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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime19/5/2009, 8:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime14/4/2010, 10:45 am

owh sory2...hehe

but how good is this system compare to others?let say focal k2p like zen selling or mbquart?song type?
susa mau buat decision...hehe or better if i wait n stock my budget until this end of the month?macam mau angkat trus ni comp speaker skrg pn ada...hehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime14/4/2010, 11:52 am

since it's neutral, it's suitable for most genres. hard to compare la. K2P has more kickbass and tweeter slighly bright. MB quite bright for my taste. Dyns smoother but require more power in order to play well. at least 100w or more for the midbass. Among these 3, i will take 342 for its selling price, new set cost almost 3k.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime14/4/2010, 12:09 pm

wow...cool...m more poisoned SQ style ICE - Page 36 670947
asking him now on the RM price and shipping.
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it's poisonous, but then prepare some money to get some really gud amp to show its full potential, in fact any gud speaker need gud amp. Smile at the meantime, it will blast ur stock system far far away d IF u managed to get it. Smile
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yup i know...hehe usually I tell tat to people searching for subwoofer...hehe now m in tat situation SQ style ICE - Page 36 316558

how about hertz mile mlk165.this one no passive.1.5K at carhifi
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haha...how bout my mb at 1k? just promoting hehe
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aiya...npa juga rendah btul suda ko kasi turun 2 power?

I'm searching something tat can play vocal, instrumental (acoustic guitar), songs like scorpions and RNB.tpi memndngkan sya ta pnah dngar lgi ni system2 suma susa btul mo buat kputusan. SQ style ICE - Page 36 337891

itu dynaudio 2 org ckp 1270 tpi lom temasuk shipping.tatau klo da post dari sna ntah brapa la 2.mesti kena tax 2.
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remember my video of the P99? he is using MLK165 midbass. mantap juga tu. very punchy and suitable for free air installation. the tweeter usually ppl use other brands, the ori MLK tweet are just average if compared to those hi end ones. depends wat u wan la final, if u like to listen to all kinds of music, can't go wrong with dyns. if u like music with power and punch, MLK is gud for u. if u like super detail, MB might suit u. listen to rock and fast music, K2P will be a better choice. of cos have to match with the correct amp and tuning.

pasal shipping tu, ko boleh contact chankeong, dia boleh tolong ship dari JB. tak payah tax tapi chankeong will charge abt rm100 la, shipping cost will be about RM100 or so. u tanya tu seller dulu boleh ka dia ship dari JB to avoid tax. for rm1500 u can get a dynaudio 3 way, wat else can u ask more? haha. tu si krayden jual 2way pun mo hampir 2k lo.
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huhu...I think the neutral one suits me.the music i listen to always changing.dunno y nowdays i listen to scorpions and muse... SQ style ICE - Page 36 900701 later might change again.

I've asked the guy edy, waiting for him 2 reply.if shiping only cost about 300 then I'll put my finger cross till end of this month SQ style ICE - Page 36 900701

btw power, nanti sya iklan MB ko d skolah.da 2 sorg mo kasi poison...hehe
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hehe, tu MB kalau 1k sure dapat jual punya ba. dun worry power. i help u advertise in LYN. sana banyak newbies. final jadi king SQ di sekolah sudah? nanti ada juga gang SQ di sekolah. aku belum dapat cari lagi around me yg main SQ. semua pun kenal dari forum.
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sya baru jumpa sorg.tpi dia morning session.susa skit mau jumpa juga...hehe actly dia ada d sioloon but dunno still active or not.dia prnah tnya psal main SQ pkai surround punya.psang dvd.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime15/4/2010, 1:52 am

http://www.avtozvuk.com/az/2010/02/076.htm

try u translate using google, sure this is interesting for u. Smile
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haha....mls suda aku mau simpan speaker ni, bgus jual ja, bukan mau untung pun..asal dpt tambah duit tuk upgrade bulan 5 nanti ok la tu, bleh bli 2 amp terus...ok thanks guys..but 1k is not including shipping la..hehe..

btw the MB is more torawds vocal n jazz and anything that has less treble..rock n metal just ok la coz the tweeters are bright..need to tune it down a bit..my DLS can play all tunes with no issues haha (ya lor harga pun mhl juga) cuma ada tweeter punya natural frequency tu aku nda brapa suka..macam d EQed sikit..ntahla mungkin car audio ada philosophy sendiri berbeza dari equipment for musician in the studio.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   SQ style ICE - Page 36 Icon_minitime15/4/2010, 2:49 pm

myb better if u post some picts ba power...MBquart made in mna 2?USA ka?
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mb made in germany. tapi how true i tak tau la.

power, ko ada main tu EQ ka? kenapa cakap macam unnatural bunyi tweeter tu? is it there is a freq gap between the 2 speakers?
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ugh macam no respond from from tat dynaudio dude la...huhu
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then maybe u r not fated with that dynaudio, lol. juz PM him somemore till he put sold. bug him till he is scared. Smile juz need him to confirm whether he will ship from JB or not. if not, juz contact chankeong and discuss with him since u know wat is the price so u won't get cheated by anyone.
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seems like he is not on9.I've sent 2 PM edy...hohoho nvr mind la if not fated.myb fate wants me to stock more money ba...hehe lgipn other than shipping i want to see the pict oso.still cannot confirm lgi.

