bagus tia bagus, sama ada buli cukup kasih puas korang punya high end ear tia taulah....tia pernah dengar....setau sa yg car driver dia ni kena buat masa dorang d china dulu...kalau barang made in china ni.....adalah cerita2 tu d belakang hehe...tapi....

apa pun sa cadangkan ko try geng...kalau bagus or tia bagus reportlah di sini untuk kemajuan SQ kita d Sabah...hehehehehe rambo

Nasib Vifa ni lepas kena beli Tymphany macam nasib Compaq kena beli HP....kena downgrade jadi dorang punya lower end model....tapi mmg betul pun scanspeaks sounds much better than Vifa....tapi for the price you cant beat Vifa...anyway kalau korang baca history dorang...macam adik beradik bah ja dorang ni....members of a family punya company...tu ring radiator yg scanspeaks revelator guna tu sebenarnya berasal daripada Vifa XT25...

yg geng..vifa yg saya nampak tu ada di fuji..macam di fuji ja saya pernah nampak..mati2 saya pulas2 kepala saya mau tingok itu model made in mana tapi tidak berjaya hahaha..nampak kotak ja tulis Vifa dan bawahnya denmark..

ohh ada built in amp suda? bagus tu..saya rasa memang ok suda tu, telinga saya bukan high end macam telinga kawan2 kita di sini hahaha
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Bro boleh minta test dengar bah tu....untuk harga tu sa cadangkan ko banding dengar dgn DLS , Vifa and Alpine....okay bah pekerja dia tu...cari c Ah Yong...hehehehe....jgn ja kena macam c Finalazy....tapikan beli 1st hand ni kadang2 rugi terutama kalau beli d Sabah...cos overprice, no warranty and not on par....lagi teruk kalau kena nasib macam c FInalazy...sa ketawa sajalah dalam ati....kekeke...

Kalau sa google sa dpt kesimpulan tu benda kena buat d China...tapi apa pun that speakers come complete with brochure and explaination about their technology and claiming that it is made in Denmark...apa pun dint really do research...I suggest you do research and pg test dengar....mana tau ngam2 ama ko....tia payahlah susah2 beli amp, rca, speakers cable or tukar HU....nda payah susah2 mau tune2 sana sini....tapi sa rasa power amp dia tu sama ja power macam yg built in dalam HU dalam 25 W RMS macam tu kali....
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Andreww wrote:
Bro boleh minta test dengar bah tu....untuk harga tu sa cadangkan ko banding dengar dgn DLS , Vifa and Alpine....okay bah pekerja dia tu...cari c Ah Yong...hehehehe....jgn ja kena macam c Finalazy....tapikan beli 1st hand ni kadang2 rugi terutama kalau beli d Sabah...cos overprice, no warranty and not on par....lagi teruk kalau kena nasib macam c FInalazy...sa ketawa sajalah dalam ati....kekeke...

Kalau sa google sa dpt kesimpulan tu benda kena buat d China...tapi apa pun that speakers come complete with brochure and explaination about their technology and claiming that it is made in Denmark...apa pun dint really do research...I suggest you do research and pg test dengar....mana tau ngam2 ama ko....tia payahlah susah2 beli amp, rca, speakers cable or tukar HU....nda payah susah2 mau tune2 sana sini....tapi sa rasa power amp dia tu sama ja power macam yg built in dalam HU dalam 25 W RMS macam tu kali....

eii...pa pula yg macam sya ni?lom pula ada brg sa beli yg rosak Suspect palis2 la.jgn sja tiba2 rosak.huhu
sa ada round tdi d fuji.ada sya nmpak tu vifa.hehe tpi memang mhl la. dngn arga tu klau compete set mid n tweeter macam buli beli yg lgi bagus klau used set.memang teda warranty la klau used set ni.main gamble sja.hehe make sure tnya ada warranty la tu speaker d fuji.nanti macam tu DLS kena ckp teda waranty susa lgi.myb sbab main active ba.tu la void suda.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime24/10/2010, 7:03 pm

ck - ko prefer aku pnya bunyi sebelum ni (with power cap) @ sekarang (w/o power cap).

