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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 4 Icon_minitime19/5/2009, 8:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 4 Icon_minitime27/8/2009, 6:14 pm

alala...memang nda smpat mo jmpa ni...hehe busy pla ni ari...next time la bro...wuhuhu klo yg dekat fuji 2 compont set yg arga 1000 lebi2 sikit 2 pa macam 2?low end pnya DLS ka?low end pn suda macam 2 ka?ish2...dkat yu classic ada 1 ninja king pasanng component arga 10K + brand helix...ndatau la pa macam bunyi 2...hehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 4 Icon_minitime28/8/2009, 12:00 am

tu DLS R6A series reference, mid end di DLS, yg entry lvl tu series Classic, hi end, series Ultimate. series reference ada 2 model kalau tak silap, MS6A dan R6A. yg ultimate series ada banyak model, aku punya salah satu dari series ultimate, DLS Nobelium 6.2. ninja king yg pasang helix tu, aku agak top 3 way comp dari helix la, Helix Competition RS6.3. tu memang mahal, tapi di russia tu agak 4k saja, sini barang hi end mmg overpriced. bunyi dia tu mmg sngat clean and precise, the typical helix sound. tapi ada org yg tak suka bunyinya juga, mau tengok taste juga bah. banyak yg kata bunyi helix cantik api kekurangan emosi. aku pun ada amp helix P400 Precision, bunyinya mmg cantik, lebih sesuai untuk main instrumental songs. untuk vocal lebih baik guna brand lain yg berbunyi warm and laid back, example, Morel. tak pa lah bro, kami meet di bulan Januari la, aku akan balik KK sekejap. Smile boleh ko tanya sama si Walter bagaimana bunyi system aku, dia pernah dengar.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 4 Icon_minitime28/8/2009, 12:49 am

walauweh...punya jau arga sini dngn sana...ko pnya DLS mesti ko beli sna 2 kn...best2...wuhuhu kepunan2...ya btul, 3 way component...
bah kita jumpa d january la...hehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 4 Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 1:06 am

Devious wrote:
I would like to meet up and listen to ur system, tapi I'm in Sandakan rite now.. nad u're going back to school kan?.. so if u dnt mind to share ur system setup here?..
sorry for late reply, just saw this when i was browsing around. we can meet end of january 2010. i might come back for holidays. u can listen to my setup if u search for DLS TA2 in youtube, just to give u a rough impression on my system.
as for ur request. my system :
HU: ADDZEST/CLARION DRX9255
Amp: front - DLS TA2 hybrid tube amp, sub - Tornado(cap ayam) 2ch amp
Front speaker: DLS Nobelium 6.2
Sub: Rainbow Profi 12
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bro ckmoy...ko punys woofer ported or seal?
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sealed 1.5 cu.ft.
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speaker mid dkat pintu kena buat spacer ka? sbab ari 2 pegi d yu classic, da ckp mesti buat spaya speaker kluar sikit then bunyi bagus.lengkap da promosi buat tweeter d A pillar lgi spaya bunyi tembak ngam.tpi 2 pn mo rm500. Sad
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spacer tu mau tgk pintu, kalau mid tak muat mmg mesti guna spacer. tapi kalau tak buat soundproof atau spacer yg ayam(poor workmanship), akan hasilkan bunyi gegaran. pasal tweeter di A pillar tu jangan buat dulu, try ko test dekat dashboard, angle mana yg lebih sedap. kalau sudah tetap baru buat A pillar, kalau tidak selalu mau ubahsuai A pillar susah payah oh, atau lebih senang guna tweeter pod, boleh tukar angle bila bila saja. ko mau install set yg mana?
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set yg mana?hehe sa punya hasrat ni antara 2 DLS (lupa suda set yg mana satu) d fuji atau helix blue d yu classic.2 helix lom penah dngar lgi n its cheaper ...
2 sound proof d pintu pasang 1 pintu or dekat2 tu speaker sja? myb lama lgi bru dpt pasang ni...baru2 ada mslh so terbang la duit bikin beli component cry (tecium bontot kereta orang...hehe)

