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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime19/5/2009, 8:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime20/4/2010, 3:31 pm

oya sound east bah...haha...ever think 2 build on ur own using epoxy + some fiber/clothes?hehe sya suka DIY nanti mo test buat.

CK 15W 1.3K good deal?wish it is 18W SQ style ICE - Page 38 337891
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime20/4/2010, 4:33 pm

power, mana ada aku punya tuning kaw2, masih sedang belajar. tapi my listening taste tak sama dengan ko, maybe u muntah sama sistem aku, haha.

final, cuba ko offer 1.5k utk set tu tanpa crossover. 15W + XT25 quite a nice match. 1.3k for 15W is standard price. remember 15W mo buat sealed box la.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime20/4/2010, 4:54 pm

finalazy84 wrote:
oya sound east bah...haha...ever think 2 build on ur own using epoxy + some fiber/clothes?hehe sya suka DIY nanti mo test buat.

haha memang aku mau test buat tu nanti..baru puas hati..

hehe ko tu bah ck..aku tau bah ko tu..memang power..
mau tunggu c final punya sistem lg ni siap baru pawn(kasi kalah) dia punya scanspeak+alpine system hehe..gurau ja final, tp kalau c ck tolong ko tune nda dpt lwn la kali haha..
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime20/4/2010, 5:36 pm

haha...ko ni mo pawn newbie cmna juga...hehe
2 pn lom tntu jadi lgi ni deal...hehe baru nego2.

sya da tnya org yg slalu urus jual beli online (import).da ckp slalunya brg electronic teda kena tax.unless over 500USD dn tngok nasib juga.klo kena tax kena settle d post office bru dorg kasi kluar 2 brg la (5-10%).so no need p kastam la.baru sa perasan madisound jual per piece pula.ingat per pair...hehehe
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hehe teda bah..just play play bah hehe..

oic..good info..sbb aku pun lum pernah order brg dari luar SQ style ICE - Page 38 413832


hmmmm i wonder, where's andrew..lama suda tidak masuk forum ni
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busy kali c andrew...hehe

planing 2 buy some cables later...sa pnya wiring ni nda syok.huhu
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rilex, kumpul dulu stuff ko smua..bru cable..aku pun baru mau tukar cable ni..dpt phoenix gold rca 4 biji 5m kali tu rm500, speaker n power cable pun mo tukar skali kalau cukup budget

yala, kali diam2 dia upgrade tu
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ya bah, tak tau dia hilang mana tu. skrg tinggal 3 of us onli la. paling kuat ni final, since the 1st page kalau tak silap sampai skrg. respect Smile
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hehe...itu future planing bah.ada meh sya d first page?CK ba paling kuat.thread starter lgi...hehe

edit:ada pula sa d first page...haha noob just join SQ tat time.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime21/4/2010, 12:12 am

at first when i start this thread i really thought nobody is interested. most of the forummers here are into SPL. mostly misunderstood SQ thinking dat it is a system dat can't play loud. Smile but now, it's slowly catching up. at least my effort not put into waste, haha.
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hehe...dlu sa pn fkir macam 2.skrg baru tau SQ pn buli play loud.cuma u keep it for urself sja...hehe bukn untuk 1 kampung...hehe

edy deal wif the guy 1.6K.tweet n mid.means the tweet cost RM300 only la.hehe
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congrats bro. mantap sudah ko. 1600 including shipping ka?
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tdk...huhu shiping RM50.itu anggaran untuk 5kg la
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nice final. dats a gud buy. think u wun regret it. can't wait to listen to ur system. Smile have to prepare at least 1k to install those. 500 for A pillar, dun use the double tape ones, sure cannot tahan one. remember the tweeter onli meant for on axis installation. the mid oso have to angle for better midrange response. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime21/4/2010, 6:46 pm

hehe, dpt ja sa psang ja dlu kampung2.pkai blue tac SQ style ICE - Page 38 900701
later ada duit baru psang properly.

time alignment ada fungsi untuk supaya bunyi woofer tdk rasa d blakang ka?
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wow...punya syok ni org DIY kereta dia...love the pods n carbon fiber sticker

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 38 Icon_minitime21/4/2010, 8:30 pm

ada kesan juga tapi not so obvious. first of all crossover mesti match dulu then ur phase baru sampai TA. my sub TA set to 0.
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mksud sya TA untuk mid.let say TA depan cuma beberapa centimeter sja kena adjust.so klo kira speaker paling jauh masih woofer.myb 2 mid sa set jauh sikit la TA dia kn?
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technically it's correct. mo tengok juga gain matching dia. i usually tune with my ears. the sub itself oso plays a role. if not why ppl buy transparent sounding sub.
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haha..TA ni susah sikit..tune2 nanti dpt sound di tengah tp sebanarnya reflection dari mana2 ntah tu..tu yg prob sikit..

