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PostSubject: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime2/9/2008, 8:23 am

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saya mau tau baa. apa kebaikan dan keburukan kalau oversize piston. seperti contoh kalau kasi skim head power bertambah laa tapi enjin cepat naik suhu sama skim kasi ringan flywheel jalan lurus memang ok tapi bukit susah mau naik. berapa mm size paling maksimum kalau nak over size, saya ada dengar org oversize piston kancil 660 masuk piston kelisa (68mm - 72mm= 4mm).
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime1/3/2009, 11:50 pm

Rujukan;

1JZ-GE/1JZ-GTE = Bore 86mm, Stroke 71.5mm (2491cc)
2JZ-GE/2JZ-GTE = Bore 86mm, Stroke 86mm (2997cc)
Beza diatara kedua-dua enjin adalah pada strokernya

GSR - 4G93T = Bore 81mm, Stroke 89mm (1834cc)
Mivec - 4G92 DOHC MIVEC= Bore 81mm, stroke 77.5mm (1597cc)
Beza diatara kedua-dua enjin adalah pada strokernya

VR4 & EVO3 - 4G63T = Bore 85mm, stroke 88mm (1997cc)

Piston 86mm boleh masuk ke enjin 4G63 sahaja
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime2/3/2009, 12:05 pm

nah otai uda b'suara...
thanx bro blugu
Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 1:34 am

kemuskilan aku lak, kalau oversize piston ni camana pula ngan carb setting kena ubah ka.

pasal sekarang ni aku ada kereta old skol toyota KP-30, model injin aku tak ingat, dah buat rebore masuk piston 1.3 dari injin yg se-spesis ngan stock injin ni, perluka setting carb, sebelum ni pernah juga masuk block 1.5 guna carb asal 1.0 kereta ni. 5 bln macam tu block pecah, so masuk balik ni stock injin 1.0 rebore masuk piston 1.3
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 9:14 am

Yup, supply petrol kena tambah juga kalau suda rebore nie, utk mengelakan kesan sampingan supply petrol lean, contohnya seperti head gasket putus, piston ring cepat haus & boleh menyebabkan piston berlubang sekaligus merosakkan blok enjin.

setting utk karburator, sy nda berapa pasti, tapi lebih baik jika ada alat wideband tuning utk mengetahui samada supply petrol rich/lean. Disana boleh mengetahui samada perlu buat tune-up atau menukar karburator yg boleh supply fuel lebih. Kalau pakai EFI, samada perlu tukar Injector atau fuel pump

... my two cents...
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/4/2009, 1:18 pm

bro blungu,
klu pki stroker kit waja 1.8 ni, apa lg yg perlu d modify selain rebore tu blok enjin?
klu pki head 1.8 waja tu trus bleh ka tu bro?
mcm berminat juga ni sbb enjin saya pun 1.3 efi juga ni...
tq ah..
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime4/5/2009, 11:05 am

klau viva oversize piston pakai piston apa?
bore 72 x stroke 81...selain 2E atau 4E.
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime4/5/2009, 8:36 pm

detomaso kali..1.6l..huhuhu..atau apa² saiz piston 76mm..4mm setiap silinder pun ok bah...hehehe Very Happy tggu otai bg cadangan yg lebi bernas..
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime4/5/2009, 8:40 pm

tar_007 wrote:
bro blungu,
klu pki stroker kit waja 1.8 ni, apa lg yg perlu d modify selain rebore tu blok enjin?
klu pki head 1.8 waja tu trus bleh ka tu bro?
mcm berminat juga ni sbb enjin saya pun 1.3 efi juga ni...
tq ah..

menambah supply utk minyak... What a Face hehe..trottle lebih besar supaya udara masuk sesuai dgn cc enjin..tdk pasti boleh ka tdk tggu bro blugu jawab..mgkin ada yg berlainan head 4g13 dgn 4g18 ni..tkut tapak dkt blok x sma..
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime5/5/2009, 9:48 am

head 4g18 xbule masuk....cuma ambik piston+conrod+crankshaft dia jah sumbat masuk 4g13.....klu kabureter kasi lebih minyak sikit lol....klu fuel injek tukar nozel besar....

