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    Perbezaan 4g63 VR4 & Evo

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    http://i38.servimg.com/u/f3 Perbezaan 4g63 VR4 & Evo

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    Red Valve Cover engines, these are not EVO's , these are the Galant
    VR4 engines , they are similar to the 1G engines in the US , but there
    are some diffrences, VR4's have a 3 versions , VR4 200, VR4 220 , VR4
    240 . The diffrence ? the VR4 200 and 220 comes with 450cc injectors
    and they have a td05 14b , Intake manifold for 200 and 220 is a Cyclone
    , VR4 240 is also called VR4RS from the E39A body , it has 510cc
    injectors , the healthiest vr4 engine to buy is the 4g63 VR4rs auto
    which comes with the td05 14b. vr4rs manual has td05 16g and a bigger
    intercooler. And if you notice properly on the VR4 200,220 doesnt have
    a diamond logo on its rocker cover, only the VR4RS and the evos have
    it. How do u diffrenciate a EVO 1,2 and 3 , its pretty simple, 3 ways ,
    ECU , PISTON CODE , CHASSIS CODE and extra wirings at the firewall.

    Here are the pictures of the intakes & rocker covers

    VR4RS ECi MULTI Intake (Big Port)



    VR4 200,220 Cyclone Intake Manifold(Big Port) , VR4 200 Doesnt have the word "Intercooler" on it.



    EVO I,II,III Intake Manifolds are all the same and so are the TB's


    Heres the evo engine , this is a evo III , there is a vacuum grey cylinder on the firewall , its only on the EVO III's


    All EVO's have 609 Air Flow Sensors


    Intercoolers , the vr4's and evo's do not have same intercoolers.
    The Vr4 200,200 has a smaller one compared to the VR4RS , the Vr4rs are
    smaller than the EVO 123, EVO 456 & 678 are totally diffrent.

    VR4RS Intercooler


    EVO 1,2,3 Intercooler



    Exhaust Manifold

    EVO Above , VR4 Below



    Turbo's

    VR4RS and EVO1 has the same td05 small 16g while the evo2 has the td05 big 16g.
    EVO III is a diffrent species. Somethings that I have experimented ,
    the EVO 4-9 stock exhaust manifold will fit the 1g,2g 4G63 head , you
    can use their TD05HR , but the problem is the clearance issue with the
    alternator if its fitted in a DSM or EVO 1-3. Another engine is the RVR
    , RVR has a 4g63 with td04HL , i guess td04HL is not that common in US
    . td04HL is twin fin turbo and the turbine housing is nearly the size
    of the 14b 6cm housing. The o2 housing of a the td05 14b will fit the
    td04hl without mods.

    EVO III Turbo


    Vr4 Turbo



    ECU's

    as for Ecu's , all the evo's have different ecu's and mappings , the
    evo3 has less timing in it due to high compression. Don't get fooled by
    ecu's such as Mines and Ralliart, they are not worth it compared to
    your DSMLink. All evo ecu's have EPROM on it. But of course DSMlink
    isn't compatible with it.

    vr4 200hp ECU 8618
    vr4 220hp ECU 8618
    vr4 240hp ECU 5818
    E1 - 7701
    E2 - 2468
    E3 - 2364

    Chassis Code:

    EVO 1 --CD9A-SNGF
    EVO 2 - CE9A-SNGF
    EVO 3 - CE9A-SNGF


    Injectors

    Injector wise, guys, don't argue , we have few thousand cars over here, we cant be lying ,
    VR4 200,220 Cyclones have 450cc injectors , VR4RS , Evo 1,2,3 have
    yellow 510cc injectors , EVO 6-8 have 560cc injectors , another easy
    upgrade is the RX7 denso injectors, they are 550cc. There are many
    people who do think the EVO3 has a 560cc injectors, it doesn't. 450cc
    VR4 injectors are blue in colour. 560cc injectors do have 560cc written
    beside their injectors. Physically , look at the injector nozzle of the
    510cc Yellow injector, if it has twin nozzles its a evo, if its a
    single spray patern its the Vr4rs

    Drivetrain
    VR4 gb's have the weakest 1st gear (this was even stated in Jack Transmissions)
    EVO 1-3 have close ratio gearboxes. Cars that run 2wd over here usually
    go through a process where we throw away the extra gears & parts in
    the GB since we want to run 2wd only. EVO III comes stock with LSD at
    the rear.

