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apa barang2 bgs yg bleh ditambah atau ditukar atau dimasukkan ke enjin myvi(K3-VE) utk tambahkan performance(NA)??aku tgk complicated sikit mau buat selidikan ttg enjin MYVI ni, sbb ramai member pkai Mitsubishi pnya spesis, 4g6x/4g9x..........heheeheh.....so tlg2 dlu aku yg bru blajar ni...... Myvi engine...K3-VE(MT-std) - Page 2 907356


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Nieto wrote:
saya cadangkan bro masuk piggyback e-manage ultimate, dimana boleh adjust mapping air flow, dan juga kacau dvvt, boleh setting auto gearbox lagi. tapi kalau standard, masuk piggyback pun tak banyak perbezaan.

kalau mahu kuasa yang banyak, kenalah pakai force induction macam turbo atau supercharge. dimana boleh memudaratkan engine.

pendapat saya untuk exhaust system, biarlah standard dulu. kalau engine standard masuk exhaust lain, memang hilang kuasa. engineer daihatsu sudah kira kuasa kuda untuk myvi/boon dan exhaustnya sudah sesuai dengan engine. lain lah cerita kalau sudah modify engine masuk exhaust.

kalau bro punya auto, boleh masuk atf cooler untuk transmisi anda, saya tengok banyak sudah orang pasang di myvi, hasilnya memang positive, pickup ada response. kalau baru saja pasang tu, kalau leaking tidak hairan tu. pasang oil cooler memang selalu mahu kena check.


bro, myvi aku manual.....hehe....okla, utk 1st step, apa yg ko rasa aku perlu buat skrg?sbb tlmpau byk brg bgs, aku pun xtau yg mana 1 aku ptt msukkan dlu.......hehe
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ko da port n polish ka ko punya head????
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ko da port n polish ka ko punya head????



masi stendet gaban bro.......
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extractor aku cadang ko beli buatan tonnka..mmg berkualiti..high performance pnya buatan..aku pernh tgk myvi 1.3 NA vs wira 1.5 main d twu..kalah oo 2 wira..power siot..
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zhariffz wrote:
oky_da_alung wrote:
extractor aku cadang ko beli buatan tonnka..mmg berkualiti..high performance pnya buatan..aku pernh tgk myvi 1.3 NA vs wira 1.5 main d twu..kalah oo 2 wira..power siot..


brapa harga tu bro??

order bh 2 bro..macam xda ku jmpa d tmpt kta ni..RM500 kali 2..hot bitz pn ok jua..
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harga ko check d tonnka.com.my
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oky_da_alung wrote:
extractor aku cadang ko beli buatan tonnka..mmg berkualiti..high performance pnya buatan..aku pernh tgk myvi 1.3 NA vs wira 1.5 main d twu..kalah oo 2 wira..power siot..

tidak hairan tu bro, saya rasa stended myvi 1.3 power lagi dari wira 1.5 stended. pasal weight to power ratio, kereta kecil, engine tak payah besar pun laju sudah. macam juga l2 boleh gigit gsr, pasal berat badan kereta bah ni
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zhariffz wrote:
Nieto wrote:
saya cadangkan bro masuk piggyback e-manage ultimate, dimana boleh adjust mapping air flow, dan juga kacau dvvt, boleh setting auto gearbox lagi. tapi kalau standard, masuk piggyback pun tak banyak perbezaan.

kalau mahu kuasa yang banyak, kenalah pakai force induction macam turbo atau supercharge. dimana boleh memudaratkan engine.

pendapat saya untuk exhaust system, biarlah standard dulu. kalau engine standard masuk exhaust lain, memang hilang kuasa. engineer daihatsu sudah kira kuasa kuda untuk myvi/boon dan exhaustnya sudah sesuai dengan engine. lain lah cerita kalau sudah modify engine masuk exhaust.

kalau bro punya auto, boleh masuk atf cooler untuk transmisi anda, saya tengok banyak sudah orang pasang di myvi, hasilnya memang positive, pickup ada response. kalau baru saja pasang tu, kalau leaking tidak hairan tu. pasang oil cooler memang selalu mahu kena check.


