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Salam 1Malaysia Semua. Aku baru masuk masuk forum ni.. Ku harap aku dh masuk tempat yang betul ni. Banyak benda yang saya tak tahu sya dpt tahu d sini. Sbnarnay saya ada satu persoalan yg berlegar2 di kepala saya sebelum tido. bini pn bingung tengok slalu trmenung. Saya plan nk beli satu complete set KARBURATOR TURBO KIT L2 untuk Kancil. Saya sekarang pakai enjin original 850cc manual, so saya nk pasang turbo kit tu kat kancil. persoalan saya disini ialah
1. piston n 6biji valve tu boleh tak support kuasa turbo tu nanti? atau ada apa2 perlu dilakukan pada dalaman enjin. coz org yg jual brg tu kata just "PLUG N PLAY"

2. ada tak head 12valve daihatsu untuk enjin karburator? plan nk masuk head 12valve kat enjin 850 with turbokit..

3. kalau masuk turbo kit tu nanti sebesar mana perbezaan kuasa dri enjin asal tanpa turbo?

apa2 pandangan kalian?
sapa2 yg hebat bab2 turbo ni tlg la saya jwp k.. thanks

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Ya la bro, lama suda tida diskusi sama bro keba ni..haha
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Owh, kancil 660 1st edition guna low comp punya. bermaksud piston low com ni bole juga la diguna utk enjin N/a kan.. Thanks bro for the info.

ada lagi mau tanya ni (suda bagi kaki, mau paha pulak hehe peace ..)

yg dimaksudkan "Low comp" and "Hi comp" ni merujuk kpg material yg diguna utk buat piston ataupun dari segi reka bentuk piston tu sendiri bro?

hi comp n low comp ni bgantung kepada compression ratio cylinder. utk enjin petrol NA, kbiasaan compression ratio dari 9.5 hingga 12.0. ratio 9.5-12.0 ni dikira hi compression. bg low comp pula, compression bawah drp 9.5.
piston hi comp bleh convert jadi piston low comp. contoh macam bleh buat kawah kat piston. x pun potong kpala piston. ad jgk yg x usik piston tp rebore kawah kat head. tu pn bleh wat hi comp jadi low comp.
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kent1189 wrote:
Owh, kancil 660 1st edition guna low comp punya. bermaksud piston low com ni bole juga la diguna utk enjin N/a kan.. Thanks bro for the info.

ada lagi mau tanya ni (suda bagi kaki, mau paha pulak hehe peace ..)

yg dimaksudkan "Low comp" and "Hi comp" ni merujuk kpg material yg diguna utk buat piston ataupun dari segi reka bentuk piston tu sendiri bro?

hi comp n low comp ni bgantung kepada compression ratio cylinder. utk enjin petrol NA, kbiasaan compression ratio dari 9.5 hingga 12.0. ratio 9.5-12.0 ni dikira hi compression. bg low comp pula, compression bawah drp 9.5.
piston hi comp bleh convert jadi piston low comp. contoh macam bleh buat kawah kat piston. x pun potong kpala piston. ad jgk yg x usik piston tp rebore kawah kat head. tu pn bleh wat hi comp jadi low comp.
hi/low com ni macam lebih merujuk kpd rekabentuk piston la kan bro..hehe. Thnks bro.. Kalu kes guna head EFI 12v turbo, tapi kekalkan blok dan piston 850, bole ka rebore tu piston 850 kasi jadi low com bro? pnah ka urg buat ni..hehe
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kent1189: lg elok buat kawah kat head. sb kalau korek piston, bnyak kos pulak kena bukak blok.
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Uii.. bole korek head jugak ya bro.. tapi mcam proses port&polish saja korek2 head ni bro..hehe. sama ka tu?

mksudnya boleh la guna piston 850 utk turbo asalkan di low compresskan (wat kawah) kan..
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Uii.. bole korek head jugak ya bro.. tapi mcam proses port&polish saja korek2 head ni bro..hehe. sama ka tu?