final - dapat solve ka 2 sub? aku rasa kalau ko swap dgn tweet scans c ck pn ok ba. ko minat warm kan. aku rasa jadi macam semalam sebab 2 yg d best utk setup ko. aku rasa la. drpd smlm pn ko dapat tau kn sy ni noob bab setting. harap orang jak. hahahaa.

tapi jauh oo besa pakai n xpakai power cap. clear abes. rasa macam terlebih silencer. hehehe..
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Andreww wrote:
Bro boleh minta test dengar bah tu....untuk harga tu sa cadangkan ko banding dengar dgn DLS , Vifa and Alpine....okay bah pekerja dia tu...cari c Ah Yong...hehehehe....jgn ja kena macam c Finalazy....tapikan beli 1st hand ni kadang2 rugi terutama kalau beli d Sabah...cos overprice, no warranty and not on par....lagi teruk kalau kena nasib macam c FInalazy...sa ketawa sajalah dalam ati....kekeke...

Kalau sa google sa dpt kesimpulan tu benda kena buat d China...tapi apa pun that speakers come complete with brochure and explaination about their technology and claiming that it is made in Denmark...apa pun dint really do research...I suggest you do research and pg test dengar....mana tau ngam2 ama ko....tia payahlah susah2 beli amp, rca, speakers cable or tukar HU....nda payah susah2 mau tune2 sana sini....tapi sa rasa power amp dia tu sama ja power macam yg built in dalam HU dalam 25 W RMS macam tu kali....

eii...pa pula yg macam sya ni?lom pula ada brg sa beli yg rosak Suspect palis2 la.jgn sja tiba2 rosak.huhu
sa ada round tdi d fuji.ada sya nmpak tu vifa.hehe tpi memang mhl la. dngn arga tu klau compete set mid n tweeter macam buli beli yg lgi bagus klau used set.memang teda warranty la klau used set ni.main gamble sja.hehe make sure tnya ada warranty la tu speaker d fuji.nanti macam tu DLS kena ckp teda waranty susa lgi.myb sbab main active ba.tu la void suda.

yaka? kira mahal la kan fina? aiya..nampaknya kenalah saya ikut path yg kamurang lalui ni..pakai used set..

kenapa boleh void kalau main active? sebab tidak pakai crossover asal ka?
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guys..saya mau tanya pendapat kamurang kalau main sq pakai active subwoofer?ok tak?
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guys..saya mau tanya pendapat kamurang kalau main sq pakai active subwoofer?ok tak?

Hehehehe.........................a BIG NOOOOOOOOOOOO


Btw finalazy ko lupa udahkah siapa minta kurang arega RM10 kena bagi muka panjang tu arr...khakhakha............ Agree
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boi, dgn power cap, aku rasa sub lebih mantap la. kalau pasal clean, itu mo tengok tuning la. tapi kalau ko happy dgn sound skrg, tak payah tambah tambah lagi la.

final, how do u like the sound now? better or still prefer ur own tuning? Very Happy
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ya.. dulu sub lagi clean. bunyi lagi warm. jadi sekarang tau la suda macam mana mau bagi warm sikit, tapi senang jak ba. sambung 1 wire jak. n tune balik 2 crossover la. sekarang kalau 6.3k memang ada telebih dynamic. xtau la kalau 2 tafsiran betul @ x..
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Andrew: oya...haha ingat2...minta less tu double din cassing...hehe
Boi: ingat ka kita punya discussion awal2 psal tweeter sblah kiri ko tu?haha memang noob la kita ni...hehe
Airpulse: depends juga tu bro, klo ko mo men vifa pun ada juga vifa yg murah dari d fuji tu.cek d icehifi, cari user superhifi. windu pun beli dari sna juga vifa dia tu.
CK: klau cross at 8k memang lebih clean n detail.hehe tuning msa d alpine dlu pn ko buat 8Khz juga kn...hehe sya ubah skit sja tu d Peq.ksi naik 16khz.skrg syok suda...haha
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime25/10/2010, 11:52 am

hehe.. ok. kita sama2 belajar. sekarang rasa macam cukup sedap suda saun. jadi next upgrade = tahun depan.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime25/10/2010, 12:06 pm

wah ruginya nda dpt datang...mau dgr kemajuan masing2 dlm meniun..
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ahhahaa.. nanti ko datang kk jg kn.. xda hal ba 2. xlama lagi cuti. huhu..