    Lately I opened up my evo III gb, it had something different in it,
    rather than the normal coupling, mine had one with an engrave which
    noted "Adelia Magic" , the picture is below, I contacted that Japanese
    company through email, what they have mentioned is that , the allen
    bolts can be removed from the coupling, there are two pieces of clutch
    inside and some adjustments can be made to it , these adjustments will
    determine the amount of torque i distribute between the rear and front
    wheels. Once the clutch inside it tends to slip, it will then feed the
    rear wheels. How true it is ? I am yet to find out.

    Gearboxes codes
    W5M33-2-NGRE Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc) ?
    W5M33-2-NNZT Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 ?
    W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94 ?
    W5M33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96 ?
    W5M33-2-NQBE Libero/Lancer Gsr, non lsd version of NRWE No 3.545
    W5M33-2-NQBK 1991-92 to 4/92 VR4/ZR4 Galant ?
    W5M33-2-NQBM 1992 Galant to 5/92 ?
    W5M33-2-NRBE 92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd No 3.545
    W5M33-2-NRWE 92-95 Lancer GSR
    W5M33-2-NRXD 1990 Cyborg No 3.545
    W5M33-2-UPFE Evo3 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
    W5M33-2-UPGE Evo3 GSR non LSD No 3.909
    W5M33-2-UPWE Evo3 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909
    W5M33-2-UPYE Evo3 RS non LSD No 3.909
    W5M33-2-WPFE Evo2 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
    W5M33-2-WPGE Evo2 GSR non LSD No 3.909
    W5M33-2-WPVF Galant VR4 E84A ?
    W5M33-2-WPWE Evo2 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909
    W5M33-2-WPYE Evo2 RS non LSD No 3.909
    W5M33-2-WQFE Evo1 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
    W5M33-2-WQFK Galant VR4 evo ? ?
    W5M33-2-WQGE Evo1 GSR non LSD No 3.909
    W5M33-2-WQNK VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? No 3.909
    W5M33-2-WQWE Evo1 GSR (and RS?) with front LSD Yes 3.909
    W5M33-2-WQYE Evo1 RS non LSD No 3.909
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    Post on 27/11/2008, 4:15 pm by ProjectD

    ada cip...kalau tmpt duduk masuk injin evo pun x ubah..tp besa or ckp ubah mounting tuh maksudnya ubah bracket la tue(potong smbg,pusing sana sini)...heheh2...

    Post on 28/11/2008, 3:23 am by PerdVr4

    tony84 wrote:
    PerdVr4 wrote:
    tony84 wrote:
    PerdVr4 wrote:masalahnya ruang jak.. muat ka tidak... Suspect

    of coz muat...tp sempit jah pas pasang....kos supercas saya rasa mahal drpd turbo...fikir2 dulu lah.....kuat jugak NA skrg???


    NA skrg.. ermm berat tul baa kereta aku joo.. rim saja mau berapa tan hehe (cap ayam)... sukur2 jak laa bawa beli2 sayur..

    klu korner agi klu speed lebih 140 cam tu tidak grip udah makin jauh apa plak istilah tuh oversteer kaa understeer?? aaa. mcm tuh laa.
    fikir2 absorber agi nie...

    korang rasa mana tahan n berbaloi. Setakat ni aku udah jumpa GAB, Hotbits, ngan KW. harga lain2.. pendapat abang2 sekalian ??

    klu mau comfortable pakai Improve lah...KW sama Hotbits masi baru dlm pasaran...tp klu ko byk duit ko pakai TEIN lOL....hehe..kompom MAntap...

