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What is SQ?
There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm

nda payah bah tingu2 tu graph....bikin susah saja tu....kalau point dia 80hz HPF slope dia 6 db maksud dia, tu freq kena potong sana 80 hz....since ko guna HPF so semua freq d bawah 80 hz nda kena mainlah kunun....tapi pasal ko guna 6 db saja slope sebenarnya kena main juga tu d bawah 80 hz tu...cuma kunun kena kasih kurang sikitlah volume dia....tapi 6 db banyaklah talapas tu sabanarnya....

Ko sigukan....kali ni analogi buli pakai.....kalau ko buka tu pintu pagar basar2....abislah belarian tu budak2 keluar....tu 0 db lah....semua talapas...tapi kalau ko c tutup sikit tu pagar kuranglah sikit tu budak2 talapas....kalau ko c tutup lagi kici maksud dia slope ko guna makin basarlah tu kunun.... kalau ko tutup abis tu pagar nda taulah pula brapa db tu slope dia arr....eehhh ada boleh fahamkan ni analogi sa?

kalau contoh dia lagi ko main tu piano.....kalau ko cut dia 18 db sana 3.15 khz.....kalau tu piano punya bunyi tinggggggggggggggggggggg.......katalah ada 10 tu g secara natural....tapi pasal ko cut 18 db tu bunyi g tinggallah 5....kalau ko guna 12 db kali ada lah 8 kali kepanjangan g dia....kalau 6 db semua kepanjangan ting tu kedengaranlah

atau dengan kata lain berapa besar volume n brapa banyak frekuensi yang ko mau filter tu terlepas pg speaker ko.....

tapi kes ko ni ada masalah sikit....pasal ko tia tau apa kemampuan range speaker ko....jadi 1st kena try2 lah pelan2 cari limit speakers ko.....lepas tu udah siap....barulah ko guna tu x over ko untuk cari bunyi yg sedap untuk kereta ko.....

ko try lu lah tweeter ko....entam 8khz....kasih slope 18 db kah....pelan2 ko c turunlah.....sampai tahap mana ndada bunyi ganjil keluar.....tapi kalau tabakar jangan kasih salah sa arr.....

jgn juga lupa kasih ngam2 gain sana amp ko.....

ckmoy007 wrote:

thanks for the direction, lain kali bila free pergi tengok tengok. tu active HU, kalau mo tune basic senang saja, jangan main EQ dulu, set ko punya crossover freq and slope, know wats best for ur speakers. then adjust the gain at ur amp till u like the tonality, then mula time alignment, try doing it for 1 side onli, doing both side will make it thin sounding. listen to the result, troubleshooting then last last onli EQ. hope it helps.

Jgn ko lupa Yu Classics ada tiga tu cawangan dorang sana KK....satu sana KK, kg air kaitu....satu sana Kepayan....area kepayan ridge and satu sana putatan tu lah....yg putatan tu glamer sikit.....

ckmoy007 wrote:

power. ur tweeter sudah hangkang? nampak ko post di icehifi tu. terkejut aku.

nama aku silap regis sana ko tau juga a hehe...no la, factory's fault..1 ja yg prob, mungkin coil atau dome tidak ngam di pasang...ada bunyi crack2 tuk certain lagu..ingat cable, tukar sebelah, masih juga sama...

contact fuji, dorang bilang speaker teda warranty...punyala aku panas, bising sa dlm tepon..nasib dorang suruh kirim ja utk d cek kalau bleh claim..mau tunggu brapa lama..gila la fuji ni..

wah andrew..panjang lebar, siap analogi pagar lg tu hehe

powerrud wrote:

ckmoy007 wrote:

power. ur tweeter sudah hangkang? nampak ko post di icehifi tu. terkejut aku.

nama aku silap regis sana ko tau juga a hehe...no la, factory's fault..1 ja yg prob, mungkin coil atau dome tidak ngam di pasang...ada bunyi crack2 tuk certain lagu..ingat cable, tukar sebelah, masih juga sama...

contact fuji, dorang bilang speaker teda warranty...punyala aku panas, bising sa dlm tepon..nasib dorang suruh kirim ja utk d cek kalau bleh claim..mau tunggu brapa lama..gila la fuji ni..

wah andrew..panjang lebar, siap analogi pagar lg tu hehe

Nilah masalah ni...mmg sudah confirm factory fault kenapa pula ndada warranty? Bukan satu dua ratus bah harga tu ko beli....bagus ja ko order terus dari audio creation...boleh harap dorang tu....ko add aja c Mike pg YM ko...cepat dan tepat dia tu membalas.....very nice and friendly lagi....products dia setakat ni dijamin tada fault....and tada masalah tu warranty tu....adakah ko baru pakai beberapa hari dorang sudah mau lepas tangan? Panas juga saya dengar ni....btw hari tu ko tada test masa beli?