bro, myvi aku manual.....hehe....okla, utk 1st step, apa yg ko rasa aku perlu buat skrg?sbb tlmpau byk brg bgs, aku pun xtau yg mana 1 aku ptt msukkan dlu.......hehe


untuk 1st step, seperti biasa, improve dulu airflow, supaya aliran udara tiada rintangan, kalau manual saya cadangkan k&n jenis open pod (cone), piping guna aluminium. kedai ada jual, tapi masalahnya arah tak betul, arahnya hadap ke radiator. kalau boleh buat piping sendiri. mahu jimat sikit, pakai saja drop in, lepas tu pasang cool air intake.

masih tak cukup? tukar spark plug, bagus sikit punya. tak payah iridium, iridium mahal. pakai saja NGK platinium, Bosch super 4, Bosch Platinium, Bosch Fusion.

Tukar lighten crank pulley, harga lebih kurang rm3xx, benda ni macam juga kasi ringan flywheel. On wheel HP pun pandai naik, cuma kelemahan dia top power ada kurang sedikitlah, pasal momentum telah dikurangkan.

Kasi rebore trottle body, tapi tak pasti myvi boleh buat atau tak, tak pernah bedah engine myvi lagi. Port and polish, kalau mahu oversize pergi 1.5, boleh cuba kalau mahu ^^ pakai piston avanza, rush atau alza.
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Nieto wrote:
oky_da_alung wrote:
extractor aku cadang ko beli buatan tonnka..mmg berkualiti..high performance pnya buatan..aku pernh tgk myvi 1.3 NA vs wira 1.5 main d twu..kalah oo 2 wira..power siot..

tidak hairan tu bro, saya rasa stended myvi 1.3 power lagi dari wira 1.5 stended. pasal weight to power ratio, kereta kecil, engine tak payah besar pun laju sudah. macam juga l2 boleh gigit gsr, pasal berat badan kereta bah ni


ya, aku pnah jg test main2 dgn wira 1.5(4g15), bleh2 jg larian myvi ni. dptl jgla mkn sikit......hehe....lgpun mngkn psl brat body kereta, twincam & 16v ada advantage sikit....
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Nieto wrote:
zhariffz wrote:
Nieto wrote:
saya cadangkan bro masuk piggyback e-manage ultimate, dimana boleh adjust mapping air flow, dan juga kacau dvvt, boleh setting auto gearbox lagi. tapi kalau standard, masuk piggyback pun tak banyak perbezaan.

kalau mahu kuasa yang banyak, kenalah pakai force induction macam turbo atau supercharge. dimana boleh memudaratkan engine.

pendapat saya untuk exhaust system, biarlah standard dulu. kalau engine standard masuk exhaust lain, memang hilang kuasa. engineer daihatsu sudah kira kuasa kuda untuk myvi/boon dan exhaustnya sudah sesuai dengan engine. lain lah cerita kalau sudah modify engine masuk exhaust.

kalau bro punya auto, boleh masuk atf cooler untuk transmisi anda, saya tengok banyak sudah orang pasang di myvi, hasilnya memang positive, pickup ada response. kalau baru saja pasang tu, kalau leaking tidak hairan tu. pasang oil cooler memang selalu mahu kena check.


bro, myvi aku manual.....hehe....okla, utk 1st step, apa yg ko rasa aku perlu buat skrg?sbb tlmpau byk brg bgs, aku pun xtau yg mana 1 aku ptt msukkan dlu.......hehe


untuk 1st step, seperti biasa, improve dulu airflow, supaya aliran udara tiada rintangan, kalau manual saya cadangkan k&n jenis open pod (cone), piping guna aluminium. kedai ada jual, tapi masalahnya arah tak betul, arahnya hadap ke radiator. kalau boleh buat piping sendiri. mahu jimat sikit, pakai saja drop in, lepas tu pasang cool air intake.

masih tak cukup? tukar spark plug, bagus sikit punya. tak payah iridium, iridium mahal. pakai saja NGK platinium, Bosch super 4, Bosch Platinium, Bosch Fusion.

