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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 16 Icon_minitime19/5/2009, 8:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 16 Icon_minitime24/2/2010, 1:12 am

khabar baik... tak mau jual :p, mau masuk muzium tu scanspeak. punya susah aku cari tu. haha. andrew tiada pergi KK jalan2 ka?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 16 Icon_minitime24/2/2010, 8:12 pm

sorry for the late reply..my contact no 0---1----3---8---8---0-----3----0---6-------0..
bah nanti jumpa d kk ok
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 16 Icon_minitime24/2/2010, 11:00 pm

alala andreww npa ko rendam kepingan ko?klo nda memang upgrade sound suda owh...hehe, baru2 ni kwn sa pnya kepingan yg suda d kumpul betan2 kena curi termasuk gilingan skali...hehe
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finalazy84 wrote:
alala andreww npa ko rendam kepingan ko?klo nda memang upgrade sound suda owh...hehe, baru2 ni kwn sa pnya kepingan yg suda d kumpul betan2 kena curi termasuk gilingan skali...hehe

Ni lah ni Lembaga...dulu2 nda masalah pun sa rendam...tabal2 lagi tu...ni urg sudah kumpul 3 bulan tiba2 pula ndalah pula mau bali....apa macam juga...nda dpt juga upgrade ni ICE...kira2 mau angkat scanspeak c CK bah ni...tapi nda dpt sudahlah...duit nda cukup....macam c CK tu nda apalah...anak orang kaya....

macam c Finalazykah...sigu...bulan2 tatap ada duit masuk....ni jual gatah...kurik sana kurik sini...silap2 takurik anu....


Yang kawan ko tu...betan2? nda mungkinlah...urg jual gatah ni tau trick bah...biasanya orang sendiri tu kurik lubang....bertan2 macam mau angkat ohh?? Gilingan lagi tu kana curi? nda patut....
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sbab dorang punya tmpat simpan getah dlm utan...pas 2 rumah jaga jau...hehe dari yg da kstau sa mo 5/4K juga kunu...ndatau la...tamak mo dpt arga melmbung kali...hehe skrg 2 gilingan kna screw trus d simin...kalau ilang juga ndatau la...hehe myb 2 jaga kali yg komplot...ntah la...

ko nda buli kasi jemur balik ka 2 getah yg suda d rndam?mnatau klo kering2 dorg mo?

jgn begitu ba andreww.potong getah lagi bsar gaji dri pngetua owh...dont play2...hehe sya kira mo upgrade HU pn smpai skrg nda teupgrade2 lgi... huhu skrg lgi buln tua.lma lgi gaji...
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bah, pasal getah pula ni... aku belum pasang scanspeak aku sudah andreww target. aku bkn anak org kaya bah, lama aku simpan duit ni, kalau kaya sudah habis habis ODR. hehe.
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finalazy84 wrote:
sbab dorang punya tmpat simpan getah dlm utan...pas 2
rumah jaga jau...hehe dari yg da kstau sa mo 5/4K juga kunu...ndatau
la...tamak mo dpt arga melmbung kali...hehe skrg 2 gilingan kna screw
trus d simin...kalau ilang juga ndatau la...hehe myb 2 jaga kali yg
komplot...ntah la...

ko nda buli kasi jemur balik ka 2 getah yg
suda d rndam?mnatau klo kering2 dorg mo?

jgn begitu ba
andreww.potong getah lagi bsar gaji dri pngetua owh...dont play2...hehe
sya kira mo upgrade HU pn smpai skrg nda teupgrade2 lgi... huhu skrg
lgi buln tua.lma lgi gaji...

Banar tu finalazy...harga gatah sekarang RM5.90 sekilo bah...ko ckplah kalau tabal macam sa punya satu keping mau 18 Kilo....ko darab lah....RM106.40 sekeping ohhh...sekali jual mau 30 keping...ko darab lagilah.....yang kawan ko tu bertan2? ckplah 2 tan...jadi ko darablah 2000 kg x RM5.90 = RM11800 ohhh...dua bulan saja boleh antam Mcintosh sama scanspeak all over ohh...tapi tu kalau kira bersihlah soma....