ya audio creation jauh lg bgus, tp dorang nda jual dls..tula pasal bro, baru tu aku tepon tauke fuji lg tu, bleh pula teda warranty..geram aku...suda test, tp mana la dgr btl masa tu, subtle ja bunyi cracknya, tp kalau lagu yg resonant tinggi mula la tu.. contoh bunyi piano tp ada bunyi pasir2..sakit hati mendengar..

wah punya pnjang suda...thanx...nanti sa experimen...nanti papa sya update.

powerrud ko pnya DLS ka mksud ko?aiya...suda la jau mo dtg kk...klo teda warranty sya pn panas owh.3K ba tu.buli suda boikot 2 fuji. tpi bos fuji memang ada sombong la.ari 2 sya tnya 2 HU housing, mo minta kurang da buat muka lain2 pas 2 da kasi less RM20 trus da angkat tlefon, crita ntah sma siapa.so sya pn jln trus la.huhu macam tdk mo org beli sja da 2.

tula, bila bos buat muka lanjiao, paling tak best, terus aku jalan. i pun kena juga dari tu autosound, i pakai selekeh saja masuk tanya harga installation, cakap tu sifu sangat busy, mau tengok barang baru tau harga, tanya 1 woofer box mau berapa, oh itu rm300-500. mataiii....

my deepest sympathy to power. kesian baru tengah syok, kena problem warranty juga. tu fuji bukan distributor ka? tiada warranty? no warranty card? boleh komplen dia org kat persatuan pengguna.

ya, final.. tu tweeter nobelium..tula yg peliknya, amp ja kunun ada warranty..bsok mau buka n hantar balik, biarla 1 teda dulu, yg pnting puas hati kalau dpt tukar..

tu 1 lg aku pelik, nobelium tu aku dpt kotak yg dalam ja, kotak nobelium yg luar tu teda diabilang suda hancur, warranty card teda, nasib ja ada sticker NTC tu percaya la sikit aku tu ori.

ya dorang la distributor DLS sbah swk

haaa tula final, dia tidak mau lyan tu kalau bli yg murah2 ja, kalau yg smpai 3 k tu barula dia lyan brabis, tp kalau rosak irresponsible pula..pas dpt tweeter baru aku ndala kali suda mau bli sana..bgus lg yu classic sama sound east aritu aku pg tengok2

sounds east punya tawkeh tu sa pernah cerita2 nampak frenly and customer oriented....tempat c powerud beli dls tu sa pun pernah kena bagi muka panjang....sampai sekarang mmg langsung udah x pernah masuk sana....dls sa mmg x berapa berani beli cos tu barang banyak sangat tiruan....tu Modern Car Accessories sana dakat servay tabakar tu pun ada jual DLS tapi tia taulah orikah nda.... cuba korang contact ada member sana mycarhifi nick dia hybrid org sandakan....sa rasa dia pakai full dls...korang tanya dia dari mana dia dpt tu dls dia....

mana tu soundeast? apa yg dia org jual? hybrid guna DLS Iridium 6.3 sama IR12, amp semua DLS Ultimate. dasyat tu. DLS mmg banyak tiruan, tapi setau saya, nobelium so far tiada, yg lain semua ada. focal pun sama, selain utopia semua ada tiruan.

yu classic bgus 2 taukeh...friendly lgi...tpi 2 friendly la yg bahaya...haha
sa psang tinted sna buli2 smpai tebeli carpet dn airpress...huhu last2 mo 600 juga terbang...hehe

speaker memang teda waranty ka slalu?wa powerrud berani juga ko beli 2 DLS 3K teda warranty...

btw soundeast sna putatan blakang KFC.da sa pegi sna...taukeh memang bgus...pegi sna crita pn da ta kisah...hehe sbab dia sngat enjoy crita psal sound.dorg bleh buat pillar suma2 tu juga.ada 1 vigo buat sound d kereta dia.buang seat blakang buat concept suda...hehe...syg owh 2 vigo da...hehe

ugh cant stand the temptation...nasib la garage sya teda lmpu...hehe

just finish wiring the harness...here i share some pict...tomoro buli psang tros...hehe


10% siap.

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ta sabar dia jadi cam ni

kenapa semua main sound sampai putatan ni... di likas/kelombong tiada ka?

nice HU u have bro... ko tune pelan2, nanti aku balik mo dengar ni...

CK speaker sa stendet sja ba.woofer pn ported box.hehe

suda sa psang 2 HU.mo juga 2 jam sa bikin smpai lmbat p skolah...hehe mo psang 2 housing bnyak krja.2 aircond pnya dial pn suma mo buka..hehe

the result, lom buat apa2 setting bunyi (psang sja) lebih syok dari HU sa yg lama+preamp. now I know stndard HU lama sya...huhuh mo bca manual dlu...nda sa fham ni bnda2...hehe kesian btul sa ni...huhu 1 ja yg nda syok skrg ni harness tuk radio nda ngam...huhu salah beli suda...ndapa la...jarang juga dngar radio...kna potong jua la 2 wyer nmpaknya

hopfly someday buli ada system yg cam ko bro...hehe

Wah hebat pula c finalzy ni....buli pasang tu harness sendiri....bulilah buka kadai aksesori ni....nanti sa minta pasang ko lah finalazy bila tu mcintosh sa udah sampai arrr....

