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PostSubject: Perbezaan 4g63 VR4 & Evo   Perbezaan 4g63 VR4 & Evo - Page 2 Icon_minitime20/11/2008, 9:17 am

First topic message reminder :

Red Valve Cover engines, these are not EVO's , these are the Galant
VR4 engines , they are similar to the 1G engines in the US , but there
are some diffrences, VR4's have a 3 versions , VR4 200, VR4 220 , VR4
240 . The diffrence ? the VR4 200 and 220 comes with 450cc injectors
and they have a td05 14b , Intake manifold for 200 and 220 is a Cyclone
, VR4 240 is also called VR4RS from the E39A body , it has 510cc
injectors , the healthiest vr4 engine to buy is the 4g63 VR4rs auto
which comes with the td05 14b. vr4rs manual has td05 16g and a bigger
intercooler. And if you notice properly on the VR4 200,220 doesnt have
a diamond logo on its rocker cover, only the VR4RS and the evos have
it. How do u diffrenciate a EVO 1,2 and 3 , its pretty simple, 3 ways ,
ECU , PISTON CODE , CHASSIS CODE and extra wirings at the firewall.

Here are the pictures of the intakes & rocker covers

VR4RS ECi MULTI Intake (Big Port)
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VR4 200,220 Cyclone Intake Manifold(Big Port) , VR4 200 Doesnt have the word "Intercooler" on it.
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EVO I,II,III Intake Manifolds are all the same and so are the TB's
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Heres the evo engine , this is a evo III , there is a vacuum grey cylinder on the firewall , its only on the EVO III's
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All EVO's have 609 Air Flow Sensors
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Intercoolers , the vr4's and evo's do not have same intercoolers.
The Vr4 200,200 has a smaller one compared to the VR4RS , the Vr4rs are
smaller than the EVO 123, EVO 456 & 678 are totally diffrent.

VR4RS Intercooler
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EVO 1,2,3 Intercooler
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Exhaust Manifold

EVO Above , VR4 Below
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Turbo's

VR4RS and EVO1 has the same td05 small 16g while the evo2 has the td05 big 16g.
EVO III is a diffrent species. Somethings that I have experimented ,
the EVO 4-9 stock exhaust manifold will fit the 1g,2g 4G63 head , you
can use their TD05HR , but the problem is the clearance issue with the
alternator if its fitted in a DSM or EVO 1-3. Another engine is the RVR
, RVR has a 4g63 with td04HL , i guess td04HL is not that common in US
. td04HL is twin fin turbo and the turbine housing is nearly the size
of the 14b 6cm housing. The o2 housing of a the td05 14b will fit the
td04hl without mods.

EVO III Turbo
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Vr4 Turbo
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ECU's

as for Ecu's , all the evo's have different ecu's and mappings , the
evo3 has less timing in it due to high compression. Don't get fooled by
ecu's such as Mines and Ralliart, they are not worth it compared to
your DSMLink. All evo ecu's have EPROM on it. But of course DSMlink
isn't compatible with it.

vr4 200hp ECU 8618
vr4 220hp ECU 8618
vr4 240hp ECU 5818
E1 - 7701
E2 - 2468
E3 - 2364

Chassis Code:

EVO 1 --CD9A-SNGF
EVO 2 - CE9A-SNGF
EVO 3 - CE9A-SNGF


Injectors

Injector wise, guys, don't argue , we have few thousand cars over here, we cant be lying ,
VR4 200,220 Cyclones have 450cc injectors , VR4RS , Evo 1,2,3 have
yellow 510cc injectors , EVO 6-8 have 560cc injectors , another easy
upgrade is the RX7 denso injectors, they are 550cc. There are many
people who do think the EVO3 has a 560cc injectors, it doesn't. 450cc
VR4 injectors are blue in colour. 560cc injectors do have 560cc written
beside their injectors. Physically , look at the injector nozzle of the
510cc Yellow injector, if it has twin nozzles its a evo, if its a
single spray patern its the Vr4rs

Drivetrain
VR4 gb's have the weakest 1st gear (this was even stated in Jack Transmissions)
EVO 1-3 have close ratio gearboxes. Cars that run 2wd over here usually
go through a process where we throw away the extra gears & parts in
the GB since we want to run 2wd only. EVO III comes stock with LSD at
the rear.

Lately I opened up my evo III gb, it had something different in it,
rather than the normal coupling, mine had one with an engrave which
noted "Adelia Magic" , the picture is below, I contacted that Japanese
company through email, what they have mentioned is that , the allen
bolts can be removed from the coupling, there are two pieces of clutch
inside and some adjustments can be made to it , these adjustments will
determine the amount of torque i distribute between the rear and front
wheels. Once the clutch inside it tends to slip, it will then feed the
rear wheels. How true it is ? I am yet to find out.

