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blugu wrote:

tony84 wrote:

oooo...setting mcm mana?siapa bule setting....kira sa mau ambik kat titanium suda ni...

Ko bawa saja pergi workshop ah Tet, 1 jalan juga tuh pergi Titanium, ko jalan saja lurus lepas Titanium tuh, mmg tidak miss itu workshop. Drg nie biasa setting enjin mcm ko punya... hehehehe

Lepas setting rasa laa dia punya diffrent.. hehehehe

setting dia mcm pusing degree dia tu kan...yg penting ngam degree dia tu...bule setting sendiri....

tony84 wrote:

setting dia mcm pusing degree dia tu kan...yg penting ngam degree dia tu...bule setting sendiri....

Boleh.. pastikan yg ko ketatkan semua nat² ACP tuh sebelum pergi test run, ada kes member lupa kasi ketat, valve bercium dgn piston....

blugu wrote:

tony84 wrote:

setting dia mcm pusing degree dia tu kan...yg penting ngam degree dia tu...bule setting sendiri....

Boleh.. pastikan yg ko ketatkan semua nat² ACP tuh sebelum pergi test run, ada kes member lupa kasi ketat, valve bercium dgn piston....

hahahaha itu org cakap bodo sombong.. kasi org yg pakar laa setting kan senang.. elok kluar rm20 -30 setting dah kene kluar rm1 - 2 K... hahahahahaha

tony84 wrote:

tp mesti mau pakai high cam baru ada fungsi dia....standet cam mcm xda fungsi lah....klu wira lah..klu memang 4ag kah saya xpasti...

btl, sa sdh cuba di kancil turbo sa, mmg kena ganti semua yg racing cam dgn valve spring performance baru terasa ini barang, kalau takat ganti adjustable campulley jak x ganti racing cam dan lain mmg KOSONG.

Survey harga ACP branded nie, brapa yerk kalau di semenanjung, paling mahal - paling murah... apa kelebihannya?

pioneer_syntium wrote:

tony84 wrote:

tp mesti mau pakai high cam baru ada fungsi dia....standet cam mcm xda fungsi lah....klu wira lah..klu memang 4ag kah saya xpasti...

btl, sa sdh cuba di kancil turbo sa, mmg kena ganti semua yg racing cam dgn valve spring performance baru terasa ini barang, kalau takat ganti adjustable campulley jak x ganti racing cam dan lain mmg KOSONG.

brapa kali ko set? brapa degree suda yg ko adjust?

blugu wrote:

pioneer_syntium wrote:

tony84 wrote:

tp mesti mau pakai high cam baru ada fungsi dia....standet cam mcm xda fungsi lah....klu wira lah..klu memang 4ag kah saya xpasti...

btl, sa sdh cuba di kancil turbo sa, mmg kena ganti semua yg racing cam dgn valve spring performance baru terasa ini barang, kalau takat ganti adjustable campulley jak x ganti racing cam dan lain mmg KOSONG.

brapa kali ko set? brapa degree suda yg ko adjust?

kurang pasti sebab cip yg setkan smpi hangkang adjustable campulley tu.

Silap² ko dpt ACP yg rosak punya barangkali nie, bolt dia x dpt kasi ketat suda... kalau dsini, bukan alang2 member sy setting drg punya ACP, jimat minyak lg.... heran ooo

yup acp memang bleh edjas minyak jugak...

Oooo kalau di semenanjung harga ada pelbagai bro.. ada kedai jual murah ada yg mahal..

stakat ni yg aku serbay..

untuk 4g92 mivec laa sebab aku pakai mivec
Arospeed sebijik - RM170 - 180.. biasa diorg bleh kasi less jadi RM350 satu set
works engineering - biasa sebijik RM230 tapi tah mcm mana aku dapat hari satu set RM370.. hehehe

Wah.. Harganya berpatutan juga woo, tapi bukan semua org tahu pakai benda nie, ada yang prefer pakai surbo, cyclone la.. padahal tiada atau sikit effect dia dgn enjin nie.... mungkin kerana promotion dia tidak sehebat dgn surbo & cyclone nie.....

blugu wrote:

Wah.. Harganya berpatutan juga woo, tapi bukan semua org tahu pakai benda nie, ada yang prefer pakai surbo, cyclone la.. padahal tiada atau sikit effect dia dgn enjin nie.... mungkin kerana promotion dia tidak sehebat dgn surbo & cyclone nie.....

sesiapa yg dah masuk surbo, cyclone cuma tambah ACP niee. sure lagi mantap...