oh sub aku ada tune juga..400cm haha..ni ikut dari auto ta tu, yg lain aku tune sndiri.

final, cuba ni tuk contoh..tweeter kanan (driver seat) set sedia 100, then tweeter kiri kena lagi tinggi..cari sampai balance betul di tengah..eg range antara 120-130..kalau betul nda dpt tune suda baru ko kacau tweeter kanan tu..kasi rendah sikit sampai balance.

tp sebenarnya tune mid dulu baru tweeter..tp aku try explain tweeter ja la sbb penting n sama ja konsepnya.

kalau sudah, test dia, baru fine tune lagi..then test tuk beberapa hari pakai berjenis2 lagu..pastikan kebanyakan lagu tu suara di tengah (memang ada lagu yg akan lari TA, jgn risau, biasa la tu) .tapi bukan semua sound di tengah aa, tu macam sound mono suda tu, bunyi nda natural n macam tersumbat..so, pastikan musical instruments lain masih kedengaran dengan seimbang dari kedua2 tweeter, cuma suara ja di tengah..

kdg2 kalau set telampau tinggi TA di sebelah, (contoh.. tweeter kiri 160, tweeter kanan 100) sound yang di kiri tu pandai jadi kuat, so nda seimbang suda sama tweeter kanan ko..

--kalau ko suda tune TA, last challenge is tune TA pakai CD tag mcLaren track no.9 , pastikan first drum stroke n rolling tu ada 'terasa' sikit dari kiri ke kanan..bukan dari tengah ke kanan n yg paling teruk kanan ke kanan haha..--

(sifu aku suruh pasang baby cap tuk HU for more stable TA..)

aku pun masih lagi practice for the perfect TA..gud luck SQ style ICE - Page 38 360220
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i find it is dificult to tune the TA.hehe cos if set the left speaker (furthers speakr) to about 50CM and the right one (nearest) about 60-80CM i'll b getting a same result wif 150CM left and 180CM right.myb 250 and 280 also sound right.(the music on the steering wheel).but i forgot the sub SQ style ICE - Page 38 900701 sub paling jauh actly.but bcos it plays low it is not tat noticeable.

i'll try to experiment it later.

tweeter macam mna adjust TA?same wif the mid?or the mids shud have more delay than the tweet?or watever sounds good wif us?hehe

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haha...eh terbalik suda ko tu..nearest speaker will be less cm....ya memang g2, 60cm maybe akan sama macam sound 150cm nanti..then cuba ni..set 0cm semua..then try tekan kasi naik delay tu berterusan, ada rasa bunyi dari bawah ke atas?then dia akan berulang lagi tu, dari bawah ke atas..cari yang match betul2 ngan semua speaker..thats whay aku bagi clue start dari 100cm tuk tweeter driver seat..satu lagi, tp ni bukan technical la n memang contradict ngan technical TA measurement.. tp ni pasal feel n ramai org yg suda ckp..tuk vocal tu, macam ada penyanyi sedang menyanyi jauh di depan..kalau telampau banyak cm nanti telampau jauh..kalau telampau sikit cm suara macam btl2 dekat ngan kita, so nda real la.

ya, sudah semestinya mid bass lagi jauh dari tweeter SQ style ICE - Page 38 360220 give u the clue..if ur right tweeter starts from 100cm, then try ur right midbass from 115-125cm..
kereta kita nda sama, speaker placement pun lain, so aku bagi dlm range gitu la, so ko bleh adjust2..
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orite...hehe lom ada tweeter so masih lom ada pngalaman...haha
lom gaji ba power.huhu lom dpt deal.hopfly 2moro la ni.
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hehe, palan palan bah..karang sistem ko siap n properly tuned..bleh beat suda sistem aku ni.. SQ style ICE - Page 38 360220 looking forward for ur new speakers..
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dun worry too much abt the number. it doesn't help in tuning. try to tune using ur ears. without TA, ur sound focus shud be around the middle. TA is to fine tune it. when tuning TA for tweeter, mute the rest of the channel till u get centre imaging. do the same for the mid. leave the sub at 0. and try doing it onli at 1 side i.e. TA onli left speakers.
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