Pasal kawan ko tu sa jamin tu urg dia sendiri tu yang antam...kali dia pun ndada duit mau bali scanspeak.....

ckmoy007 wrote:
bah, pasal getah pula ni... aku belum pasang scanspeak
aku sudah andreww target. aku bkn anak org kaya bah, lama aku simpan
duit ni, kalau kaya sudah habis habis ODR. hehe.

Ckmoy....bah nanti sa udah jual gatah sa 30 kaping ni sa g bali ODR.....tapi alalala....banyak utanglah mau bayar....bagi dua lagi ama bugis....kredit kad lagi...itu ini lagi....nda dptlah ni....harap2 mau dpt scanspeak 2nd hand saja bah ni.....kalau ko mo jual bagi tau sa ja k....
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memang da syak 2 tukang jaga a.k.a tukang potong...hehe
kali da boring suda juga bagi 2 tu gatah.pas 2 da tingu bnyak suda trus da antam la...hehe sa pun planing mo mnanam gatah juga tpi baru buka tanah pn sakit suda...hehe

patut sndiri potong ba baru la syok...full masuk poket.buli kasi complete trus system 1 kreta.mantap abis owh.hehe

ba kluar tajuk suda kita...hehe

sa mo tnya bah, slalu sa rsa klo awal pagi sa main lagu, volume sikit sja pn kuat suda.clean n clear.tpi bila tngahari macam tdk kuat.mid dngn sub pn sma.klo panas amp pndai kurang kuat ka?
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b4 u look at the prob technically...actually it was environmentally, physiologically and psychologically related prob..ex. in the morning there will be less car, less people walking & talking, thus less noise when compared to peak hour (tengah hari)..then u'll feel the amp not loud enough and then u will think the amp is affected with heat or whatsoever.. SQ style ICE - Page 16 360220 just my 2 cents opinion.. final lazy, cuti sekolah bulan 3 kita jumpa d kk crita2 k

minggu dpn mau beli amp JBL BP600.1 hehe, ingat mau upgrade HU pakai p80, tp nantila mau pakai p99 alang2, mau save duit dulu..
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finalazy, sepatutnya tak akan berbeza. semua equipment ada operation range bah, kira kira dari -20 sampai 70 celcius. within this range, the equipment shud be working like usual. kecuali kalau cable panas akan menambah rintangan la, itu mau tanya cikgu fizik sudah, haha.

powerrud, 9887 ke p80 tidak kira upgrade la, itu tukar taste saja. same lvl bah. P99 bukannya terbest. dia org marketing kaw kaw saja. kalau ko suka vocal atau slow music, u try HX D2 1st la, i kinda like the sound, not bad at all. kalau mau pioneer, then P9 will be a gud choice. i was told that P9/90 is better sounding than P99, cos P99 is the compact version of P90 with ODR DSP onli. dun rush in buying HU, pilih pelan2. JBL BP600.1, is it the crown series ka? which sub u plan to use with it? masih infiniti? berapa ko dapat utk monoblock tu?
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Finalazy.....temperature memamng ada effects on soundslah....ni pasal sounds ni adalah gelombang....it required medium to propagate...... ko tingu artikel ni....sa bagi satu ja....kalau ko google batimbun ko dapat....http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/HighSchool/Sound/tempandspeed.htm

CK its not about how tolerance the amp is....its about how the sounds travel to our ear..... ko checklah finalazy banyak paramaters will be affected by the surrounding u r in...pagi2 or malam may be x bising....and temperature is lower....making the surrounding air compacted and become a good medium....sounds wave travel faster on solids than on air.....but also get dampened faster on solids...tapi x boleh buat general conclusionslah....

macam tu intercooler punya functions juga mah....kasih sejuk air supaya more compact...so more oxygen can be package in...that will make burning better....with more oxygen then better burning...

n satu lagi sy assumelah.....ur charging system...tapi ni wild guesslah....nanti sa check kalau ada masa....now bangun awal ni mau pg check bugis takut dia menipu....duit tu geng....btw pasal kawan ko tu lagi.....suruh dia jgn percaya tu tukang potong....jgn simpan dalam utan....bawa balik pg rumah bilang.....mau kasih bunga dia suruh tu tukang potong pg rumah dia....kerja sikit tapi worth it...