    Enjin ko memang NA ko ambik?? bkn turbo???

    yup,, memang NA udah sedia.. xda turbo.
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    Post on 17/12/2008, 5:21 am by adieka_8788

    ruang dia sempit la bro , dont ,leh muat ka engine 2 Suspect ,try jelah kn,power engin bro 2,,,,,,,, Very Happy
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    Post on 18/12/2008, 11:24 am by baby monster



    satria putih , mcm gan ni engine hehe
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    Post on 19/12/2008, 10:10 am by tony84

    adieka_8788 wrote:ruang dia sempit la bro , dont ,leh muat ka engine 2 Suspect ,try jelah kn,power engin bro 2,,,,,,,, Very Happy

    nothing is impossible....skrg dunia engineering...apa2 x mungkin jd tp bule jd...
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    Post on 19/12/2008, 10:26 am by bumbek



    ni engine cam penah nampak di Melvin jak nie.... mungkinlah. What a Face
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    Post on 28/8/2009, 1:32 pm by AP3_3927

    mau tnya sikit ni 4g63t kuat kar 4g63 rs???? mksd sy kalau sama2 standard.
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    Post on 28/8/2009, 2:20 pm by blugu

    4G63T RS bhp dlm 240, 4G63T biasa dlm 200-220bhp standard
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    Post on 7/9/2009, 6:27 am by napster

    ooo.. ada pula ni topic kena post...

    emm... bnyk nda paham... baca2 lu.. Suspect
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    Post on 9/9/2009, 7:38 pm by Red Bullet

    blugu wrote:4G63T RS bhp dlm 240, 4G63T biasa dlm 200-220bhp standard
    4g63 rvr brapa bhp?

    Post on 10/9/2009, 7:32 am by mivecdz

    280bhp bro...kalau upgrade sna cni lgi mgkin lebih lgi......
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    Post on 11/9/2009, 2:18 pm by AP3_3927




    adaka ni engine vr4rs????? n knapa ni xda airflow sensor????
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    Post on 11/9/2009, 3:18 pm by AP3_3927

    xda silap sy enjin bro tony pun xda airflow sensor kan? 2 ari p service kereta sy nmpk kereta bro tony smpt jua p tingu2 enjin dia. hihi
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    Post on 11/9/2009, 4:11 pm by tony84

    AP3_3927 wrote:


    adaka ni engine vr4rs????? n knapa ni xda airflow sensor????

    dia xda air flow sensor sebab ecu dia suda tukar standalone ecu..macam microtech dan haltech...ia xpakai airflow sensor lg....direct suda...
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    Post on 11/9/2009, 4:12 pm by tony84

    AP3_3927 wrote:xda silap sy enjin bro tony pun xda airflow sensor kan? 2 ari p service kereta sy nmpk kereta bro tony smpt jua p tingu2 enjin dia. hihi

    itu air flow saya kena sorok suda lah....kekekeke
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    Post on 11/9/2009, 4:26 pm by AP3_3927

    so ini vr4rs kar ni?
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    Post on 12/9/2009, 3:31 am by tony84

    gambar itu evo 3 lah bro..
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    Post on 12/9/2009, 10:25 am by AP3_3927

    ooooooo~
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    Post on 17/9/2009, 5:42 pm by carlmc

    Nice thread...macam pernah baca..hehehe..
    munkin itu evo pakai MAF translator ka?
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    Post on 19/9/2009, 6:14 am by SlaveOptics

    Very good info as Wiki here man.... thanks for d effort and sharing!

    Post on 25/1/2012, 8:52 am by dewa9897

    brooooo... aku ada bli enjin 4g63... tp kod airflow 787.. pa punya bangsa enjin ku ni ah??? rvr kaa???
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    Post on 4/2/2012, 11:55 am by FAREL

    wou hebat@mantap ni bro..

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