Muahahaha.... nanti salah info plak... org trip yg surbo/cyclone yg bawa diffrence, bukan ACP... hahahaha

ini sedikit info dari wira club...

adjustable cam pulley is only useful when u change to aftermarket cam with higher lift and longer duration profile.

the need of adjustable cam pulley is because with different cam profile, your valve opening duration also different than stock.
because your piston won't adjust itself to compensate the valve opening time.

because of the different opening duration, the amount of air and fuel injects into the combustion camber also with different amount.
and the ignition timing also won't change because your change your cam.

when u mess up your valve timing, u mess up every other thing.
the fuel may not deliver on time before the spark ignite. this will cause knocking and it will lead to engine detonation.

that's why after u install a "hi-cam", u need a adjustable campulley to optimized the valve opening timing to reduce the chance of "knocking".

stock cam and cam pulley already in a perfect timing and don't need u to mess it up.
so conclusion, save your money to buy a adjustable pulley after u get your cam.

Any another piece of advice that's free for u, please do read up things like how engine works.
it will help u alot in terms of engine modification.
because you will understand how each performance parts actually benefits for your engine.

not everything u buy and install will definitely give u good result.

itu terpulang pada masing2 punya pendapat.. so far siapa yg dah pasang tu ko bleh tanya laa sendiri apa feed bak diorg... hehehe ..

tepuk dada tanya poket, ada duit masuk tak de duit duk diam2.. hehehe

So far... feedback dr kawan2 yg menggunakan ACP nie, kebanyakannya positif... sy sendri lg yg naik, dan menjadi saksi sebelum & selepas memasang ACP nie...

dengan aku ada satu ni untuk honda civic engine d15b..brand onsoku..tapi tak tahulah nak pakai ke atau nak jual

bkan cincai c blugu ne...diam2 ubi brisi...

Camshaft Degreeing Procedures
NOTE: The zero marking on an adjustable camshaft gear is not always in
direct correlation with the camshaft centerline. Because of the
numerous variations in engine mechanics, including cylinder head
decking, cylinder block decking, camshaft size, etc., which play an
important role in overall camshaft timing, LCE recommends the following
in the initial set up of your new adjustable camshaft gear.


Basic Camshaft Gear Installation:
With the #1 cylinder at TDC (top dead center), remove the factory
timing gear from the camshaft. Be careful to not let the timing chain
fall below the timing chain cover.

Set the factory camshaft gear on a flat surface and place the
adjustable camshaft gear on top (make sure that the nuts on the
adjustable cam gear are loose first). Line up the camshaft dowel holes
on both gears. With the holes in the center hubs lined up, rotate the
outer gear of the adjustable camshaft gear to line up with the factory
teeth (make sure that the dowell holes on both center hubs still
match). Tighten the nuts on the adjustable cam gear and make a mark
(using a chisel) on the outer gear at the ?zero? mark of the adjustable
camshaft gear.

Install the adjustable camshaft gear onto the camshaft with the timing
chain and secure. You will now be able to advance or retard the
camshaft timing accordingly.


Advanced Camshaft Gear Installation:
We recommend the Intake Lobe Center Method to degree the camshaft. This
will achieve the most accurate settings available, resulting in the
best performance from your engine package.


Setup Procedures. Install the degree wheel on the crankshaft.
Using a stiff wire, form a pointer. Position it off of one of the 6mm
water pump bolts.

To set true piston TDC (top dead center) on the degree wheel with the
cylinder head installed. Rotate the crank shaft to position the #1
piston at BDC (bottom dead center). Install a piston stop, into the #1
cylinder spark plug hole and tighten. Loosen the cam bolt so the cam
gear can be pulled off the cam, but still supported on the bolt.
Carefully rotate the crankshaft clockwise until the piston touches the
piston stop. Read the degree wheel. Example 15° ATDC (after top dead
center). Rotate the crank counter clockwise until it reaches the piston
stop. Example 25° BTDC (before top dead center).

Move the wire pointer to split the difference of these two readings
(20°). The wheel should read the same at both sides of TDC at the
cylinder stop. If not, adjust the pointer until it is accurate. Remove
the piston stop and tighten the cam gear bolt to 60 ft lbs.