mksudnya boleh la guna piston 850 utk turbo asalkan di low compresskan (wat kawah) kan..
port n polish tu lbih kepada bahagian kemasukan angin d head. kalau buat kawah, wat d bahagian dlm cylinder (d kebuk pembakaran)
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Ok bro.. thanks 4 the brilliant info..
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salam otai2 trbo smua..sy newbie brhjt nk kacuk 850 sy dgn l5 tp sblm tu sy nk tnya otai2 dlu mngenai:
1) l5 dgn l2 mna satu lg bgs?
2) klo kita pkai l5 kacuk 850 nnti apa kmungknan mslh yg kita akn hdapi kelak? sbb bca komen2 org kta l5 ni problmatic.
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salam otai2 trbo smua..sy newbie brhjt nk kacuk 850 sy dgn l5 tp sblm tu sy nk tnya otai2 dlu mngenai:
1) l5 dgn l2 mna satu lg bgs?
2) klo kita pkai l5 kacuk 850 nnti apa kmungknan mslh yg kita akn hdapi kelak? sbb bca komen2 org kta l5 ni problmatic.
L5 bnyk probem sb enjin spesies ni bnyk sensor.
kao nk kacuk, elok amek head L2 bbanding head L5.
lg pun L2 lg senang nk kacuk dgn blok kancil 850
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nik fahmi wrote:
salam otai2 trbo smua..sy newbie brhjt nk kacuk 850 sy dgn l5 tp sblm tu sy nk tnya otai2 dlu mngenai:
1) l5 dgn l2 mna satu lg bgs?
2) klo kita pkai l5 kacuk 850 nnti apa kmungknan mslh yg kita akn hdapi kelak? sbb bca komen2 org kta l5 ni problmatic.
L5 bnyk probem sb enjin spesies ni bnyk sensor.
kao nk kacuk, elok amek head L2 bbanding head L5.
lg pun L2 lg senang nk kacuk dgn blok kancil 850

owh macam tu nsb baik bro habaq mai..tp klo kita kacuk ngn l2 brpe tggi max boost ngn speed yg kita leh dpt? kereta nk wat untk g berulng bljar jer dri klntan sbln skli blk rmh.. drive
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kalau kacuk head L2, max boost 0.5bar. nk jalan jauh, lg elok kalau x pakai turbo. convert jd efi tp pakai head kelisa.
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keba wrote:
kalau kacuk head L2, max boost 0.5bar. nk jalan jauh, lg elok kalau x pakai turbo. convert jd efi tp pakai head kelisa.

ksan bla kta pkai efi head klisa lak macam mna? maaf bnyk tnya. salam
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nik fahmi wrote:
keba wrote:
kalau kacuk head L2, max boost 0.5bar. nk jalan jauh, lg elok kalau x pakai turbo. convert jd efi tp pakai head kelisa.

ksan bla kta pkai efi head klisa lak macam mna? maaf bnyk tnya. salam
original enjin kancil pakai carburetor. kalau nk sedap, bleh convert pakai injection (efi). nk convert efi, bleh pakai head kelisa x pun head L2. tp msti beli 1 set dgn wiring n ecu baru bleh pasang kat enjin asal kancil
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keba wrote:
nik fahmi wrote:
keba wrote:
kalau kacuk head L2, max boost 0.5bar. nk jalan jauh, lg elok kalau x pakai turbo. convert jd efi tp pakai head kelisa.

ksan bla kta pkai efi head klisa lak macam mna? maaf bnyk tnya. salam
original enjin kancil pakai carburetor. kalau nk sedap, bleh convert pakai injection (efi). nk convert efi, bleh pakai head kelisa x pun head L2. tp msti beli 1 set dgn wiring n ecu baru bleh pasang kat enjin asal kancil
ok,thanks bro keba.. Smile
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maaf,blh tumpang tanya x,brape harge rebore block 850 untuk msuk piston L2?sya btl2 minat nk kacuk enjin 850 dan L2 ni..ade sape2 blh bg tahu x? salam
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Ssah nk ckp pasal harga d sini bro, lain tempat lain harga. kadang-kadang beza harga sampai 2-3ratus..
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salam Ooo macam 2...klau bjet dlm 5rat ckup x??
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salam Ooo macam 2...klau bjet dlm 5rat ckup x??
5rat tmasuk hrga piston n upah rebore? x cukup. simpan 1k++
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kalau utk rebore saja cukup2 mkn tu..
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salam bro...boleh x 660ex carb aku..convert pkai brang2 l2 turbo..piston tkar l2 pnyala kan..mls aku nak bwa p reg..kereta msi nama org lain..
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salam bro...boleh x 660ex carb aku..convert pkai brang2 l2 turbo..piston tkar l2 pnyala kan..mls aku nak bwa p reg..kereta msi nama org lain..

boleh tu boleh,tapi tidak sesuai.cos blok N/A tidak boleh tahan kalau psg turbo bolt-on .
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salam bro...boleh x 660ex carb aku..convert pkai brang2 l2 turbo..piston tkar l2 pnyala kan..mls aku nak bwa p reg..kereta msi nama org lain..
boleh. tp mau salin abes la brg dalam. piston, crankshaft dll
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pnp je kan tu bro..??piston,crank shaft dan sewaktunya...

tq bro bebiri N bro keba Smile
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salin je. tp pastikan blok tu blok yg btol sb blok 850 ad 2 jnis. 1 jnis yg no enjin d atas water pump. 1 lg yg no enjin bawah distributor. kena amek yg no enjin bwh distributor.
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keba wrote:
salin je. tp pastikan blok tu blok yg btol sb blok 850 ad 2 jnis. 1 jnis yg no enjin d atas water pump. 1 lg yg no enjin bawah distributor. kena amek yg no enjin bwh distributor.
enjin 850cc ada 2jenis? baru tau juga ni. apa beza 2 enjin ni bro?
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