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WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD

What is SQ?
There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


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Ah Leap wrote:

Wah Powerrud bikin Pillar ngan siapa d semporna?? Ah Seng ka??ehehhe..dialah yg set up aku punya sound ni dulu..kim slam ngan dia..

ya c ah seng yg buat...gambar pillar nanti di upload..ala, nanti aku dtg sana aku smpaikan slm ko...

andrew...ya c ah seng quite famous, but very low profile..he's one of the best in sabah..autosound tu tdk boleh la, harap brg mahal ja..

wa sa suda kna pnyakit powerrud.
Tdi sa p MENENGOK (knon) hu dngn casing 2 change the ori hu.fuji mhl gila jual 2 double din casing RM550 less pn RM520.last2 p yu classic RmM380...punya jau beza.dn sa bli 9887 juga sna RM1200.

powerrud wrote:

Ah Leap wrote:

Wah Powerrud bikin Pillar ngan siapa d semporna?? Ah Seng ka??ehehhe..dialah yg set up aku punya sound ni dulu..kim slam ngan dia..

ya c ah seng yg buat...gambar pillar nanti di upload..ala, nanti aku dtg sana aku smpaikan slm ko...

andrew...ya c ah seng quite famous, but very low profile..he's one of the best in sabah..autosound tu tdk boleh la, harap brg mahal ja..

sokong sm ko Powerrud..mmg ah seng gud dlm perbikinan sound ni

wa, final dah angkat HU baru. congrats bro. sudah lama research ka? kebelakangan ni, penyakit ICE menulari KK la, siapa turun, terus beli ICE. respect...

finalazy84 wrote:

wa sa suda kna pnyakit powerrud.
Tdi sa p MENENGOK (knon) hu dngn casing 2 change the ori hu.fuji mhl gila jual 2 double din casing RM550 less pn RM520.last2 p yu classic RmM380...punya jau beza.dn sa bli 9887 juga sna RM1200.

atooookoi...nah terbeli suda heheh, bahaya ni penyakit, bahaya dari H1N1...ya memang btl, yu classic jauh lebih murah, nasib dorang teda jual DLS oo, kalau tidak memang bli sana la...

bah pas ni u tube tarus!!!

-ya kgboyz..kamu yg d sana lagi la kenal btl ngan dia..thumbs up for Ah Seng!!!!...haha mau angkat p90 nanti ngan dia.

aiii...ingat tdk tepost tdi...hehe
rsanya klo minta yu classic order macam buli la.dorg amik dri KL.tpi mo 3-7days la.sa teruja juga nmpak DLS d fuji tdi...haha tpi nasib sa masih ada kewarasan...c powerrud 2 kasi jangkit...hehe bnyak lgi mo beli ni.mid, amp dn woofer.pelan2 la...huhu

Eehhhh finalazy....mana tiba2 dapat duit ni? Jual gatahkah? Hebat ni....terus 9887 bah.....ndalah sudah berani menyakat ko ni...hebat2 bah korang sekarang ni.....sy masih lagilah pakai sony ni......biarlah yg penting nda makan pasir....

bro final selalu main credit card ba, sebab tu, mati pun mau beli di kedai, haha. bah, andrew, kita semua tunggu ko make the first step sudah, semua org sudah menuju ke depan sudah. ada wawasan 2020 ba... haha. getah sudah habis jual?

yu classic kat mana? putatan which part? i jarang pergi sana ba. sana installation macam mana?

finalazy84 wrote:

aiii...ingat tdk tepost tdi...hehe
rsanya klo minta yu classic order macam buli la.dorg amik dri KL.tpi mo 3-7days la.sa teruja juga nmpak DLS d fuji tdi...haha tpi nasib sa masih ada kewarasan...c powerrud 2 kasi jangkit...hehe bnyak lgi mo beli ni.mid, amp dn woofer.pelan2 la...huhu

palan2 bro..haha..kc tune tu 9887 brabis!! hbis la minyak rm20 ni tuk tuning saja hohoho, tp c final ni terer bah jugak kan, tune 2 minit ja

tune sa nda pndai...nda pernah tune HU macam ni...haha jdi sa kena bnyak membaca n study 2 brg la...hehe

sa tdk psang sna.housing double din pannel ni hari bru p amik.