*correct me if im wrong....hehehe
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime6/5/2009, 9:31 am

huhuhu..itu bore ja bah kan penting? tu stroke tia kena menggena?

klau yg 4g13 tidak payah oversize throttle.. kau kasih direct one by one 4 throttle? =X
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime6/5/2009, 7:06 pm

hehehe..gila 4 trottle..tu stroke kalau masi sm pnjg konrod ok bah.. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 6:37 am

Leader™ wrote:
kemuskilan aku lak, kalau oversize piston ni camana pula ngan carb setting kena ubah ka.

pasal sekarang ni aku ada kereta old skol toyota KP-30, model injin aku tak ingat, dah buat rebore masuk piston 1.3 dari injin yg se-spesis ngan stock injin ni, perluka setting carb, sebelum ni pernah juga masuk block 1.5 guna carb asal 1.0 kereta ni. 5 bln macam tu block pecah, so masuk balik ni stock injin 1.0 rebore masuk piston 1.3

KP-30, confirm enjin dia pakai K series punya enjin pasal chassis sudah ada huruf 'K'P, mungkin enjin asal 2k, 3k atau 4k kali
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 9:22 am

klu kancil 850 pnya ovrsize piston brpa..???blh ka pki piston 4g13..??
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 11:28 am

oyoi wrote:
klu kancil 850 pnya ovrsize piston brpa..???blh ka pki piston 4g13..??


kancil 850 ne tobo ka N/A???
klu N/A ada uda msuk piston iswara...
mmang laju jg.. klu enjin tobo kurang2 boleh b'gigit tu.. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 12:31 pm

850 n/a...klu msuk piston iswara 2..xmau ubah apa2 lg ka 2..??
coneting rod dia cmna..??ada apa2 kesan sampingan ka..??
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oyoi wrote:
850 n/a...klu msuk piston iswara 2..xmau ubah apa2 lg ka 2..??
coneting rod dia cmna..??ada apa2 kesan sampingan ka..??

ko dpt piston iswara..ko tggl rebore 4.4mm setiap silinder blok utk msukkn piston iswara p blok 850 ko..konrod pakai blk 850 punya.. kesan sampingan tmbh laju n tmbah cc dari 850cc to 962cc hehehe..asalkn minyak @ tune cun ok bah.. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 5:15 pm

carb klu tkar pki proton tiara pnya ok ka 2..???
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 7:03 pm

mana² carb pun ok bah... Very Happy tapak carb tiara tu ja msti tau mcm mn rupanya...klu jenis double barrel kna buat tapak custom..
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 10:00 pm

cuba buat la blok 850 + pisten besar tgk tahan ka atau x heheheheh, ada cara2 dia supaya boleh tahan, silap buat start enjin x sampai 2 minit bocor blok tu beb Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 10:05 pm

maksud sa pisten besar tu 72mm, kalau 68mm mmg boleh x payah ragu2 hehehehhe.
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime8/5/2009, 10:48 pm

mo mekanik campin buat tu rebore juga bah..hehe..
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime9/5/2009, 8:05 am

perlu ingat ada 2 jenis blok 850 ni (mata belalang dan mata petak) hehehehhe, ada lagi kena buat dan sewaktu dgnnya utk masukkan pisten 72mm tu dgn selamat heheheh.
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime9/5/2009, 5:30 pm

kalu bore blok 850 + 72mm piston cthnya..perlu pakai liner di blok 850 jga ka pioner? supaya safety sikit? cth blok 850 kancil lama..
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PostSubject: Re: oversize piston   oversize piston - Page 2 Icon_minitime9/5/2009, 5:34 pm

bkn pakai linear lagi, kena tukar linear baru tu Laughing
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orait..hehehe.. hihi
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