klo cam 2 better jgn psang d A pillar dlu la...btul juga 2 kena balik2 adjust.nanti nyesal...hehe
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aiya, tercium bontot pula. sakit dompet. tail gating sana ka? atau main drifting? hehe. untuk harga tu, lebih baik kau survey dekat di forum lain untuk dapat 2nd hand punya. quality bagus dan murah, quality mmg terjamin kalau yg betul betul branded punya. biasanya org yg main SQ kurang blast, so speaker dan amp mmg ok. baru baru saja ada org jual focal polykevlar 3 way untuk rm1400 saja, murah gila dan condition bagus. aku punya barang semua pun 2nd hand kecuali amp helix tu. Very Happy yg penting tu, result dan kecantikan bunyinya. ambil yg baru ada warranty la, tapi apa gunanya? mmg branded jarang rosak, sekelip mata saja, warranty dah luput. org yg jual 2nd hand sudah pasti barang tu working and in good cond.
pasal soundproof, mmg buat seluruh pintu, minimum 2 layers. kalau pasang spacer, lebih baik balut spacer dengan soundproof juga, supaya mid tak gegar dan bass lebih mantap.
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owh mo dua lapis...klo g2 bek sa bersabar smpai ko balik KK dlu la...dngar dlu sound ko, minta tunjuk ajar bru buat keputusan...hehe sa pn ada juga cadang2 mo cari second hand...tpi mslhnya brand2 n model tu yg sa tdk tau...kena buat research dlu la. SQ style ICE - Page 4 980600

psal tercium bontot 2, psal 2 org brenti d roundbout ngam2 time 2 sa tngah tngok kanan trus dia brnti.hehe kuyak lor...hehe
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ok la, bro, ko tunggu bila aku balik, boleh meet up dan bincang2 sikit. Smile mungkin aku akan bawa balik 1 comp set dan jual, tak pasti dulu, mau tengok luggage muat atau tidak. ko boleh kumpul budget dulu, hehe. Smile boleh bagi contact number?
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my number 0-1-9-8-4-3-0-3-6-7
ya btul2...mo kumpul budget dlu...component set pa ko mo bwa balik bro? yg mantap punya ka?hehe
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tengok la, mungkin bawa set yg lebih kurang rm1k. terlalu hi tiada org mau nanti, ko boleh beritahu budget ko agak berapa, then i cari cari la. Smile
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sa pnya amp 4 chanel 60watt rms sja...klo mid yg 100watt rms buli ka 2?tpi nda juga memblast ba...memblast pn yg sndiri sakit tlinga sja paling2 pn...hehe klo 1K buli...over than tat klo kedai sa pkai card slalunya...klo da yg ko nmpak best ko kestau dlu la arga...sa bleh ready duit. Very Happy jn la smpai 2K...
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kalau amp 60w boleh ambil set 80-100w rms. kalau ko guna 4ch, cuba bridge dia la. so, bajet lebih kurang 1.5k la, kalau gitu, banyak choice. saya ada satu cadangan, kalau ko mau, i boleh jual DLS nobelium aku for 1.5k. kalau gitu lebih senang untuk aku buat selection untuk bajet aku sendiri. kalau tak mau DLS, then i cuba cari yg lain untuk u la.
P/S: semua barangan 2nd hand Smile jangan kata nanti aku tipu ko. haha.
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hehe...sa fikir2 dlu la cmna...dngar2 dlu...klo bridge buli la...tpi sa mo main 4 speaker dlm kereta.macam sround sikit...hehe padahal 1 component sja suda ribu2...klo dua lagi la...haha
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kalau main SQ tak payak 2 set component. sebab set belakang akan kacau staging kat depan. macam dengar vocal dari belakang, ni tak bagus utk SQ. kalau betul betul mau, tu amp bridge untuk depan belakang guna cap ayam set dan power dari HU. gitu lebih baik dan sesuai untuk dompet, hehe. Smile untuk dapat SQ yg baik, HU memainkan peranan yg penting, so the next upgrade will be HU, lepas tu, amp, sub dan monoblock.
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yesh...hehe memang 2 la juga target skrg ni...masi lom jumpa HU panel tuk kereta sa...so for the time being guna la pa yg ada...so hve 2 use hi lo la...n preamp...hopfly lepas tukar mid tiada kuat sngat bunyi noise.skrg ni speaker stendet tiada la dngar sangat 2 bunyi ssssSSSSS...hehe myb klo sda tukar HU teda suda 2 bunyi ular.
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guna hi lo dan pre amp mmg akan selalu ada noise. kalau tukar mid pun tak berkesan juga, tu HU mesti tukar dulu. kalau tak dapat cari panel, install kat glove compartment saja la. lebih baik beli HU dulu sebelum beli mid.
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u mean laci depan passenger side 2? punya la susa adjust volume 2...wuhuhu klo mo pkai remote pn kena buka 2 compartmen.klo ada penumpang susa la 2...hehe
tpi bgus juga idea 2.macam kereta dlm overhaulin 2...hehe HU dorg nmpak stendet...ada ba sa nmpak dkat mudah RM450...tpi risau2 mo beli...mnatau kena tipu.