yalor CK, klo mo cash smpai mati pn nda pndai tebeli 2...hehe msti hilang 2 duit ntah mna2.tpi mo smpan duit juga ni planing mo bli comp set.myb ni sa cari 2nd hand la.actly 2 HU sa tdk mau bli bah.2 housing sja.tpi sa kna poison kaw2 oleh 2 amoi trus tebeli...lgipn arga pn buli tahan juga.hehe Yu classic dkat sblah KFC putatan.

thanks for the direction, lain kali bila free pergi tengok tengok. tu active HU, kalau mo tune basic senang saja, jangan main EQ dulu, set ko punya crossover freq and slope, know wats best for ur speakers. then adjust the gain at ur amp till u like the tonality, then mula time alignment, try doing it for 1 side onli, doing both side will make it thin sounding. listen to the result, troubleshooting then last last onli EQ. hope it helps.

happy tuning...good luck finding ur sound

final, ko pernah try or tengok kawan2 punya 9887 ka, maybe PEQ+ x over will drive u crazy..maybe u can change the eq to GEQ first......i dont use those EQ that much but the crossover !

ck mau tanya bah..macam mana mau upload gambar cni ah..aku nda la pernah mengupload gmbar d forum2 dari dulu..ni 1st time hehe..

erm...ok, will try.just got my double din housing this morning.monday will wake up early n install the hu.

Hmmm...my speaker yg standet pnya.n ada 4 speakers.myb better i play the front speaker first la.

Btw, ada 2 button tuk uplod gmbr sni bwah.uplod n copy paste the link.
Powerrud bukn ko guna 9887 ka sblum ni?ada suggestion?hehe

powerrud wrote:

happy tuning...good luck finding ur sound

final, ko pernah try or tengok kawan2 punya 9887 ka, maybe PEQ+ x over will drive u crazy..maybe u can change the eq to GEQ first......i dont use those EQ that much but the crossover !

ck mau tanya bah..macam mana mau upload gambar cni ah..aku nda la pernah mengupload gmbar d forum2 dari dulu..ni 1st time hehe..

ko pergi to www.photobucket.com dan register 1 account. lepas tu upload semua photo yg mau tunjuk. ko tengok balik 'my album', sana ada code masing2 di bawah photo2 tu. guna yg "img]http://xxx1234.jpg[/img]", copy and paste tu code, kau tim la.

waw...ko udah pasanglah tu 9887 ko? pakai stock speaker?

ooo astaga, kalau tau awal2 lg sa wat g2, ingat bleh tampal trus c ni...mmm ndapalah, bgus lg upload video trus..

mm mau suggest apa tu a final? eq? x-over?, TA? ada master CK bah c ni....tp aku bleh la tlong sikit2 xplain apa2 yg aku tau pasal alpine 9887 ni.

senang aja bah tu mau tune....main x over ja dulu....main tu freq, slope and gain...kalau ada phase pun main juga....yg lain macam peq or geq kasih flat aja soma...TA pun biar ja dulu...sampai ko dpt xover yg sedap d dengar ko try dengar beberapa hari....ada saja tu ko dpt kesan kelemahan dia...then tukar lagi....dengar lagi, tukar lagi dengar lagi....sampai dpt that sweet point...

since ko x tau apa2 parameters speaker ko...kena hati2 sikit set to frequency...

tu tweeter yg paling senang terbakar kalau main active. nasib tweeter aku tak keluar asap bila aku pasang aku punya tu. installer ku terbalik pasang RCA mid dan tweeter, kimak... bila aku on, tweeter tiada bunyi tu, terkejut aku sangka tweeter dah rosak, pas tu kasi kuat lagi, eh, tiba2 tweeter main bass pula... terus off tu HU dan tukar balik RCA. s**l... my balls pun shrink habis. optimum x-over freq is 4kHz, start from there la. my morel i set 3.15kHz @ 12dB/oct.