Bah rakamlah nanti c masuk utube arr....

sure u can do it bro, juz be patience and learn on ur journey of ICE. just a tip, alwez prepare a reserve of spare cash in case any nice offer came out, can grab at the first minute. haha. later after class u tune sikit sikit and rekod la. we all wanna hear it on youtube.

adeh...pening mo tingu 2 xover...nda sa paham...huhu RCA pn sa slah smbung...hehe punya la.front speaker p blakang pula.nasib baik left right ngam... btw, stock speaker sya teda tweeter.so xover set yg hi,mid and low sja 4.2way. bila sya buka 2 xover setting dia ada low, mid and hi section.evry section ada cut-off frequency,slope, output level. sa pusing2 macam teda beza sja.myb tlinga sa mo kurik lgi ni...hehe sa perasan bunyi ada beza bila sya kasi adjust 2 slope.now sa set balik p ori setting.

btw 2 harness snang sja ba 2 smbung.colour coding suda ada.kalau teda colour coding...hehe ta pelu potong wyer sda la.next time want 2 change HU wiring balik d harness sja n plug n play.proton, perodua n toyota harness bnyak jual d kdai wiring kreta.tpi honda susa cari.sa beli d ebay 2 mo 3 bulan smpai.RM40 juga la trmasuk shipping (itu harness RM9 lebih2 sja) shipping mhl.tpi antena harnes sa salah amik...huhu nmpaknya kena potong juga 2 wyer antena.

hehehehe...nah sa upload ni lagu...syok ni lagu, balik2 sa dengar masa drive....cuma bunyi yg ni ganjil sikit pandai ilang2 and jalan2 kiri kanan heheheh.....pusing tu mic hp mo tangkap bunyi dia...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hOWUb29cAk

wah banyak suda post ni...ndatau mau reply mana satu hehe.

ha macam mana ko post gambar c tu final, sama macam kamu ajar ari tu ka..eh tu honda teda tweeter meh? ndapa, aku ada stock toyota punya tweeter kalau ko mau FOC hehe..

yeah someday we will reach sys like ck's oso.. oh..kalau aku mau tu TA2 3 biji tarus hehe..tunggu c ck jual tu amp 3k baru aku mau bli hehe

of coz alpine tu jauh lebih sedap dari stock...yeah, rekod tu sound, we wanna hear it..(kawan yg bli HU tp semua org celebrate..thats the bonding power of ICE )

wah andrew..main techno ka..bini sa pasang Black eyed peas pun aku pening udah dangar, tp bleh la tuk test blast2 sikit2 hehe..tp kalau metal memang bini aku pula yg pening.

sa lom berjaya set lgi...hehe so mo post pn teda guna...hehe
honda teda tweeter sbab sya amik S spec.teda tweeter.hehe

smpan la 2 tweeter ko power.in 9-10 years time of course u want 2 change new car kn.hehe smpan balik 2 tweeter lor...hehe

2moro morning try explore lgi la.burn more fuel

post gmbar cam 2 la.btw, npa klo sa rakam vid, bila bass ja trus slow bunyi yg lain.sa guna nokia 5800XM.macam sngat sensitive dngn bass.

ba, ni power dan andreww, berhabis mau aim aku punya TA2, mau kasi simpan safe deposit sudah ni. haha. final, jgn ko nanti mula aim aku punya TA2 pula.

TA2 tu tube amp ka?siapa juga tdk mo..hehe pa macam ba ko dpt brg2 cam 2 CK?mesti hari2 ko siasat d internet kn...

tpi tu brg far beyond my budget.otai2 sja 2.tpi slepas dpt comp speaker mo cari amp suda 2...hehe myb i'll go for sub first la

TA2 tu hybrid tube amp, meaning pre-amp is tube, amplifier section is still solid state. according to many, pure tube amp in car is quite impossible due to the unstable in-car condition. pure class A too, it takes up a lot of energy and produces a huge lot of heat.
mestilah tiap2 hari siasat internet ni, kalau tidak nice offer cepat terlepas. sini mmg banyak variety, banyak aku belajar ttg ICE di russia. banyak org main hi end sebab dia org mampu berbelanja besar. dia org punya cable and wiring sampai beribu-ribu tu. tu component speaker ko agak mo berapa budget punya? semua rm1.5k ka? hehe.
P/S: dun turn on thesub when recording. since u r having a ported box, i reckon it produces lotsa echo and vibration, dats why when recording, it will muddle the sound recorded.

owh 2 pula cerita d sebalik ultimate amp 2.ko suda psang ka 2 amp?musti mo dngar 2 hasilnya ada sya nmpak 2 amp dkat FB ko CK...hehe

1.5-2K la g2 for comp speaker.hehe bah sa off 2 sub bru try record.masih bingung2 dngn 2 player lgi.

Wah..jauh udah cerita kamu ni..I can't go diz far ooh..uuhuhhhu..