Gearboxes codes
W5M33-2-NGRE Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc) ?
W5M33-2-NNZT Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 ?
W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94 ?
W5M33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96 ?
W5M33-2-NQBE Libero/Lancer Gsr, non lsd version of NRWE No 3.545
W5M33-2-NQBK 1991-92 to 4/92 VR4/ZR4 Galant ?
W5M33-2-NQBM 1992 Galant to 5/92 ?
W5M33-2-NRBE 92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd No 3.545
W5M33-2-NRWE 92-95 Lancer GSR
W5M33-2-NRXD 1990 Cyborg No 3.545
W5M33-2-UPFE Evo3 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-UPGE Evo3 GSR non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-UPWE Evo3 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-UPYE Evo3 RS non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WPFE Evo2 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WPGE Evo2 GSR non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WPVF Galant VR4 E84A ?
W5M33-2-WPWE Evo2 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WPYE Evo2 RS non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WQFE Evo1 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WQFK Galant VR4 evo ? ?
W5M33-2-WQGE Evo1 GSR non LSD No 3.909
W5M33-2-WQNK VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? No 3.909
W5M33-2-WQWE Evo1 GSR (and RS?) with front LSD Yes 3.909
W5M33-2-WQYE Evo1 RS non LSD No 3.909
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ada cip...kalau tmpt duduk masuk injin evo pun x ubah..tp besa or ckp ubah mounting tuh maksudnya ubah bracket la tue(potong smbg,pusing sana sini)...heheh2...
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tony84 wrote:
PerdVr4 wrote:
tony84 wrote:
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masalahnya ruang jak.. muat ka tidak... Suspect

of coz muat...tp sempit jah pas pasang....kos supercas saya rasa mahal drpd turbo...fikir2 dulu lah.....kuat jugak NA skrg???


NA skrg.. ermm berat tul baa kereta aku joo.. rim saja mau berapa tan hehe (cap ayam)... sukur2 jak laa bawa beli2 sayur..

klu korner agi klu speed lebih 140 cam tu tidak grip udah makin jauh apa plak istilah tuh oversteer kaa understeer?? aaa. mcm tuh laa.
fikir2 absorber agi nie...

korang rasa mana tahan n berbaloi. Setakat ni aku udah jumpa GAB, Hotbits, ngan KW. harga lain2.. pendapat abang2 sekalian ??

klu mau comfortable pakai Improve lah...KW sama Hotbits masi baru dlm pasaran...tp klu ko byk duit ko pakai TEIN lOL....hehe..kompom MAntap...

Enjin ko memang NA ko ambik?? bkn turbo???

yup,, memang NA udah sedia.. xda turbo.
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ruang dia sempit la bro , dont ,leh muat ka engine 2 Suspect ,try jelah kn,power engin bro 2,,,,,,,, Very Happy
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satria putih , mcm gan ni engine hehe
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adieka_8788 wrote:
ruang dia sempit la bro , dont ,leh muat ka engine 2 Suspect ,try jelah kn,power engin bro 2,,,,,,,, Very Happy

nothing is impossible....skrg dunia engineering...apa2 x mungkin jd tp bule jd...
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ni engine cam penah nampak di Melvin jak nie.... mungkinlah. What a Face
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mau tnya sikit ni 4g63t kuat kar 4g63 rs???? mksd sy kalau sama2 standard.
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4G63T RS bhp dlm 240, 4G63T biasa dlm 200-220bhp standard
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ooo.. ada pula ni topic kena post...

emm... bnyk nda paham... baca2 lu.. Suspect
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blugu wrote:
4G63T RS bhp dlm 240, 4G63T biasa dlm 200-220bhp standard
4g63 rvr brapa bhp?
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280bhp bro...kalau upgrade sna cni lgi mgkin lebih lgi......
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adaka ni engine vr4rs????? n knapa ni xda airflow sensor????
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xda silap sy enjin bro tony pun xda airflow sensor kan? 2 ari p service kereta sy nmpk kereta bro tony smpt jua p tingu2 enjin dia. hihi
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AP3_3927 wrote:
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adaka ni engine vr4rs????? n knapa ni xda airflow sensor????

dia xda air flow sensor sebab ecu dia suda tukar standalone ecu..macam microtech dan haltech...ia xpakai airflow sensor lg....direct suda...
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AP3_3927 wrote:
xda silap sy enjin bro tony pun xda airflow sensor kan? 2 ari p service kereta sy nmpk kereta bro tony smpt jua p tingu2 enjin dia. hihi

itu air flow saya kena sorok suda lah....kekekeke
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so ini vr4rs kar ni?
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gambar itu evo 3 lah bro..
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ooooooo~
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Nice thread...macam pernah baca..hehehe..
munkin itu evo pakai MAF translator ka?
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Very good info as Wiki here man.... thanks for d effort and sharing!
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brooooo... aku ada bli enjin 4g63... tp kod airflow 787.. pa punya bangsa enjin ku ni ah??? rvr kaa???
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wou hebat@mantap ni bro..
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