Tukar lighten crank pulley, harga lebih kurang rm3xx, benda ni macam juga kasi ringan flywheel. On wheel HP pun pandai naik, cuma kelemahan dia top power ada kurang sedikitlah, pasal momentum telah dikurangkan.

Kasi rebore trottle body, tapi tak pasti myvi boleh buat atau tak, tak pernah bedah engine myvi lagi. Port and polish, kalau mahu oversize pergi 1.5, boleh cuba kalau mahu ^^ pakai piston avanza, rush atau alza.


wah, byk tips ni, thanx bro.....tp klu pkai K&N drop in pnya filter, rasa beza jg ka tu??sbb stendet pun drop in, klu open pod mmg cnfirm rasa pnya.....& 1 lg, crank pulley tu, dmana jual??apa brand yg bgs??JASMA ka??
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ada beza juga drop in dia tu, jauh beza. Tapisan pun lebih baik daripada stendet. k&n pakai 10 tahun pun tiada masalah, cuma perlu beli ubat dan minyak dia maintain. kalau tak silap rm80 lebih, boleh pakai banyak kali.

brand jasma tak pasti bro, tak pernah cuba. saya cuma pernah cuba zerone sama mytheology. mytheology punya mahal, tapi tak pasti ada untuk myvi atau tak.
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tu JASMA tu apa?brand ke atau cop quality?
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Nieto wrote:
ada beza juga drop in dia tu, jauh beza. Tapisan pun lebih baik daripada stendet. k&n pakai 10 tahun pun tiada masalah, cuma perlu beli ubat dan minyak dia maintain. kalau tak silap rm80 lebih, boleh pakai banyak kali.

brand jasma tak pasti bro, tak pernah cuba. saya cuma pernah cuba zerone sama mytheology. mytheology punya mahal, tapi tak pasti ada untuk myvi atau tak.


oh, sbb aku tgk d mudah byk jasma ja jual.....huhu.....zerone sini kk, dmana mau ada jual tu brg??........bgsla, sbb aku rasa mau kasi maintain drop in ja tu filter, bru nmpk stendet sikit.....hehehe
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bod_supersperm wrote:
tu JASMA tu apa?brand ke atau cop quality?


brand tu bro......hehehe
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zhariffz wrote:
Nieto wrote:
ada beza juga drop in dia tu, jauh beza. Tapisan pun lebih baik daripada stendet. k&n pakai 10 tahun pun tiada masalah, cuma perlu beli ubat dan minyak dia maintain. kalau tak silap rm80 lebih, boleh pakai banyak kali.

brand jasma tak pasti bro, tak pernah cuba. saya cuma pernah cuba zerone sama mytheology. mytheology punya mahal, tapi tak pasti ada untuk myvi atau tak.


oh, sbb aku tgk d mudah byk jasma ja jual.....huhu.....zerone sini kk, dmana mau ada jual tu brg??........bgsla, sbb aku rasa mau kasi maintain drop in ja tu filter, bru nmpk stendet sikit.....hehehe


ya saya pun nampak, tapi belum lagi saya nampak ada orang beli. jangan dulu kita jadi "tikus putih", dengar dulu feedback orang hehehe. zerone semenanjung saja ada, tapi boleh main order. zerone ni brand malaysia kalau tak silap.
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bod_supersperm wrote:
tu JASMA tu apa?brand ke atau cop quality?