power - myvi mau keluar suda?
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lum lg...minta tu myvi bulan 12..tu komfom masuk DLS juga hehe..

ya nanti aku dtg cuti
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DLS? aiyo. bagus ko beli headphone oo.. hehe..
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hehe, bini yg mau..pndai lg tu dia ckp "aku mau dls juga ya" hahaha.. tu headphone pkai budget lain la.
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hahaha. gilos. baru la. full set ka..
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nasib baik bini ko tdk ckp DLS scandinavia...haha

masi lgi noob ba power...bulan 12 macam sya induksi owh...tatau lgi la ada nama ka tdk.jdi klau msa tu kamu TT nda dpt join la tu...huhu

airpulse: ada tu vifa d icehifi RM800 xt25+P17. untuk active system la.HU kena ada crossover setting.
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haha...ni la ni baru pikir2 macam mana..blum ada duit lg ni mau bkin..kc full set lah kalau dpt...aku punya full 3 way lah hehe..masuk p9 n p90 used.

hehe kalau org perempuan tdk la smpai tau detail g2..tp yg best nya 1st aku ckp pasang rockford, ndamau dia blang, mau DLS juga hehe.

mana ada noob suda tu final...bleh la kita masuk geng rookie udah heheh...alala nda dpt la dgr ko punya sound tu tau...manatau ada kesempatan kan...bleh juga tu dtg kejap..jd ko lum induksi lum sah jawatan la ni?..

andrew...bila ko bleh trun kk...jom la crita2 bah...aku blanja minum2, ko punya sys tu cukup kaw2 udah, siapa pduli main passive ka active yg pnting sedap dia punya tone..even aku pkai sys bodo2 ja pun reveal juga hehe..

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c andrew tu klau turun pn bukn kstau kita juga...hehe andrew ndamau jumpa org2 rookie ba Laughing

itu induksi macam 3 hari sja tu.mau cut kos ba skrg ni...hehe ya lom sah jwatan.2 tahun suda bertugas.huhu

jgn memandang rndah dngn prmpuan ba.dorg pn tau juga tu.cuma kali dorg tatau macam mna mau explain...hehe system sya lebih kurang cam c boi ja ba.setting pn lebih kurang sma.cuma lower extntion c boi macam teda.mesti ada silap d amp la tu.mustahil juga.sub mohwak sya yg teda2 tu pun ok juga.

boi: ba potong tu RCA ko kasi jadi dua pasang.beli plug la.klau ko risau tdk pndai solder sa buli tolong ba.sya ada plug juga.tpi yg teda brand punya la.RM10 sepasang sa beli dulu.kaler gold suma.macam?kita projek...hehe
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final - memang ko memahami owh. sy baru mau minta tolong ko solder. yg ko punya plug beli d mana?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime25/10/2010, 6:38 pm

oh..hehe...napa ko punya bunyi sub boi..nda kuat kah? hehe..ko tau napa tu? ndapalah nanti kita adjust..sikit ja tu, aku punya pula tlampau boom suda ni, tp masih steady di depan la..cuba try lagu rihanna-push up on me..test dia punya bass..amat mustahil la tu DLS 250w rms tdk bleh blast sikit2..penuh ngan bass owh ko punya kreta..pa lg kalau yg memang blast punya sub
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 15 Icon_minitime25/10/2010, 6:53 pm

bukn tdk kuat power.punch suda ada.tpi lower extntion tdk kuat.tdk cukup tuk rsa tu gegaran.macam start dari 50hz kebwah kurang suda. Suspect

boi: sya beli tu plug d survey keningau...haha eh bukn RM10 la.RM4.90 Laughing kijap sa amik gmbar kasi tingu ko.
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