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PostSubject: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime30/7/2011, 8:07 am

First topic message reminder :

lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers
and have a nice day. Very Happy
WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome



What is SQ?

There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,transient response, and the list goes on and on.
SQ is a combination of all these technical factors as well as proper
speaker placement and proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.

From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime9/12/2011, 11:13 pm

Kalau high level punya speaker cable terus pg tweeter ada juga meh tu mo control dia punya xover guna tu 9887? HU punya power paling2 pun 20 W ja......jgn kasih blast sajalah....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime9/12/2011, 11:53 pm

i thought of the same thing with u too andreww..personally did not ever used the HU internal amplication, but i remembered i read somewhere b4 saying that the xover can only control the low level output, cant find back that reading anymore...
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime10/12/2011, 12:16 am

jd pa maksud dia hahaha..x bleh direcct tweeter?=.=

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime10/12/2011, 12:25 am

hehe..not really sure, but u can test ur mid direct to player first for testing purpose, try2 tukar slope, khz and level..if got difference, then the xover is working for HU direct speaker connection..at least ur mid x takut bakar ka tau hangus if compared to testing tweeter first..haha
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime10/12/2011, 1:35 am

aiyo...taaron, better u help him la...ScanD tu...klau burn syg woh...hehe tpi kn, shud can la...untuk sementara waktu sja.daripada teda kn...bgus ada la..hehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime10/12/2011, 8:05 am

Banyak bah amp murah sekarang yg oldddddddddddd schooooooooooollllllllll punya....pg tgk sana zth ada tu sony es baru rm300....atau kol 2 c PemalasGila tu...banyak dia jual alpine V12 lama2 punya baru RM200 pun ada....angkat ja bah trus pg drive to tweeter ko geeko...tia payah susah2...meragukan juga tu kalau mo guna high level output...sa pasti tada tu mo control over dia...hehehe....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime11/12/2011, 10:40 am

apa crita suda?
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kalau 9887 nda pasti la, kalau p80 ya, ada amp atau teda sama juga proses dari xover...should be ok la sbb bleh masuk menu xover kan, ndakan ada menu tp tdk functioning pula...anyway test2 dulu Smile hehe wow, high end owh c geeko...aku pakai ameron ja tp modded lvl 3 kahkah..kalah sound c andrew tu
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime11/12/2011, 7:50 pm

apa macam upgrade?
btw ada snow la...hehe

14hb ni ko d mna rudy?klau smpat sya snggah papar jln2.mnta tlong magic hand dn ear ko...hehe cityaudio sblah mna?
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Hehehehe....c Power....jgnlah bah banding2 ama sa ICELESS ja ni....terngiang2 juga di telinga zaman dulu2 masa ikut2 org TT...sekarang x da arapan sudah....no money no talk....teringin juga mo dengar system ko ni Final....ko tambus pg Bopotlah....ikut sipitang ko balik keningau....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime11/12/2011, 9:05 pm

wah dekatnya...hehe ada ipar sa tunang sna membakut tdi, tpi tdk dpt pegi, sakit pula sa tiba2...hehe si windu dari dulu smpai skrg blum psang sound dia lgi.teda mslh pun...hehe sytem sya tdk syok la...nma sja scanspeak, tpi helix si boi lagi best.hehe tuning hodoh ba.
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Hehehehe....bah apa macam ko juallah ama sa tu Scanpspeak ko tu? Lama udah sa teringin tu 70000 punya revalator tu.....tapi ndada duit.....macam?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime11/12/2011, 9:58 pm

nda la kali, itu mau smpan d ruma tu nanti...hehe
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime11/12/2011, 11:07 pm

hehe, main2 ja la final, menangis tu AC kalau aku minta dorang upgrade tu ameron lvl 3 punya mod..keke..org punya mcintosh sama scans pun basic atau lvl 2 ja kebanyakannya lol.

oh dtg la nanti..kol ja nanti aku pg ambil ko ka..kuikui adaka magic hand..pdahal hancus haha..ok bah ko tune tu

alala andrew..aku pun iceless la, pakai headphone ja macam org kebaru2an dlm kereta haha, tp aku pduli apa yg penting dpt dgr muzik..