HU mna yg bagus...ada 3 preout ka 2 preout?klo mengikut pa yg u kstau, main 1 component sja depan, 2 rca suda ckup la kn?
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ya 2 RCA cukup kalau main passive, 1 RCA ke depan dan 1 RCA ke sub. rm450 untuk HU? tu tak boleh main SQ la. minimum mesti lebih kurang 1k untuk, manalah ko beli component 1.5k pair sama HU 450? macam mercedes benz guna enjin perodua. aku kenal satu org di KK jual alpine 9887 untuk rm1288, baru punya. lebih baik guna bajet ko tu yg macam ko ckp rm2k untuk beli tu HU. then guna baki tu beli comp set. remember 'rubbish in, rubbish out'. kalau ko guna speaker scanspeak atau focal Be yang harga beribu ribu dan pair sama HU rm450, bunyinya pun macam 450 juga. kalau main mid end, semua guna brg mid end la, jgn satu hi end dan satu cap ayam, rosak saja bunyi tu. macam cap ayam 2ch amp aku guna untuk sub, mmg boleh rasa something is not right.
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bukn la bro...RM450 untuk HU panel only la...hehe yg tmpat lekat 2 HU tu...hehe as long as i dont hve tat thing, i cant change my stock HU What a Face
ndakan la juga sa mo beli HU g2 tpi main yg bgus pnya component kn jelir
sebab sini ada 1 dvd touch screen pioneer (lupa suda model apa) cuma ada 2 preout sja la.tpi ndatau brapa volt preout 2.arga dlm 1.2K g2. wa 2 alpine 9887 memang antara yg d idamkan 2.mna tmpat 2 bro?
so bayangkan klo sa beli 2 HU panel + alpine 9887 = RM1.6K juga owh cry
btw pa 2 passive?
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oh, i salah faham la tu, haha. sori ya. 450 for HU panel mahal juga tu. tu 9887 bukan di kedai car audio, dia buka car detailing centre dekat cempaka square. dia jual barangan alpine dan some pioneer sbg part time saja ba..
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nampak box hitam tu? itu passive crossover. kami panggil passive saja la. active system tak guna passive tu. terus dari amp pergi speaker. x-over set di HU atau external electronic crossover. passive system guna tu passive crossover la, tak boleh main main sama frequency dia macam di active system.
pioneer dvd player baru 1.2k? touch screen lagi? cuba ko search modelnya di google, kalau tiada, maksudnya tiruan.
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owh macam 2 pula...sa pula pngil 2 bnda crossover sja..hehe
so tweeter dn mid direct p amp la kn...so 4 chanl amp 2 ngam2 untuk 1 component set sja la 2?dasat2...btul ka klo pkai crossover 2 bunyi ada yg kurang suda?

2 la merisaukn hati 2 HU...nanti sa cek model nya...cuma ada 1 sja d kedai 2...hehe taupn model lama or yg gelap punya...hehe

pioneer latest HU PIONEER DEX-P99RS
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arga estimated around RM4K
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