2 yg jd persoalan skrg ni kn..tp yg aku tau jasma 2 lebih kurang macam cop sirim la..hehehe..eg; approval by JASMA..
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zhariffz wrote:
Nieto wrote:
zhariffz wrote:
Nieto wrote:
saya cadangkan bro masuk piggyback e-manage ultimate, dimana boleh adjust mapping air flow, dan juga kacau dvvt, boleh setting auto gearbox lagi. tapi kalau standard, masuk piggyback pun tak banyak perbezaan.

kalau mahu kuasa yang banyak, kenalah pakai force induction macam turbo atau supercharge. dimana boleh memudaratkan engine.

pendapat saya untuk exhaust system, biarlah standard dulu. kalau engine standard masuk exhaust lain, memang hilang kuasa. engineer daihatsu sudah kira kuasa kuda untuk myvi/boon dan exhaustnya sudah sesuai dengan engine. lain lah cerita kalau sudah modify engine masuk exhaust.

kalau bro punya auto, boleh masuk atf cooler untuk transmisi anda, saya tengok banyak sudah orang pasang di myvi, hasilnya memang positive, pickup ada response. kalau baru saja pasang tu, kalau leaking tidak hairan tu. pasang oil cooler memang selalu mahu kena check.


bro, myvi aku manual.....hehe....okla, utk 1st step, apa yg ko rasa aku perlu buat skrg?sbb tlmpau byk brg bgs, aku pun xtau yg mana 1 aku ptt msukkan dlu.......hehe


untuk 1st step, seperti biasa, improve dulu airflow, supaya aliran udara tiada rintangan, kalau manual saya cadangkan k&n jenis open pod (cone), piping guna aluminium. kedai ada jual, tapi masalahnya arah tak betul, arahnya hadap ke radiator. kalau boleh buat piping sendiri. mahu jimat sikit, pakai saja drop in, lepas tu pasang cool air intake.

masih tak cukup? tukar spark plug, bagus sikit punya. tak payah iridium, iridium mahal. pakai saja NGK platinium, Bosch super 4, Bosch Platinium, Bosch Fusion.

Tukar lighten crank pulley, harga lebih kurang rm3xx, benda ni macam juga kasi ringan flywheel. On wheel HP pun pandai naik, cuma kelemahan dia top power ada kurang sedikitlah, pasal momentum telah dikurangkan.

Kasi rebore trottle body, tapi tak pasti myvi boleh buat atau tak, tak pernah bedah engine myvi lagi. Port and polish, kalau mahu oversize pergi 1.5, boleh cuba kalau mahu ^^ pakai piston avanza, rush atau alza.


wah, byk tips ni, thanx bro.....tp klu pkai K&N drop in pnya filter, rasa beza jg ka tu??sbb stendet pun drop in, klu open pod mmg cnfirm rasa pnya.....& 1 lg, crank pulley tu, dmana jual??apa brand yg bgs??JASMA ka??

yeaa man..btl kata bro nieto 2..hehehe..beli ja zerone pnya crankpulley..rm330 harga tuk myvi..selamat meng'KING'kn myvi NA anda..hehehe..
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Nieto wrote:
zhariffz wrote:
Nieto wrote:
ada beza juga drop in dia tu, jauh beza. Tapisan pun lebih baik daripada stendet. k&n pakai 10 tahun pun tiada masalah, cuma perlu beli ubat dan minyak dia maintain. kalau tak silap rm80 lebih, boleh pakai banyak kali.

brand jasma tak pasti bro, tak pernah cuba. saya cuma pernah cuba zerone sama mytheology. mytheology punya mahal, tapi tak pasti ada untuk myvi atau tak.


oh, sbb aku tgk d mudah byk jasma ja jual.....huhu.....zerone sini kk, dmana mau ada jual tu brg??........bgsla, sbb aku rasa mau kasi maintain drop in ja tu filter, bru nmpk stendet sikit.....hehehe


ya saya pun nampak, tapi belum lagi saya nampak ada orang beli. jangan dulu kita jadi "tikus putih", dengar dulu feedback orang hehehe. zerone semenanjung saja ada, tapi boleh main order. zerone ni brand malaysia kalau tak silap.

xpala, aku skrg bdasarkan otai2 jg ni, zerone mmg byk dpt feedack yg sgt2 memuaskan......hehe....teda direct jual sini ka?cnfirm ada caj tmbahan lg utk pghantaran......hahaha
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tu JASMA tu apa?brand ke atau cop quality?