hehe ya aku pun mau diy bookshelf pkai 15w n ring radiator, tp not too soon la, lama lagi

ni aku punya amp gut, compare with the images online n u'll notice the upgrade/mod done in this amp.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE V7   SQ style ICE V7 - Page 32 Icon_minitime12/12/2011, 10:19 pm

just now did some slight tuning, i reversed the right hand side tweeter polarity..felt something different,i kinda like it..lol..btw, any1 here reversed the right side tweeter polarity and seen better result with it?
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I think andrew did talk bout this b4...fogot dy...hehe later I test la...hehe how does it sounds? wider n further?I mean the right channel n if both left right playing.
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wider n further, felt no obvious change..felt certain peak in music is reduced (esp. right side), which actually indirectly improved imaging as the center stage doesn't sway much into my right side tweets...as u noticed, my right side tweets face directly to driver position and the nearest summore, the slight mechanical delay from reversed polarity could help somehow in my situation..

the above statement is based on left n right channel playing together..if i disable left channel n only listen to right channel, mmg x syok dy, the vocal can feel down there cos the right side mid too extreme off-axis until cant blend properly..if listen left n right ch 2gether, dun have this prob la..hehe..dunno la, maybe need to do independent L/R xover dy, will do later..
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can u post pic for ur sys taaron
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rudy: u can browse my album here.. might mislead u abit esp the dashboard pic, coz my current RR tweets are not installed yet when the pics were taken last time..the rest r still the same..can help u to visualize on the tweets positioning, both tweets placed on the far left and far right dashboard corners, sitting on the stock dashboard speaker grilles with blutack..both tweets facing driver's head, considered on-axis, if not just slight off-axis by few degree only..


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indepndent L/R xover?hehe come across my mind oso but never try it.might try it later.but prob is, the listening position is reli for driver ony la.

btw, I dont think theres any delay from reverse polarity.I realize if reverse on both tweeter, it sounds shallow.but different car has different efek...hehe y dont u try changing the tweeter position?aim higher on the right side, left side a little lower than the right side (both on axis).

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final: hehe..mmg gitu la main ice, most of d time tuned for driver only and passenger seat will sound s*c*..

tweeter positioning, worth to try oso in 1 day..last time did tried changing position, only moving left n right angle, top and bottom angle nvr tried b4..abit off-axis, i cannot accept dy, sound totally not the same..stubborn oso this RR tweets..
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hehe...of course la...got nipple mah...haha change to dome tweeter la.haha
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oic thanks for the post...which peerless sub model is that? i can see most of ur stuff reali hi-end one..pity me, iceless n the lowest end among all ( upss..onli the amp above is ok la hehe,)

ya lo..RR tweets great for on axis posi...wanted to hear the aircirc later..

no la, the passenger side must oso sounds great like they're listening to the normal passive sys & most of the sound still on the dash and only a bit sub sound from the back is allowable..it would be better if there is no sub sound coming from the back at the passenger side...not onli that, passenger at the back oso should hear an opened sound n perfectly balanced tweet,midrange & midbass...that indicates the mix (tuning)of the x over is matched perfectly...thats what i understand from my sifu xplanation n xperienced it myself in his & his customer cars. Smile hope that helps
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si krayden old sub, Peerless Resolution..mana ada hi end, suma brg2 pun considered so-so je...lol..jgn kau,heard u got chg speaker juga, where got lowest end..alpine "apa" status..hehe

siapa ada aircirc? i am very interested to hear the sound...

the thing about my car, 95% of all time satu org only which is the driver, if got many penumpang wan to folo my car, will use other car instead of mine...haha...my myvi got "NA lag" and x syok driving with penumpang lain, harsh ride summore, drive myself alone better..so, shud can consider doing selfish tuning to yield best result on my car..lols Wink
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na lag? awesome wei, my mazda also after adding 100kg of ice.

turbo car no such problem, 4 person naik bukit like flat road onli.
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