and lastly....ko ada tanah mau jualkah? kalau ada bagi tau ahhh....bukan tanah dalam karung arr....sa mau tanah 10 ekar....mau tanam gatah hehehehe.....
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i think u r right CK, coz there are so many debate about " 9887 vs p80" and they are in the same league...mungkin aku terikut2 cakap diorang p80 is better coz bleh fine tune lg lagipun faceplate nya nampak professional sikit dari apline yg blink2 tu..tp aku dgr org punya p80 macam sama juga, ndatau la kalau aku tune lain nanti.

hx d2 clarion? will check it..

jbl bp600.1 new old stock, org jual rm1k including shipping..dari power series..ya masih pakai kappa sub..gain kc low, tdk push tu speaker pakai amp punya power, natural...yeah
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ck, aku tgk d u tube ko punya video, naturallll, walaupun blum dgr live di kereta ko SQ style ICE - Page 16 360220 ..pakai f#1 punya mid bass? not many ppl use alpine speakers..
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ck, aku tgk d u tube ko punya video, naturallll, walaupun blum dgr live di kereta ko SQ style ICE - Page 16 360220 ..pakai f#1 punya mid bass? not many ppl use alpine speakers..

tu variant scanspeak 18w lah bruther....alpine ambil nama ja....tapi alpine F#1 lah...sa heran bah c CK ni d mana bah dia dapat soma speaker tu...berapa harga ko beli tu midbass ck? ada lagi?
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tu alpine F#1 aku beli rm1.2k di russia, 2nd hand la, modded voice coil and spyder for playing better in the doors. ori F#1 need enclosure, kekurangannya hanya tak boleh main kuat sangat, mudah pecah bunyinya, tapi mmg transparent dan natural. andrew, ada lagi tu tapi ori F#1 la, lebih baik ko cari kat singapore.

powerrud, 1k utk tu mono ok ba, tdk mahal juga, i think it's a gud buy. Smile
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S**T happens wit my car today...tersangat2 marah n sakit hati...aircool windscreen baru pasang tebuka balik..ndamau repair sendiri, nanti ada bubble..mau balik kedai td tutup suda..and the worst thing is, my audio setup suda lari!!!!! ndataula kali masa dorang buka center console kereta aku td tuk tukar blank single din..aku hangin sampai d kepala suda ni..sudala penat kita setting sedap2, aku salin juga setting ku di buku kecil supaya nda lupa, tp nda dpt suda sound tu...AAAAAAAAARGHHH mau ja aku buang 9887 tu..very soi la today.. bsok pg balik kdai tu
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ck, nda jd bli tu jbl, bgus aku pkai duit tu trade in aku puna 9887, ndatau apa penyakit ngan HU aku punya ni, 3x suda trjadi pandai lari setting sendiri, n the worst is today, even tune pakai setting sama lain suda soundnya, apa lagi, aku off kereta n naik rumah, btl2 teda mood mau tune balik harini...really hate that..mlm ni bawa bini jalan2 pakai kancil ja, teda mood mau pakai vios tu slagi lum ok
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kalau mau main active, itulah risk dia. tapi active bagus utk train telinga la. salin setting yg sama pun tak guna, lebih baik tune dengan telinga. mesti check tu amp gain juga, setting sama di HU, tapi lain gain beza juga bunyinya. main passive confirm setting tak lari,hehe. good luck in finding ur sound bro.
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ok thanks...will look into it, but my time correction also lost, it return to 0.0 for all speakers..
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tu battery connect longgar i think. double check juga la.
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wa kijap juga smpai 2 pages...hehe
powerrud u said dorg ada buka center console kn?wiring HU ada potong wire tau pkai harness? klo potong wire myb dorg kasar2 trus wire ada longgar tau tercabut time buka center console.cek juga 2 la.
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tq ck n finalazy, aku cek besok...
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bro sini ada JBL BP1200.1 for rm1200. Smile
http://mycarhifi.com/carhififorum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6649
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ck cuba ko cek ni, aku suda msg dia, dia bilang ori, manatau ko kenal atau biasa deal ngan dia..tu jbl gto mau bagi adik la

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1087944
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tu ori punya. u cuba minta photo dia punya rca connector, ori punya gold plated without red and white stripe. fake one has red and white stripes. tapi ni felix dari automotive genesis, satu kedai di KL la. ok juga tu, last time tu howie choo pun kerja di sana juga.
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