2 yg jd persoalan skrg ni kn..tp yg aku tau jasma 2 lebih kurang macam cop sirim la..hehehe..eg; approval by JASMA..



aku xpasti bro, sbb aku pun nmpk d mudah ja....
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yeaa man..btl kata bro nieto 2..hehehe..beli ja zerone pnya crankpulley..rm330 harga tuk myvi..selamat meng'KING'kn myvi NA anda..hehehe..



ok, bakal2 dipertimangkan......hehe...tp kan, aku mau tau ba, apa sbnrnya kelebihan Lightened crank pully ni??hanya utk pick up ka??& apa kkurangan klu guna?teda side effect ka kpd part2 dlm enjin yg masi stendet gaban ni?
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ada beza juga drop in dia tu, jauh beza. Tapisan pun lebih baik daripada stendet. k&n pakai 10 tahun pun tiada masalah, cuma perlu beli ubat dan minyak dia maintain. kalau tak silap rm80 lebih, boleh pakai banyak kali.

brand jasma tak pasti bro, tak pernah cuba. saya cuma pernah cuba zerone sama mytheology. mytheology punya mahal, tapi tak pasti ada untuk myvi atau tak.

Betul tu bro Nieto.Kena korban sikit jak utk ubat & minyaknya tu.Tp aku punya pendapat bagus drop in la.Open pod kena tambah piping lg (kalau tak silap la kn)Harga pun lain2.
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yeaa man..btl kata bro nieto 2..hehehe..beli ja zerone pnya crankpulley..rm330 harga tuk myvi..selamat meng'KING'kn myvi NA anda..hehehe..



ok, bakal2 dipertimangkan......hehe...tp kan, aku mau tau ba, apa sbnrnya kelebihan Lightened crank pully ni??hanya utk pick up ka??& apa kkurangan klu guna?teda side effect ka kpd part2 dlm enjin yg masi stendet gaban ni?

macam yg bro nieto ckp 2..meringankn lg..side effect pada enjin aku x tau pla..bt yg basic dl bro..piping 2 biar la mengikut kesesuaian..
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Ini barangnya.Ubat & minyak.Lupa pla brp ku beli hari tu di G-POWER.
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K&N memg bagus reputasi dia. Made in USA lg. Tp harga dia tu yng bikin stuck. Utk kelisa/kenari pun dalam rm240.00 jg hrga dia.
Tdk termasuk cleaning kit. Tp barang ni memang lifetimelah. Buli cuci sndiri kalau ada kit cleaning dia. Cuma leceh sikit part mnggu filter tu kering. Lainlah kalau ada air gun. Klu tdk hrp cahaya matahari jalah. Plg senang hantar kedai kalau mo cuci. RM15 ja caj dia.

Skg ni sya pakai simota drop in. RM90. Alternatif yg murah brbndg K&N. So far so good. Cra jaga pn hmpr sama dengan filter K&N.

Bulilah untuk kasi senang2 hati sendiri. Myvi engine...K3-VE(MT-std) - Page 2 526604 haha
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Berkaitan Jasma, saya rasa itu brand, bukan approval from jasma. meter meter dia pun tulis jasma.

Side effect untuk LCP ini setakat ni tiada, cuma hilang sikit top, dan naik bukit ada kurang power sikit, sama macam kasi ringan flywheel lah, kereta macam JapanGT punya lemas tu naik bukit. crank pulley yang ringan kurang kuasa momentum, tula sebabnya top power hilang. Tapi kalau LCP ni, tak banyak yang hilang.

satu lagi side effect, myvi saya tak pasti tapi kalau wira ADA!!, original pulley ada damper, ada getah pada pulley. Kalau tiada damper, dia tak dapat kurangkan getaran engine, boleh menyebabkan belting pandai lari, dan juga crankshaft lari balance.

KALAU myvi punya original pulley tiada damper, selamatlah guna Zerone.
Zerone punya LCP tiada getah, kalau Mythelogy ada getah. perbezaan RM300, zerone punya 3xx, Myth punya 6xx.
perbezaan RM300, zerone punya 3xx, Myth punya 6xx.
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