hopfly no cutting needed to mount this thing.i want to put it in stock condition SQ style ICE - Page 36 360220 seems like the door panel plastic cover is thick.hopfly can fit using thick baffle....huhu so grill prob shud b no more la SQ style ICE - Page 36 900701

normally how much is a 4ga power cable cost per meter?CK u use dist block kn?the fuse near battry how much ampere?
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fuse near battery is 80A. 4Ga cable depends which type. like stinger HPM from AC is rm50 per meter. cap ayam one at local shops is rm10-20 per meter, tapi dunno if it's true 4Ga la and the cable all oxydized and not pure copper. then Knukonceptz sendiri tengok di ebay, knu oso not pure copper but it compromises with more strands(oversized cables). better get 0Ga and distribute if can afford. next time no need upgrade anymore. unless u wan to stay 2 way then 4Ga will be enuf. my distro block is near the amp. 4Ga to 2x4Ga. got 1F capacitor before the amp.

P/S: gonna be away for few days. gud luck in ur purchase of the dyn.
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[quote="ckmoy007"]mb made in germany. tapi how true i tak tau la.

power, ko ada main tu EQ ka? kenapa cakap macam unnatural bunyi tweeter tu? is it there is a freq gap between the 2 speakers?[/quote

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ni kena clearly elaborated ni..my MB q is really made in germany..not like the newer MB quart which is rather ambiguous..which they said "engineered in germany" but according to trusted source they're made in china.

mine is premium PVF216 not PVI216, google for it..eventhough my speaker was made after maxxonics (not the very old MB quart which become German maestro now) acquired MB quart, but this model still made in germany..n its no longer in production, u can only find the PVI series.

pics ada di mudah ba..taip ja mb quart..ada tu aku punya

pasal eq ni mungkin aku tlampau biasa ngan equipment muzik n studio..lagi mahal n berkualiti lagi natural habis, langsung teda unsur2 eq sbb kita suda EQ tu sound di instrument kita dari effects2 tertentu..susah mau xplain ni..kdg2 bunyi treble dari speaker (set as flat) ada yg sssss, ssshhhh, sssoooh..so dia kena sama macam yg real instruments la..tu pun kena berbelas tahun berkecimpung hehe..

tula susah mau kc puas telinga aku ni..walaupun knowledge aku pasal lCE ni tidaklah sehebat kamu, tp aku tau bunyi yg btul2 bagus..
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hmmm...nda sa fhm bila kmu ckp psal EQ ni...huhu
mksudnya teda adjust apa2 d EQ la?
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hmmm...nda sa fhm bila kmu ckp psal EQ ni...huhu
mksudnya teda adjust apa2 d EQ la?

hehe senang ja tu final...kalau kita ingat dulu2 main sound msti mau set EQ bentuk 'V' kan tuk boost treble n bass..naa skrg kita main sq ni kebanyakannya bentuk ' --- ' flat ja..kalau ada pun di adjust sikit ja tuk compensate lost freq or reduce unwanted freq selepas kita tune crossover..

napa mau pakai flat EQ tu aaa?? soalan bagus..kita main SQ mau btl2 reproduce sound dari studio recording..so kalau kita telampau adjust tu EQ, nanti jadi double processed la..nda sama suda macam sound recording yang di studio..."ada faham?? ya faham cikguuuu" hehe...
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ini sendri soal sendri jawab ka?haha
klo untuk yg suda ada set yg hi end cam kamu boleh la.klo set cam sya ni confirm la tnggelam...haha

memang flat sja la itu EQ kn?cuma kasi up untuk kekurangan pada speaker 2 ja la kn?sbab evry speaker ni ada freq yg dia main dngn baik ada yg tdk.

power skrg ko guna amp apa untuk comp set ko?brapa RMS?bigger power = more clear sound ka?sbab sya bca review2 org kn, klo amp tdk ckup power, bunyi tdk clear.mksud sya ada bunyi yg tdk kluar/tdk dpt dngar.
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hehe ya la tu...ya kalau pakai speaker standard, rca standard, cable standard perlu juga d kacau2 tu EQ baru dpt soundnya..

alala..aku punya amp lauya ja bah..tunggu aku angkat audison la hehe...skrg pakai JBL GTO 75.4ii, 104w X 4@4ohm..ngam2 ja tuk mid bass tu..cuma HPF nya ada tajam sikit..tp ramai juga bah org pakai amp lagi lauya dari aku, tp sound lagi sedap dari sistem aku haha..(sebab aku nda dpt lawan HU p90 n p9 diorang)

ya btl tu..lg besar power lg bagus, ada banyak headroom tuk tu speaker (just be careful with the gain)..tp aku lum pernah xplore lg kalau pakai 2 ohm..\\apa amp ko skrg final..
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amp aku lagi lauya..hehe smpai loya ja tdk.amp mura ja pioneer 6400F.skrg bepikir ni klo angkat comp yg dasat2, amp pun mo minta duit juga...aiya

2 ohm?macam jarang sa nmpak mid 2ohm.focal ja la yg sa tau.kbnyakanya 4/8ohm
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