Andreww wrote:

senang aja bah tu mau tune....main x over ja dulu....main tu freq, slope and gain...kalau ada phase pun main juga....yg lain macam peq or geq kasih flat aja soma...TA pun biar ja dulu...sampai ko dpt xover yg sedap d dengar ko try dengar beberapa hari....ada saja tu ko dpt kesan kelemahan dia...then tukar lagi....dengar lagi, tukar lagi dengar lagi....sampai dpt that sweet point...

Thats correct!! ni IMHO la a (aku rasa ko pun tau juga)...suda ko tune pakai CD Emma, tag mclaren etc, kalau suda sedap, ko test pula ngan lagu rock/metal, kc balance tu hi freq (rock ni kuat bunyi gtar yg harsh)tu ja..tp kalau tdk ada yg metal2, pakai lagu taylor swift pun bleh bah sbb lagunya bising,..ha kalau adjust2 d x over n nda dpt tune suda ke freq yg ko mau, baru adjust d eq kc balance n compensate lost freq or lower down undesired freq..

suda tune hbis, dgr balik cd sq test tu..ok ka tidak..
hebat ba juga ko tu final, kacang ja..

ckmoy007 wrote:

tu tweeter yg paling senang terbakar kalau main active. nasib tweeter aku tak keluar asap bila aku pasang aku punya tu. installer ku terbalik pasang RCA mid dan tweeter, kimak... bila aku on, tweeter tiada bunyi tu, terkejut aku sangka tweeter dah rosak, pas tu kasi kuat lagi, eh, tiba2 tweeter main bass pula... terus off tu HU dan tukar balik RCA. s**l... my balls pun shrink habis. optimum x-over freq is 4kHz, start from there la. my morel i set 3.15kHz @ 12dB/oct.

hehe, sakap kutur....aku punya tweeter 4khz, slope 12 yg paling open sounding n terkawal

well, wat cn i expect from a stock speaker kn.hehe xover ni pa actly?sory noob question.stahu sa xover kasi bagi2 freq.which freq yo which speaker cam 2 la.btul ka?

Btw sa lom psang 2 HU.i dont trust acc shop 2 2 touch my 2nd baby.hehe tdi sa nmpak yu classic psang HU d 350z.lpas dorg siap psang memang clean la wiring.tpi msa psang 2 memang ganas la.nasib sja tdk patah 2 brg2 dorg buka.hehe

I'll do the best i can 4 the hu la.c how far the stock speaker can go.hehe

x-over ni limit tu freq yg sampai ke speaker tu. HPF/LPF in other words. macam HPF utk tweeter ko set 4kHz, then dari 4kHz mula masuk tweeter. as for slope, tengok berapa steep dia punya cutting, susah mau explain sini, example 4kHz @ 24dB/oct, tu mula potong dari 4kHz sampai 3kHz... not so good at explaining this, can someone help me. kalau u pernah tengok tu graph, u faham la tu, 24dB terus turun, 6dB tarik jauh mungkin sampai 1.5kHz. kalau jumpa, senang lagi mau explain. sorri ah, final.

finalazy84 wrote:

well, wat cn i expect from a stock speaker kn.hehe xover ni pa actly?sory noob question.stahu sa xover kasi bagi2 freq.which freq yo which speaker cam 2 la.btul ka?

Btw sa lom psang 2 HU.i dont trust acc shop 2 2 touch my 2nd baby.hehe tdi sa nmpak yu classic psang HU d 350z.lpas dorg siap psang memang clean la wiring.tpi msa psang 2 memang ganas la.nasib sja tdk patah 2 brg2 dorg buka.hehe

I'll do the best i can 4 the hu la.c how far the stock speaker can go.hehe

bleh bah, stock pun ok juga tuk test2..yg paling simple punya xplanation x over tu kerjanya melepaskan atau menghalang (filtering bah) certain frequency ke speaker..2. tuk set gain..(correct me if im wrong)

wah, susah mau xplain tlong xplain ni ck..tu alpine teda graph ba, susah mo phm, contoh la HPF set 4k slope 24, dgr bunyi cymbals nya, kalau macam tersumbat tu (depending on ur system la) try 18 then 12. kalau 6 telampau bising sbb banyak hi freq terlepas..

sama sama call for help, lol... andrew... ur turn.

power. ur tweeter sudah hangkang? nampak ko post di icehifi tu. terkejut aku.