Using a 1" travel dial indicator with a magnetic base and fixture plate
position the indicator on the #1 intake valve retainer at the same
plane as the valve.


Cam Card Specifications. Review the cam card provided with
your camshaft. Find the intake center line the cam was ground on. If
not provided you can compute the center line by adding the intake
opening degrees at .050 valve lift to the intake close degrees at .050
valve lift plus 180° crank rotation. Divide this number by 2 and
subtract the smaller number. This is your intake center line of the cam
you are about to degree. Check every cam, they will differ from cam to
cam. Example:




Opens 13° + Closes 37° + 180° = 230°

230° ÷ 2 = 115°

115° - 13° = 102° Lobe Center

Note: Always rotate the crankshaft in the running rotation (clockwise
looking at the front of the engine). Never reverse crankshaft rotation
to achieve a reading when degreeing the camshaft.



Step 1: Find Valve Open @ .050 Lift. With your indicator on the
retainer and the rocker set at zero lash on the base circle, zero the
dial indicator. Rotate the crank until the indicator reads .050 valve
lift off base circle. Read the degree wheel and record. Example would
be 11° on the degree wheel BTDC.


Step 2: Find Valve Closes @ .050 Lift. Rotate the crankshaft
until the dial indicator reads .050 off the base circle (valve
closing). Read the degree wheel and record. Example 39° on the degree
wheel ABDC.


Step 3: Calculate Lobe Center. To figure the exact lobe center
add intake open number and intake close number plus 180°. Divide this
total by 2 and subtract the smaller number (usually the intake open
number). Example:


Intake open 11° + Intake close 39° + 180° = 230°

230° Duration ÷ 2 = 115°

115° - 11° = 104° Lobe Center

In our example your cam is currently set to a 104° Lobe Center. Compare
your actual findings with the information from your cam card and adjust
the cam accordingly.


Step 4: Adjusting The Camshaft. Loosen the three 10mm lock
nuts on the cam gear. Advance or retard the gear to achieve the proper
intake center line for your specific cam. Torque the nuts to 8 ft. lb.
And recheck your numbers to assure a proper setting.

Once indexed correctly, using a sharp small chisel, align with the zero
mark on the gear hub and make a reference mark on the outer gear for
future reference. You have now completed the degreeing process.


Calculating Duration: To calculate duration at .050 valve lift .
Add the degrees when the valve opens @ .050 to the degrees the valve
closes @ .050 plus 180°. Example:


Opens 11° + Closes 39° + 180° = 230° Duration @ .050 Valve Lift




Performance Tips

To change the performance of your engine, you can advance the cam to
achieve a lower RPM torque curve (bottom end power) or retard the cam
to achieve a higher RPM torque curve (top end power). Make small
adjustments and record your results. This way you can always refer back
to your previous settings.

Ignition timing and cam timing are not the same. Since the distributor
is turned by the camshaft, always recheck your ignition timing after
adjusting the cam timing.

Info from http://www.lcengineering.com/technotes/index.php?p=view&catid=6&id=82

Fuh caya laa blugu.. details...

blugu wrote:

^TeRRoRiSTz^ wrote:

member aku pakai 4g13 jer lepas pakai cam gears then setting cun-cun bleh tapau 4g15..... hahahaha

Muahaha... fakta inilah yang ditunggu² bro, ada lg?? hehehehe....
member sy kancil 850 pakai ACP nie, bleh tapau kenari membernya semasa 3rd gear. power oo!!

fuiyoohhh....
kuat oO itu kancil bley tapau kenari?....
kancil siapa tu?...
tapi memang betul...pandai set cun la larinya...x pandai set x telari la dia..

mr blugu ni memang terer ni....
aku pun blajar ngan dia ni...
tunjuk ajar ku Cfu...AyyaaAArrRRkkKKKKK....

yankee_november wrote:

mr blugu ni memang terer ni....
aku pun blajar ngan dia ni...
tunjuk ajar ku Cfu...AyyaaAArrRRkkKKKKK....

Muahahaha... setting ACP ba... apa lagi?? Kita projek ramai2, info suda ada.. tinggal cari ACP lagi...

bah..apa lg....saya pok titanium punya hks oooooo...rm1100...wahsei.....
kaw kaw...

kalau lepas pasang acp ni bleh tapau kereta lain tidak mau la...org mau tapau mee goreng jak...hehehehehe